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cekkmt
Profile Joined November 2010
United States352 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-16 04:09:28
February 16 2013 04:06 GMT
#13261
nvm ninja'd
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-16 09:25:56
February 16 2013 04:12 GMT
#13262
the gold and silver brothers kinkaku and ginkaku killed the second hokage
http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Kinkaku_Force
http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v56/c529/11.html
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Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
February 20 2013 00:45 GMT
#13263
On February 14 2013 15:12 Dakkas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 15:06 Dark_Chill wrote:
Kind of an unrelated question, but I was rereading zabuza arc... are they ever going to do anything about jutsu with 1 hand, or even none? Haku was supposed to be a genius because of it, but it hasn't been mentioned since.

Back to the present. How are the old ninja so damn strong? You'd think that with each new generation, they'd be getting stronger (developing/improving techniques). I thought the Raikage (probably prime of his life) was strong, but the kage before him in addition to all the hokage seem to overshadow him. For comparison's sake:
Sasuke faced the Raikage head on, almost killed him (maybe, damn you Gaara). Sasuke has a heart attack the instant The Second getting pissed off.
I don't think Sasuke (or anyone else) is needed to stop Madara. Just send the first second and third in there. If I remember correctly, the Third was stronger than the first in his prime, so with infinite chakra he should be pretty strong even in his state.


The Third was never stronger than the First. You're simply falling in the most common pitfall for Shounen, Hype and Feats/Capabilities. Hiruzen is almost entirely all hype, with little impressive showings because of his age. The First is a combination of both hype and feats


(Hiruzen was one of the most powerful shinobi in history, so much so that he was admired as the God of Shinobi (忍の神, Shinobi no Kami) in his prime, and was said to be the strongest Hokage that Konoha has ever had.)
-Taken from the wiki
But yeah, it is rather pointless to think about power levels when things are as they are right now.
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rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
February 20 2013 02:33 GMT
#13264
why didn't madara get resurrected in the age where he died like the 3rd got resurrected as a old man, or like the puppet old hag fro the sand village? What about the first, someone managed to kill his ass or did he die of old age? if he's not old now it means he died of young age, meaning he got killed by someone
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Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
February 20 2013 02:36 GMT
#13265
On February 20 2013 11:33 rei wrote:
why didn't madara get resurrected in the age where he died like the 3rd got resurrected as a old man, or like the puppet old hag fro the sand village? What about the first, someone managed to kill his ass or did he die of old age? if he's not old now it means he died of young age, meaning he got killed by someone


Maybe it's whenever they got their DNA collected or whenever they died. Either way there are holes in the theory and it's better to just go with the flow on this one.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
DODswe4
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden2157 Posts
February 20 2013 02:58 GMT
#13266
On February 20 2013 11:33 rei wrote:
why didn't madara get resurrected in the age where he died like the 3rd got resurrected as a old man, or like the puppet old hag fro the sand village? What about the first, someone managed to kill his ass or did he die of old age? if he's not old now it means he died of young age, meaning he got killed by someone


regarding Madara kabuto have put cells from the first inside of him, thats why hes "young"
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
February 20 2013 03:01 GMT
#13267
Everyone so far (as far as we know) has been ressurected as they were when they died. For example nagato was revived with his white hair and inability to use his legs. The only exception has been madara who was "tampered" with by giving him hashirama's cells, allowing him not only to be revived in his prime but also with rinnegan powers and wood jutsu.

It's possible hashi died of old age and was revived young due to him being hashirama senju, the dude whose cells apparently are like the stem cells of the gods themselves...but we don't know that for sure yet. :p
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Dakkas
Profile Joined October 2010
2550 Posts
February 20 2013 03:30 GMT
#13268
On February 20 2013 09:45 Dark_Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 15:12 Dakkas wrote:
On February 14 2013 15:06 Dark_Chill wrote:
Kind of an unrelated question, but I was rereading zabuza arc... are they ever going to do anything about jutsu with 1 hand, or even none? Haku was supposed to be a genius because of it, but it hasn't been mentioned since.

Back to the present. How are the old ninja so damn strong? You'd think that with each new generation, they'd be getting stronger (developing/improving techniques). I thought the Raikage (probably prime of his life) was strong, but the kage before him in addition to all the hokage seem to overshadow him. For comparison's sake:
Sasuke faced the Raikage head on, almost killed him (maybe, damn you Gaara). Sasuke has a heart attack the instant The Second getting pissed off.
I don't think Sasuke (or anyone else) is needed to stop Madara. Just send the first second and third in there. If I remember correctly, the Third was stronger than the first in his prime, so with infinite chakra he should be pretty strong even in his state.


The Third was never stronger than the First. You're simply falling in the most common pitfall for Shounen, Hype and Feats/Capabilities. Hiruzen is almost entirely all hype, with little impressive showings because of his age. The First is a combination of both hype and feats


(Hiruzen was one of the most powerful shinobi in history, so much so that he was admired as the God of Shinobi (忍の神, Shinobi no Kami) in his prime, and was said to be the strongest Hokage that Konoha has ever had.)
-Taken from the wiki
But yeah, it is rather pointless to think about power levels when things are as they are right now.


