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IshinShishi
Japan6156 Posts
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Raneth
England527 Posts
On March 28 2013 14:31 Forikorder wrote: sorry when you mentioned her getting kamuid i assume you were talking about Obito what was i thinking -.- Kakashis Kamui is next to useless Tsunade would dodge it easy every time and he can only use it a couple times hed never get a chance plus Sharingan genjutsu has never worked on anyone important ever unless Itachi was the one using it so he wouldnt be able to use Sharingan to trick Tsunade Tsunade would jsut smash his face in Tsunade is on the same level as Orochimaru and Jiraiya show her some respect Never worked on anyone important? I guess I misremembered Danzo being killed by just that, my mistake.... Also, the original claim was that kakashi could take tsunade, not that tsunade was weak... | ||
Skullflower
United States3779 Posts
On March 28 2013 13:17 Alaric wrote: Tsunade is from the First's bloodline, and that in itself is important enough politically/PR speaking, on top of being one of the Seinin (they approached Jiraya partly because of that) that she's a sensible choice as a representant and somebody who will interact with most politically high-rank outsiders. At the same time Kakashi's father was one of the most powerful and feared shinobi of his time | ||
RvB
Netherlands6220 Posts
On March 28 2013 18:01 IshinShishi wrote: ya, I thought madara would be an improved version of itachi, what a disappointment. He is, he has way more stamina, an EMS and a better susano'o. Dunno about his genjutsu though but in anything else Madara is simply better. | ||
HeartOfTheSwarm
Niue585 Posts
On March 29 2013 04:13 RvB wrote: He is, he has way more stamina, an EMS and a better susano'o. Dunno about his genjutsu though but in anything else Madara is simply better. I think he thought about character. Itachi seems the only Uchiha who objective without emo love/hate shenanigans | ||
Scorcher2k
United States802 Posts
On March 29 2013 04:18 HeartOfTheSwarm wrote: I think he thought about character. Itachi seems the only Uchiha who objective without emo love/hate shenanigans Itachi was simply the best character in this entire manga/anime imo. The small meetings that they had with him before the time jump were some of my favorite moments and were super epic. | ||
Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
On March 28 2013 14:31 Forikorder wrote: sorry when you mentioned her getting kamuid i assume you were talking about Obito what was i thinking -.- Kakashis Kamui is next to useless Tsunade would dodge it easy every time and he can only use it a couple times hed never get a chance plus Sharingan genjutsu has never worked on anyone important ever unless Itachi was the one using it so he wouldnt be able to use Sharingan to trick Tsunade Tsunade would jsut smash his face in Tsunade is on the same level as Orochimaru and Jiraiya show her some respect Um no only super fast people can dodge Kamui. Tsunade has never shown any speed of any sort, she is NOT a combat specialist. Kakashi has the speed and the quick thinking to easily avoid close encounters and has a whole stack of tech he can draw upon to attack her from distance. She would probably last a while since she has stamina and healing but very little offensive potential. And that is assuming kakashi doesn't 1 shot her with Kamui. | ||
Bam Lee
2336 Posts
I believe it is mostly about the reputation of their strength. They considered jiraiya/tsunade for the place of the 5th hokage simply because they were the former students of sarutobi. They were 2 of the 3 legendary ninjas of konoha(forgot how its called). Well madara seems be quite mad. It might have been Tobirama who turned madara into this beast afterall. I am just curious how madara survived those 1000 bitchslaps of doom | ||
Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
Never worked on anyone important? I guess I misremembered Danzo being killed by just that, my mistake.... Also, the original claim was that kakashi could take tsunade, not that tsunade was weak... Sasuke managed to kill danzo like a dozen times without genjutsu the Genjutsu just made it happen a bit faster if tsunade is weaker then Kakashi then that means shes weak, Kakashi isnt strong enough for people below him to be considered strong Um no only super fast people can dodge Kamui. Tsunade has never shown any speed of any sort, she is NOT a combat specialist. Kakashi has the speed and the quick thinking to easily avoid close encounters and has a whole stack of tech he can draw upon to attack her from distance. She would probably last a while since she has stamina and healing but very little offensive potential. And that is assuming kakashi doesn't 1 shot her with Kamui. since when is Diedaras clay bird super fast? Kakashi and NAruto could easily keep up with it by running and Deidara had ages to dodge the Kamui your confusing kakashis Kamui with Obitos Kamui | ||
Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
On March 29 2013 12:40 Forikorder wrote: Sasuke managed to kill danzo like a dozen times without genjutsu the Genjutsu just made it happen a bit faster if tsunade is weaker then Kakashi then that means shes weak, Kakashi isnt strong enough for people below him to be considered strong since when is Diedaras clay bird super fast? Kakashi and NAruto could easily keep up with it by running and Deidara had ages to dodge the Kamui your confusing kakashis Kamui with Obitos Kamui That was when he 1st activated it, He was Eye hacking high speed projectiles like vs Pain and I think he Kamui'd some of the Susanoo arrows vs Sasuke. He would win without Kamui. He is a combat specialist who has been called a genius strategist and is fast as hell. I am pretty sure people have stated he would be a monster if he wasn't so weak in the Chakra/overall stamina department. Tsunade isn't focused on fighting she is a primary support/medical type (who also has solid combat skills) Her only major threat is basically her strength but she wouldn't be able to land a punch (assuming 1 hit = KO she would still be at a disadvantage) She also doesn't have any God like tech for offense or to protect herself so Kakashi's 1000 techniques would be effective here. Her primary talent is her amazing healing for herself and everyone around her. He only chance of winning is to basically take a large chunk of dmg and heal to the point that Kakashi doesn't have chakra. Then she still has to contend with his superior taijutzu. She has the strength in that area but he has the speed and much better technique at it. | ||
Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
He would win without Kamui. He is a combat specialist who has been called a genius strategist and is fast as hell. I am pretty sure people have stated he would be a monster if he wasn't so weak in the Chakra/overall stamina department. but Tsunade is one the 3 legendary Sannin thats nothing to scoff at if the elders thought that Kakashi was on the level of the Sannin they wouldnt ahve gone through so much trouble and jsut nominated him the start Tsunade isn't focused on fighting she is a primary support/medical type (who also has solid combat skills) Her only major threat is basically her strength but she wouldn't be able to land a punch (assuming 1 hit = KO she would still be at a disadvantage) She also doesn't have any God like tech for offense or to protect herself so Kakashi's 1000 techniques would be effective here. Her primary talent is her amazing healing for herself and everyone around her. He only chance of winning is to basically take a large chunk of dmg and heal to the point that Kakashi doesn't have chakra. Then she still has to contend with his superior taijutzu. She has the strength in that area but he has the speed and much better technique at it. i disagree with yuor assesment, Tsunade trained Sakura in avoiding attacks primarily to prevent getting hurt, between her regeneration and dodging i dont think Kakashi would be able to take her down hed have the upper hand at the start but shed wear him down fast enough | ||
ImDrizzt
Norway427 Posts
I wonder, if Gai dies, will Kakashi awaken Rinnegan? | ||
husniack
203 Posts
On March 29 2013 12:59 ImDrizzt wrote: I wonder, if Gai dies, will Kakashi awaken Rinnegan? rofl. | ||
Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
On March 29 2013 12:57 Forikorder wrote: That was when he 1st activated it, He was Eye hacking high speed projectiles like vs Pain and I think he Kamui'd some of the Susanoo arrows vs Sasuke. He would win without Kamui. He is a combat specialist who has been called a genius strategist and is fast as hell. I am pretty sure people have stated he would be a monster if he wasn't so weak in the Chakra/overall stamina department. but Tsunade is one the 3 legendary Sannin thats nothing to scoff at if the elders thought that Kakashi was on the level of the Sannin they wouldnt ahve gone through so much trouble and jsut nominated him the start i disagree with yuor assesment, Tsunade trained Sakura in avoiding attacks primarily to prevent getting hurt, between her regeneration and dodging i dont think Kakashi would be able to take her down hed have the upper hand at the start but shed wear him down fast enough They wanted name recognition, thats why they went for Jiraya. He specifically guided them to nominate her. I would have to check but I think around that time his Kakashi's came up and he was like "no way". I agree that she did teach Sakura to avoid damage because they are both Medical and therefore are vital. Again here I want to know what kind of potential offense she could ever muster. She was outclassed in the fight Her + Jiraya + Naruto vs Oro and Kabuto. In that fight Oro didn't have his arms and Kabuto was far from being what he is now. Imo she is Sannin because she is the top of the top in the medical ninjutzu not because she has impressive fighting capabilities. | ||
BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
On March 29 2013 12:59 ImDrizzt wrote: I wonder, if Gai dies, will Kakashi awaken Rinnegan? He's not a senju. | ||
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You have to be a senju to awaken Rinnegan? I thought Madara originally awakened the only Rinnegan we know in the present. | ||
Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On March 29 2013 13:10 Slaughter wrote: They wanted name recognition, thats why they went for Jiraya. He specifically guided them to nominate her. I would have to check but I think around that time his Kakashi's came up and he was like "no way". I agree that she did teach Sakura to avoid damage because they are both Medical and therefore are vital. Again here I want to know what kind of potential offense she could ever muster. She was outclassed in the fight Her + Jiraya + Naruto vs Oro and Kabuto. In that fight Oro didn't have his arms and Kabuto was far from being what he is now. Imo she is Sannin because she is the top of the top in the medical ninjutzu not because she has impressive fighting capabilities. Oro said that the Kabuto of then was as strong as Kakashi so its a good comparison | ||
DODswe4
Sweden2157 Posts
On March 29 2013 13:29 Proof. wrote: You have to be a senju to awaken Rinnegan? I thought Madara originally awakened the only Rinnegan we know in the present. you need to have senju dna and a sharingan. Madara managed to achieve that before he died. And hes Edo-tensei have Hasirama on hes chest so.... yeah | ||
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On March 29 2013 13:35 DODswe4 wrote: you need to have senju dna and a sharingan. Madara managed to achieve that before he died. And hes Edo-tensei have Hasirama on hes chest so.... yeah Ah I see, thanks for that ! | ||
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