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Garalor
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany136 Posts
March 20 2013 15:16 GMT
#13521
oh edo tensai @ madara,
kabuto found DNA from madara, but there is no hair to find from jiraiya? to bad fatch a girl he liked(a lot) :D but that with the body of him in the deep see(already eaten by fish) is acceptable.

any ideas how kabuto found DNA from Madara?
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
March 20 2013 15:16 GMT
#13522
On March 20 2013 15:28 Asol wrote:
Seems to be a combination. From the EMS you can also gain the Rinnengan. I view it as a similar upgrade from sharingan -> MS.

The downside is that the person is mentally unstable as the things they've experienced are quite awful to have led forward to the evolution of sharingan.

I think quite a few people here are forgetting that what we're hearing is the 1st hokages side of the story. Not Madaras side of the story which will undoubtedly come in a couple of chapters and that's why everything seems so weird atm.

why would MAdara tell his side?
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
March 20 2013 17:42 GMT
#13523
On March 20 2013 22:11 Paperplane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2013 20:48 Mataza wrote:
Does anybody else find it disturbing that Uchiha are actually able to awaken the Rinnegan by severe traumatization, depression and generally being emo?
The Rinnegan is one of the only things we know the sage of the six paths had.
The only other thing is his way of treating the bijuu, which Naruto is kinda aping.

One would think that the great deeds of the sage of the six paths would first be recreated by his senju descendants. Yet the self destructive uchiha clan was the first to recreate part of the sage's power.


Yeah I wonder what will cause Madara to awaken the rinnegan. I mean he already lost all his family, his clan members defected to his rival's side and he lost to hashirama one on one.
I wonder what could be more traumatizing. The realization he can't even beat Hashirama with the kyuubi at his side seems less depressing to me then the previous events but who knows.

Also I think the Uchiha inherited the sage's eye power, the Senju his vitality and chakra reserves, and the Uzumaki clan his sealing skills but don't quote me on this.
So at least some of his talents weren't wasted :D


Well the Senju spread peace love happiness and stuff so they win on that point
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BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
March 20 2013 18:37 GMT
#13524
On March 21 2013 00:16 Garalor wrote:
oh edo tensai @ madara,
kabuto found DNA from madara, but there is no hair to find from jiraiya? to bad fatch a girl he liked(a lot) :D but that with the body of him in the deep see(already eaten by fish) is acceptable.

any ideas how kabuto found DNA from Madara?


Maybe he found a girl madara really liked a lot.
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Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
March 20 2013 18:44 GMT
#13525
I'm waiting for the day the ultimate 3 eyed badass shows up. He'll have all 3 super eyes. The sharingan, rinnegan and byakugan and will be unstoppable. The three eyes will combine to produce the ultimate and super rarest eye jutsu that will be so badass, it's hard to fathom even what that eye jutsu would look like.
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MrStorkie
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom697 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-20 18:58:08
March 20 2013 18:57 GMT
#13526
On March 20 2013 20:10 MageSoren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2013 18:19 Kazeyonoma wrote:
to defend forikorder, they do explicitly say that Jiraiya's body is at the bottom of a very deep sea chasm and the pressure at that depth is too strong even for the greatest shinobi to retrieve. They state it in the manga, as well as in the anime. So any further postulation about this and that being possible, they already covered this 'plot hole' with some sort of super environmental force.



I think we can both agree Jiraiya isn't ever coming back. But your information is partially wrong. Jiraiya's body is never stated to be in a chasm nor is it said that the depth is too strong even for the greatest shinobi. The manga (english translation) states the body is deep in the ocean below unfathomable depths. The anime (englished subbed) states the body is deep in the ocean where the pressure is too strong to enter.

I can't check on the manga's original raw since I couldn't find it. But I watched the anime to check the Japanese dub. I can translate that it says that Jiraiya's body is in the ocean/sea's depth (深海の中) where one can't enter. It doesn't say anything about pressure (I guess it just implies it).

Source: manga - ch 520 pg 14 or shippuden episode 264

Edit:
Though the only way to bring Jiraiya back would be the have his DNA (source above), not necessarily his body.

Dead bodies float.. the question is, where and why is jiraiya hiding

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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
March 20 2013 19:00 GMT
#13527
On March 21 2013 03:44 Canucklehead wrote:
I'm waiting for the day the ultimate 3 eyed badass shows up. He'll have all 3 super eyes. The sharingan, rinnegan and byakugan and will be unstoppable. The three eyes will combine to produce the ultimate and super rarest eye jutsu that will be so badass, it's hard to fathom even what that eye jutsu would look like.

that would be actually pretty terrible TBH.
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MageSoren
Profile Joined April 2010
United States53 Posts
March 20 2013 19:36 GMT
#13528
On March 21 2013 03:57 MrStorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2013 20:10 MageSoren wrote:
On March 20 2013 18:19 Kazeyonoma wrote:
to defend forikorder, they do explicitly say that Jiraiya's body is at the bottom of a very deep sea chasm and the pressure at that depth is too strong even for the greatest shinobi to retrieve. They state it in the manga, as well as in the anime. So any further postulation about this and that being possible, they already covered this 'plot hole' with some sort of super environmental force.



