On July 10 2009 06:16 LaughingTulkas wrote: I think the fact that Danzo wanted Orochimaru's experiment data is significant to this debate. We know Oro wanted to live forever, but had trouble keeping his bodies in working order. Madara also seems to have lived much longer than anyone would normally expect. Danzo is pretty old, but wants Kabuto and that information which "will be useful for my right eye and arm"
Madara used Pain with his Jutsu to keep him alive, btw.
The point I was trying to make with that picture was that they share the same hair, eye creases and now sharingan. Notice how Madara only showed his right eye, just as Danzo only showed his in the last panel. Since his arm is covered, we also don't know if it's a stump or not, and he may just be hiding it because of the bolts and whatnot. In chapter 454, which has been brought up earlier, we get a glimpse into Danzo's thoughts "he might no about me and Orochimaru". Danzo, if he was Madara, may have had contact with Orochimaru and affected his decision to join Akatsuki. In chapters that reveal more about Akatsuki, we get the sense that they had more reasons besides just being terrorists for joining the organization. It is implied that Kisame joined because of the Mizukage; Itachi joined in order to stop Madara; Pain and Konan joined because Madara offered a way to create "peace" through a doomsday device (if Danzo was Madara, it would support the idea that Madara controlled the events surrounding Pain's decent into darkness, since Danzo was the one who helped Hanzo drive Nagato into a corner). It wouldn't be too farfetched to say that Orochimaru was promised eternal life if he followed Madara, since Madara obviously has the information he wants since he's survived death at the hands of the First Hokage.
I'll admit that I was jumping the gun a bit, but I still don't like that you're shooting down the idea of Danzo being Madara. There are so many things that would make sense if it was true.
Yeah I agree that danzo/madara thing does make sense in a lot of ways (despite danzo clearly looking way older than madara over and over, and danzo looking younger at a time madara would still be quite old).
It's just that.. if they are the same person... it's really stupid. how could danzo be a village elder and no one even know who he is or his background or anything! that doesn't make any sense. what about the other village elders? they don't remember when they were younger? did danzo just appear out of thin air and everyone went with it?
oh my fuking god !!!! :O Maybe danzo isnt madara , just another uchiha clan dude , or maybe he is madara ... idk , but if he is madara then i will fucking jizz my pants ... ;O
What if his deal with orochimaru was for his arm and the eyes.... remember orochimaru was like maimed after his battle with the 3rd Hokage, and kakashi got an eye too so... I am hoping he's not madara that would be lame...
On July 10 2009 11:55 travis wrote: Yeah I agree that danzo/madara thing does make sense in a lot of ways (despite danzo clearly looking way older than madara over and over, and danzo looking younger at a time madara would still be quite old).
It's just that.. if they are the same person... it's really stupid. how could danzo be a village elder and no one even know who he is or his background or anything! that doesn't make any sense. what about the other village elders? they don't remember when they were younger? did danzo just appear out of thin air and everyone went with it?
lol sharingan?
Anyways, I think Danzo = Madara is bullshit. Basically, Madara is a superawesome bad guy while Danzo is the lame old loser, not to mention how he could possibly be the Mizukage and the Hokage and the age and everything (Orochimaru theory sounds dumb too, if he was Madara why would he need to go send Sai when he could just walk in? Orochimaru isn't stupid, he would've seen that Sai was needed for something).
Not to mention he says "it's been a while since I fought" and by my counts it hasn't been a long time since Madara fought.
On July 10 2009 11:55 travis wrote: Yeah I agree that danzo/madara thing does make sense in a lot of ways (despite danzo clearly looking way older than madara over and over, and danzo looking younger at a time madara would still be quite old).
It's just that.. if they are the same person... it's really stupid. how could danzo be a village elder and no one even know who he is or his background or anything! that doesn't make any sense. what about the other village elders? they don't remember when they were younger? did danzo just appear out of thin air and everyone went with it?
lol sharingan?
Anyways, I think Danzo = Madara is bullshit. Basically, Madara is a superawesome bad guy while Danzo is the lame old loser, not to mention how he could possibly be the Mizukage and the Hokage and the age and everything (Orochimaru theory sounds dumb too, if he was Madara why would he need to go send Sai when he could just walk in? Orochimaru isn't stupid, he would've seen that Sai was needed for something).
Not to mention he says "it's been a while since I fought" and by my counts it hasn't been a long time since Madara fought.
Srsly i think is bullshit also, if Tobi is not misleading everyone with the story. Danzo is not Madara.
True Uchita operates two sharingan eyes, while moochers like Kakashi and Danzo only has one sharingan, its permanent and requires eye patches (cuz it burns chakra). This only shows Danzo is a moocher, we dont know whose eye is it yet.
If Danzo is Madara, he can fucking dimensional teleport himself, or ask the venus flytrap guy to find Kubuto. Who fucking needs root minions?
Danzo is an asshole from what I have seen, helping to kill pains friends then wanting saske dead and not trusting naruto, I hope he dies or goes evil so a new hokage can be elected. Maybe they are setting it up for Danzo to be in power for a short time and for Naruto to become it?
EPT