Did you even read what I said? While I don't doubt Prime Hiruzen is one of the strongest, the only manga evidence of this is hype from Iruka. His greatest feat is redirecting Kyuubi's bijuudamas and using Edo Tensei on 1st/2nd/Orochimaru's arms, both are impressive however that's not enough to prove that he's the strongest Hokage.

GrapeApe
Profile Joined March 2011
1053 Posts
February 20 2013 03:50 GMT
#13269
...Yeah, but these are ninjas...if the 2nd was a pussy he would have never been granted the title of God. If all the strongest people recognize you as the strongest, even if you want to call it hype, you're the strongest.

I do mostly agree with what you're saying though. I've always wanted a prequel manga just to prove it.
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wongfeihung
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States763 Posts
February 20 2013 03:54 GMT
#13270
On February 20 2013 12:30 Dakkas wrote:
Did you even read what I said? While I don't doubt Prime Hiruzen is one of the strongest, the only manga evidence of this is hype from Iruka. His greatest feat is redirecting Kyuubi's bijuudamas and using Edo Tensei on 1st/2nd/Orochimaru's arms, both are impressive however that's not enough to prove that he's the strongest Hokage.

Two things here:

-As far as I can remember, Hiruzen never deflected a bijuu dama. Minato, however, transported the Kyuubi's bijuu dama during Tobi's attack on Konoha.

-Hiruzen has never used Edo Tensei. I'm assuming you meant that he used Shiki Fuujin on the first/second Hokage and Orochimaru.

That is all.
GrapeApe
Profile Joined March 2011
1053 Posts
February 20 2013 03:58 GMT
#13271
On February 20 2013 12:54 wongfeihung wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2013 12:30 Dakkas wrote:
Did you even read what I said? While I don't doubt Prime Hiruzen is one of the strongest, the only manga evidence of this is hype from Iruka. His greatest feat is redirecting Kyuubi's bijuudamas and using Edo Tensei on 1st/2nd/Orochimaru's arms, both are impressive however that's not enough to prove that he's the strongest Hokage.



-Hiruzen has never used Edo Tensei. I'm assuming you meant that he used Shiki Fuujin on the first/second Hokage and Orochimaru.

That is all.


Didn't he create it? I could totally be mistaken.
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DODswe4
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden2157 Posts
February 20 2013 04:04 GMT
#13272
On February 20 2013 12:58 GrapeApe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2013 12:54 wongfeihung wrote:
On February 20 2013 12:30 Dakkas wrote:
Did you even read what I said? While I don't doubt Prime Hiruzen is one of the strongest, the only manga evidence of this is hype from Iruka. His greatest feat is redirecting Kyuubi's bijuudamas and using Edo Tensei on 1st/2nd/Orochimaru's arms, both are impressive however that's not enough to prove that he's the strongest Hokage.



-Hiruzen has never used Edo Tensei. I'm assuming you meant that he used Shiki Fuujin on the first/second Hokage and Orochimaru.

That is all.


Didn't he create it? I could totally be mistaken.


the second Hokage made Edo Tensei
Dakkas
Profile Joined October 2010
2550 Posts
February 20 2013 08:00 GMT
#13273
On February 20 2013 12:54 wongfeihung wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2013 12:30 Dakkas wrote:
Did you even read what I said? While I don't doubt Prime Hiruzen is one of the strongest, the only manga evidence of this is hype from Iruka. His greatest feat is redirecting Kyuubi's bijuudamas and using Edo Tensei on 1st/2nd/Orochimaru's arms, both are impressive however that's not enough to prove that he's the strongest Hokage.

Two things here:

-As far as I can remember, Hiruzen never deflected a bijuu dama. Minato, however, transported the Kyuubi's bijuu dama during Tobi's attack on Konoha.

-Hiruzen has never used Edo Tensei. I'm assuming you meant that he used Shiki Fuujin on the first/second Hokage and Orochimaru.

That is all.


- Reread Naruto's birth, before Minato joins in defending Kyuubi's attack it is Hiruzen that's stopping the bijuudamas blowing up Konoha

- You're right, I meant Shiki Fuujin, not Edo Tensei
Ficetool
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany165 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-20 09:02:31
February 20 2013 09:01 GMT
#13274
http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/621 is up =)

edit: or not...only the covers so far -.- Excitement got the better of me
Lovedrop
Profile Joined April 2010
2629 Posts
February 20 2013 09:05 GMT
#13275
Flashback of a flashback so meta
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acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
February 20 2013 09:06 GMT
#13276
Madara's so powerful Kishimoto needs two flashbacks to kill him.
Ficetool
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany165 Posts
February 20 2013 09:07 GMT
#13277
On February 20 2013 18:06 acker wrote:
Madara's so powerful Kishimoto needs two flashbacks to kill him.


HAHA :D That was a good one^^
phodacbiet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1740 Posts
February 20 2013 09:10 GMT
#13278
IT IS UP!
imnestle
Profile Joined January 2013
46 Posts
February 20 2013 09:11 GMT
#13279
On February 20 2013 18:06 acker wrote:
Madara's so powerful Kishimoto needs two flashbacks to kill him.


hahaha :D this is actualy funny


this chapter was a lil bit boring but First Hokage.... HOLY ARMS :D that thing looks cool
phodacbiet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1740 Posts
February 20 2013 09:14 GMT
#13280
Wait what? There is a flashback of a flash back? Can you even do that?
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