I think we can both agree Jiraiya isn't ever coming back. But your information is partially wrong. Jiraiya's body is never stated to be in a chasm nor is it said that the depth is too strong even for the greatest shinobi. The manga (english translation) states the body is deep in the ocean below unfathomable depths. The anime (englished subbed) states the body is deep in the ocean where the pressure is too strong to enter.

I can't check on the manga's original raw since I couldn't find it. But I watched the anime to check the Japanese dub. I can translate that it says that Jiraiya's body is in the ocean/sea's depth (深海の中) where one can't enter. It doesn't say anything about pressure (I guess it just implies it).

Source: manga - ch 520 pg 14 or shippuden episode 264

Edit:
Though the only way to bring Jiraiya back would be the have his DNA (source above), not necessarily his body.

Dead bodies float.. the question is, where and why is jiraiya hiding



You're assuming a dead body that has no life (soul) and therefore would not move, act, or think. In this particular case, these undead bodies (with souls called upon through resurrection) can move, act, and think.

Hiya!
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
March 20 2013 19:44 GMT
#13529
On the topic how madara got revived.
Tobi planned to bring him back with the Rinnegan. It has not yet been stated whether the rinnegan needs the actual body to bring someone back to live, but I assume it does.
Since pain only revived people that died in the konoha war, it would be an intuitive condition for the rinnegan to require the body. Otherwise we would need to wonder why pain did not revive other people that he killed, for example jaraiya.

So the rinnegan needs the whole body to resurrect someone, then tobi must have had madaras body locked up somewhere. I don't think it's weird that kabuto found madaras body while he worked with tobi.
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Hier
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
2391 Posts
March 20 2013 20:00 GMT
#13530
On March 21 2013 03:57 MrStorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2013 20:10 MageSoren wrote:
On March 20 2013 18:19 Kazeyonoma wrote:
to defend forikorder, they do explicitly say that Jiraiya's body is at the bottom of a very deep sea chasm and the pressure at that depth is too strong even for the greatest shinobi to retrieve. They state it in the manga, as well as in the anime. So any further postulation about this and that being possible, they already covered this 'plot hole' with some sort of super environmental force.



I think we can both agree Jiraiya isn't ever coming back. But your information is partially wrong. Jiraiya's body is never stated to be in a chasm nor is it said that the depth is too strong even for the greatest shinobi. The manga (english translation) states the body is deep in the ocean below unfathomable depths. The anime (englished subbed) states the body is deep in the ocean where the pressure is too strong to enter.

I can't check on the manga's original raw since I couldn't find it. But I watched the anime to check the Japanese dub. I can translate that it says that Jiraiya's body is in the ocean/sea's depth (深海の中) where one can't enter. It doesn't say anything about pressure (I guess it just implies it).

Source: manga - ch 520 pg 14 or shippuden episode 264

Edit:
Though the only way to bring Jiraiya back would be the have his DNA (source above), not necessarily his body.

Dead bodies float.. the question is, where and why is jiraiya hiding

Maybe the frogs came by, gobbled up whatever remains he had left, and are now in the process of reviving him. Bringing someone back to life is so easy in Naruto.
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RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6220 Posts
March 20 2013 20:05 GMT
#13531
On March 21 2013 03:44 Canucklehead wrote:
I'm waiting for the day the ultimate 3 eyed badass shows up. He'll have all 3 super eyes. The sharingan, rinnegan and byakugan and will be unstoppable. The three eyes will combine to produce the ultimate and super rarest eye jutsu that will be so badass, it's hard to fathom even what that eye jutsu would look like.


Naruto's child with Hinata steals Sasuke's childs EMS.Uzumaki with sharingan and byakugan and because he has the body of the sage via Uzumaki blood and the ems he also gains rinnegan ^^
SatelliteNoodles
Profile Joined June 2011
220 Posts
March 20 2013 20:42 GMT
#13532
On March 21 2013 05:05 RvB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2013 03:44 Canucklehead wrote:
I'm waiting for the day the ultimate 3 eyed badass shows up. He'll have all 3 super eyes. The sharingan, rinnegan and byakugan and will be unstoppable. The three eyes will combine to produce the ultimate and super rarest eye jutsu that will be so badass, it's hard to fathom even what that eye jutsu would look like.


