EPTOn March 28 2013 08:08 Roggay wrote:
Madara is so emo. How do you change so much in two panels anyway?
Madara is so emo. How do you change so much in two panels anyway?
by being insane the stronger the Uchihas eyes the more insane they are
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
by being insane the stronger the Uchihas eyes the more insane they are | ||
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Sumahi
Guam5609 Posts
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On March 28 2013 06:14 Sabu113 wrote: Kakashi has all these nominal statements that he's strong. It's just htat Kishi needs to constantly weaken him so he doesn't outshine Naruto. I believe atleast in the anime when he's training Sasuke. In the scene where he's climbing the cliff they mention that he can open up the same number of gates as Gai. This is untop of his insane jutsu arsenal (which is useless now but anyway)... So in a confusing way it makes sense to put Kakashi as one of the strongest ninjas around period. His main strength being incredible planning and a rare sharingan while every other Kage seems to have some sort of bloodline limit. i pretty much agree. thing is, even if kakashi can open gates i dont think he can use them in the way gai can. for example, morning peacock/ daytime tiger are obscenely powerful techniques that put incredible strain on the user's body-- gai needed a lot of training so he wouldn't just die from them. while kakashi in theory could copy them, his body would probably just fall apart afterwards. kakashi is cool as shit, but simply having a weaker body and lower stamina is going to severely hold him back, even if his jutsu library and strategies are better than most. for example if he and a fought, a would literally take kakashi by the head and smash him into the ground. he moves so fast kamui would be useless, and i doubt raikiri would even tickle him. | ||
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JKM
Denmark419 Posts
On March 28 2013 09:58 ticklishmusic wrote: i pretty much agree. thing is, even if kakashi can open gates i dont think he can use them in the way gai can. for example, morning peacock/ daytime tiger are obscenely powerful techniques that put incredible strain on the user's body-- gai needed a lot of training so he wouldn't just die from them. while kakashi in theory could copy them, his body would probably just fall apart afterwards. kakashi is cool as shit, but simply having a weaker body and lower stamina is going to severely hold him back, even if his jutsu library and strategies are better than most. for example if he and a fought, a would literally take kakashi by the head and smash him into the ground. he moves so fast kamui would be useless, and i doubt raikiri would even tickle him. Those limitations are probably the reason why he's so popular in the first place. Seeing Naruto and other ninja-gods just throw huge mega jutsus around as if it's nothing is not really that interesting  . | ||
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sumsaR
Sweden1812 Posts
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ixi.genocide
United States981 Posts
I wonder why he can't copy Minato's teleport move. I wonder if he could now... | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On March 28 2013 10:59 ixi.genocide wrote: Kakashi is extremely powerful, he is downplayed a lot because of the introduction of new characters. I think if the storyline was about kakashi he would be looked at in a different view point. I would say that he is definitely more powerful than tsunade the current Hokage and now that he has figured out the kamui is on par w/ the most powerful of the Kage's. Eventually he will be able to use the Kamui a lot more, similarly to how he can now keep the sharingan active for a long time. I wonder why he can't copy Minato's teleport move. I wonder if he could now... no he couldnt, Minato doesnt use hand signs he uses the seal he probably also has some special chakra that lets him do it the Sharingan can only copy basic techniques that anyone can use | ||
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recklessfire
United States373 Posts
On March 28 2013 10:59 ixi.genocide wrote: Kakashi is extremely powerful, he is downplayed a lot because of the introduction of new characters. I think if the storyline was about kakashi he would be looked at in a different view point. I would say that he is definitely more powerful than tsunade the current Hokage and now that he has figured out the kamui is on par w/ the most powerful of the Kage's. Eventually he will be able to use the Kamui a lot more, similarly to how he can now keep the sharingan active for a long time. I wonder why he can't copy Minato's teleport move. I wonder if he could now... minato's teleport move wasn't a standard technique per say. Minato would place a seal on the person and then the seal allows him to teleport to the person in an instant. I don't think kakashi is more powerful than tsunade, he may have a very strong attack, but beyond that, i dont think his overall power is enough to take on individuals like the kages in a 1v1. We know for sure though kakashi is at the very least top 3 jounin in the village, as he was the next in line to take over for hokage just in case tsunade actually died. Hokage's are not just about power, but also intellect and they have a very good reputation with the village and politicians i think. | ||
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IshinShishi
Japan6156 Posts
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Slardar
Canada7596 Posts
Only way I can justify Madara just flipping his shit randomly, would be crediting Tobirama's assessment instead of making up my own story. Stronger your eyes, the more batshit fucked you get. Done deal. Kakashi is way stronger than Tsunade, no doubt in my mind. She does have a multitude of overpowered healing abilities though, so overall her usefulness is stronger. That doesn't correlate very well to 1 vs 1 confrontations though. Kakashi as next Hokage would have the story milked to profit until Naruto eventually becomes Hokage. Naruto becoming the next on the other hand, well then I can only assume the end is near. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On March 28 2013 12:53 Slardar wrote: Indeed, once he lost sway with his people he should have been done with. To leave that powerful of a wildcard just floating around is not solid politics. Anyway that's wonderful, they are bloody ninjas back in the day with little sense. Only way I can justify Madara just flipping his shit randomly, would be crediting Tobirama's assessment instead of making up my own story. Stronger your eyes, the more batshit fucked you get. Done deal. Kakashi is way stronger than Tsunade, no doubt in my mind. She does have a multitude of overpowered healing abilities though, so overall her usefulness is stronger. That doesn't correlate very well to 1 vs 1 confrontations though. Kakashi as next Hokage would have the story milked to profit until Naruto eventually becomes Hokage. Naruto becoming the next on the other hand, well then I can only assume the end is near. Tsunade has the insta regeneration mark though and few people (if any) could take a punch from her Tsunade is far stronger then Kakashi | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Slardar
Canada7596 Posts
On March 28 2013 13:14 Forikorder wrote: Tsunade has the insta regeneration mark though and few people (if any) could take a punch from her Tsunade is far stronger then Kakashi That wasn't exactly a good rebuttal. How is she going to even punch the guy? Sharingenagans bro. Insta regen to die some more bro!? Why did you even reply if you have nothing to say? Thanks, I'm aware of what Tsunade is capable of, that doesn't reinforce anything you have to say. All you have to say is "I'm right, you're wrong". The thought is not well received or appreciated. Now on the other hand, when she fought with Kabuto her melee capabilities looked sub-par. Doesn't matter how hard you hit, if you can never land a punch imo. Or she can just get sent to another dimension via Kamui or some other nonsense. Fans everywhere cried "Valve nerf pls". | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On March 28 2013 13:38 Slardar wrote: That wasn't exactly a good rebuttal. How is she going to even punch the guy? Sharingenagans bro. Insta regen to die some more bro!? Why did you even reply if you have nothing to say? Thanks, I'm aware of what Tsunade is capable of, that doesn't reinforce anything you have to say. All you have to say is "I'm right, you're wrong". The thought is not well received or appreciated. Now on the other hand, when she fought with Kabuto her melee capabilities looked sub-par. Doesn't matter how hard you hit, if you can never land a punch imo. Or she can just get sent to another dimension via Kamui or some other nonsense. Fans everywhere cried "Valve nerf pls". ya lets compare someone to the most broken character in the manga and use that as an excuse to say shes weak... noone can beat Obito in a one V one just because she cant doesnt mean shes weak | ||
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Phunkapotamus
United States496 Posts
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Zooper31
United States5713 Posts
On March 28 2013 13:41 Forikorder wrote: ya lets compare someone to the most broken character in the manga and use that as an excuse to say shes weak... noone can beat Obito in a one V one just because she cant doesnt mean shes weak Since when was Kabuto the most brocken character in the manga thats Obito, Naruto, Sasuke if anything. Who said anything about beating Obito 1v1? She was fighting a weaker Kabuto but couldn't land a punch. Granted she was weaker too. If they both fought again, assuming they both grew equal amounts, Kabuto would just win again. Pretty sure Kakashi could beat Tsunade 1v1. Avoid her melee attacks and Kamui her away while abusing Sharingan tracking and genjutsu. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On March 28 2013 14:28 Zooper31 wrote: Since when was Kabuto the most brocken character in the manga thats Obito, Naruto, Sasuke if anything. Who said anything about beating Obito 1v1? She was fighting a weaker Kabuto but couldn't land a punch. Granted she was weaker too. If they both fought again, assuming they both grew equal amounts, Kabuto would just win again. Pretty sure Kakashi could beat Tsunade 1v1. Avoid her melee attacks and Kamui her away while abusing Sharingan tracking and genjutsu. sorry when you mentioned her getting kamuid i assume you were talking about Obito what was i thinking -.- Kakashis Kamui is next to useless Tsunade would dodge it easy every time and he can only use it a couple times hed never get a chance plus Sharingan genjutsu has never worked on anyone important ever unless Itachi was the one using it so he wouldnt be able to use Sharingan to trick Tsunade Tsunade would jsut smash his face in Tsunade is on the same level as Orochimaru and Jiraiya show her some respect | ||
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IshinShishi
Japan6156 Posts
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
But that's irrelevant since neither of them have a bloodline limit/kekkei genkai. While "1 sharingan" was a pretty huge deal at the start of naruto it kinda lost its impact(friggin danzo had 10). Gai would beat both of them in a fight. He has the best taijutsu capabilities in konoha. He is shown similarly strong as kakashi, but gai has much more stamina. When kakashi is out of stamina, gai is still warming up. When tsunade is too slow to actually hit someone, gai would hit that enemy and the dude next to him with 100% precision. When regular ninjas are out of throwing knifes, gai just laughs: Fists are never out of ammo. He has just a very unprofessional personality, so he could never represent konoha to the nobles or the kages of other countries. | ||
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eXeZerg
95 Posts
On March 27 2013 22:30 RvB wrote: Itachi would get penetrated harder by Hashirama's wood than Madara. Hmm I think Itachi has way more talent Madara. But the writer gave him some plot illness bullshit else he would be too overpowered. | ||
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