Naruto's child with Hinata steals Sasuke's childs EMS.Uzumaki with sharingan and byakugan and because he has the body of the sage via Uzumaki blood and the ems he also gains rinnegan ^^

Unless Hinata decides to be a meat Shield again.
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
March 21 2013 04:50 GMT
#13533
On March 21 2013 05:42 SatelliteNoodles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2013 05:05 RvB wrote:
On March 21 2013 03:44 Canucklehead wrote:
I'm waiting for the day the ultimate 3 eyed badass shows up. He'll have all 3 super eyes. The sharingan, rinnegan and byakugan and will be unstoppable. The three eyes will combine to produce the ultimate and super rarest eye jutsu that will be so badass, it's hard to fathom even what that eye jutsu would look like.


Naruto's child with Hinata steals Sasuke's childs EMS.Uzumaki with sharingan and byakugan and because he has the body of the sage via Uzumaki blood and the ems he also gains rinnegan ^^

Unless Hinata decides to be a meat Shield again.


Nah, unless Kishi decides to pull a Game of Thrones and nuke half the cast, I'm pretty sure the inspirational motivational tragic fodder ninja death quota has been met for now.

He'll probably come back to life anyways.
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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
March 21 2013 04:52 GMT
#13534
One thing I am not sure of is why the hell is Madara young AND with the Rinnegan while the 3rd is old. Since people have said that you likely come back in the state you were when you died shouldn't Madara be either Old with Rinnegan or young without it?
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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
March 21 2013 05:08 GMT
#13535
On March 21 2013 13:52 Slaughter wrote:
One thing I am not sure of is why the hell is Madara young AND with the Rinnegan while the 3rd is old. Since people have said that you likely come back in the state you were when you died shouldn't Madara be either Old with Rinnegan or young without it?

basically Kabuto said he messed with MAdaras edo (which is why hes got the 1st sticking out of his chest) and that made him young and didnt spoil the coming plot twist
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-21 17:45:22
March 21 2013 05:09 GMT
#13536
On March 21 2013 13:52 Slaughter wrote:
One thing I am not sure of is why the hell is Madara young AND with the Rinnegan while the 3rd is old. Since people have said that you likely come back in the state you were when you died shouldn't Madara be either Old with Rinnegan or young without it?


Correction: as several people have explained, Edo Tensei brings you back right before you died.
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Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
March 21 2013 06:26 GMT
#13537
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Fulla
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom519 Posts
March 21 2013 07:19 GMT
#13538
It brings you back how you wre just before you died.

Kabuto spent alot of time modifying Madara's edo tensse, hence the massive charkra needed to summon him unlike all the others.
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-21 20:06:54
March 21 2013 19:55 GMT
#13539
On March 20 2013 18:18 RvB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2013 17:44 BigFan wrote:
I guess the one thing that confused me was the fact that the Uchiha kept on being outmatched. As someone here mentioned, could be that the Senju found a way to overcome the Sharingan after battling with them for so long kinda like how Gai said that you can close your eyes but even then, I always figured that the Sharingan gave the Uchiha an extra edge over the Senju and that they were otherwise equal so when he said they were being outmatched, it seemed a bit odd lol.


I just figured the clans were still equal except for their leaders with Hashirama simply outclassing Madara and tipping scales the Senju way.

you're right, dunno what I wrote there lol but I still dunno how it is that they are evenly matched with the Sharingan considering how OP the Sharingan seems to be. I dunno if Hashirama by himself can tip the scales though, I mean he is one crazy OP ninja but to tip it all by himself, seems a bit much? I agree otherwise. I think I was originally thinking that they are on par strength wise but the Sharingan gave them some edge but ya, my bad XD

Edit: Edo tensei brings you back right before you died but Kabuto said that he modified Madara's body beyond his prime. Incoming total domination of Madara by Hashirama! :D I think Madara will finally see that Hashirama is (still) superior to him(I know he admitted it in flashback). It does sound familiar to Goku and Vegeta even though their story isn't in the same vein as Naruto. Wonder if Kishi will decide to pull something like that off lol
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shark.
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
593 Posts
March 21 2013 20:19 GMT
#13540
Honestly with all the hype of Madara vs Harashima, Uchiha vs Senju im quite dissapointed to find out it was really just a rofl stomp fest by harashima and the Senju. Madara was supposed to be a truly feared person whoes name was enough to unite the shinobi world and start a war without any proof of him being alive. Only to find out that even with EMS he gets seemingly rolled by harashima is quite a disappointment for me.
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