On February 14 2013 17:44 iKill[ShocK] wrote: calling it now sasuke will fight the 1st hokage. it equalizes with naruto having to fight madara
yeah right, sasuke against 1st hokage at first power isn't even a fight. madara at his peak without hashi's cell, lost to hashirama in an epic battle, sasuke right now in no way or form can keep up against that.
Probably. Sasuke hasn´t fought for real since he took Itachis eyes, getting new eyes is supposed to give him a huge power-up, but I don´t think it´s enough for the 1st. Weird, Sasuke is supposed to be Narutos rival, but he´s been falling behind ever since Danzo died.
I love the 1st Hokage. He's such an interesting personality. I haven't been that excited about Naruto for the past few months, but I'm definitely feeling hyped now.
On February 14 2013 22:03 b3n3tt3 wrote: well since 1st hokage can do whatever he wants, I think he could the the unseal jutsu that madara did and... go to war
They're both going to be sent to another dimension and keep fighting forever with infinite charka and infinite regeneration
On February 14 2013 17:44 iKill[ShocK] wrote: calling it now sasuke will fight the 1st hokage. it equalizes with naruto having to fight madara
yeah right, sasuke against 1st hokage at first power isn't even a fight. madara at his peak without hashi's cell, lost to hashirama in an epic battle, sasuke right now in no way or form can keep up against that.
Probably. Sasuke hasn´t fought for real since he took Itachis eyes, getting new eyes is supposed to give him a huge power-up, but I don´t think it´s enough for the 1st. Weird, Sasuke is supposed to be Narutos rival, but he´s been falling behind ever since Danzo died.
LOL not to mention madara had kyuubi vs hashirama, there's no way sasuke could go toe to toe with a monster like that.
I don't know if I am missing something but I think the second hokage had the opportunity to break the "contract" between him and Orochimaru (via edo tensei). http://www.mangareader.net/naruto/591/17
Your link didn't work, but I'm pretty sure I'm looking at the same page on a different reader. (http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/620/11) I don't think that is the case though. I think that if the pannel artist(s) wanted to make that clear, which they probably would, Orochimaru would have been shown first setting them in place for Sasuke's conversation, but didn't. I think it is possible that Orochimaru may have put a small amount of chakra in the jutsu to keep them from being able to instantly attack/kill and that may have been overcome, but when Orochimaru actually does the hand signs he isn't concerned at all. Rather, he is quite pleased with himself and doesn't look as though he is exerting any effort at all. He doesn't begin to look concerned at all until the first breaks control, but even then it is a look that doesn't indicate fear. If the second had easily broken the jutsu I should think he would look differently.
he said the first had been moving on his own free will for wuite a while immediately after he stops the second from escaping, also the same SFX used to show the 2nd was unable to move was used when the third was saying "this jutsu..."
On February 15 2013 03:52 Levistus wrote: i want the 4 hokages team up and join in the war! it would be so awesome.
Nah that'd be too DBZ, instead... I want the first and second to preform fusion and become the 12th. Then Naruto absorbs his dad and becomes Fouruto. The 12 and Fouruto merge to become 48-o. Meanwhile, Madra and tobi fuse to become mega madra and absorb the 10 tails to become 10-dra. On the other side, the 3rd gets too old and goes senile so he betrays his friends and uses his 3 powers to diminish 48-o into 16-o. So then 16-o and 10-dra face off and both die. Out of their corpses comes 6-odra, the reincarnation of the sage of the 6 paths who will bring peace to the ninja world for the rest of time. This is the ending, calling it now.
On February 15 2013 03:52 Levistus wrote: i want the 4 hokages team up and join in the war! it would be so awesome.
Nah that'd be too DBZ, instead... I want the first and second to preform fusion and become the 12th. Then Naruto absorbs his dad and becomes Fouruto. The 12 and Fouruto merge to become 48-o. Meanwhile, Madra and tobi fuse to become mega madra and absorb the 10 tails to become 10-dra. On the other side, the 3rd gets too old and goes senile so he betrays his friends and uses his 3 powers to diminish 48-o into 16-o. So then 16-o and 10-dra face off and both die. Out of their corpses comes 6-odra, the reincarnation of the sage of the 6 paths who will bring peace to the ninja world for the rest of time. This is the ending, calling it now.
I was kinda hoping the 1st would summon his Dragon and restore everyone back to life after the war while a good reincarnation of Madara is born, named Aradam. Who is then trained by our hero Naruto, who turns down the post of Hokage after making babies with Hinata.
I just realized... Naruto is an uzamaki, a distant relative to the senju. Originally, the byakugan was believed to be somehow be distantly related to the sharingan by some weird mutation or whatnot.
Senju + uchiha Naruto + hinata
Conincidence? I think not. Naruto will give birth to a new generation of sages after using his mass shadow clone technique with hinata. He'll give hinata some kyuubi chakra so she can do mass shadow clones too, and naruto already knows the female anatomy (his sexy jutsu he's used all his life)....it makes so much sense. Bow chick wow wow.
On February 15 2013 17:51 BlackPaladin wrote: I just realized... Naruto is an uzamaki, a distant relative to the senju. Originally, the byakugan was believed to be somehow be distantly related to the sharingan by some weird mutation or whatnot.
Senju + uchiha Naruto + hinata
Conincidence? I think not. Naruto will give birth to a new generation of sages after using his mass shadow clone technique with hinata. He'll give hinata some kyuubi chakra so she can do mass shadow clones too, and naruto already knows the female anatomy (his sexy jutsu he's used all his life)....it makes so much sense. Bow chick wow wow.
It's a joke. As in, not serious at all. Everyone else was making bad references so might as well just throw out something so horribly mind rotting that you want to rip your eyes out afterwards from reading it.
I just really hope kishi gets sauske to stop being an emo prick one of these days. Ever since the valley of the end he's been so retarded it's unbelieveable. Like he made sense back then....wanted to go off to become strong and avenge his clan. Then he just became dumber and dumber, and kishi tries to push it off as an uchiha curse. x_x What ever happened to mangas having villians that made sense in their motivations and didn't seem like a star wars prequal where everyone is just stupid? >_> I have hopes with how sauske is going out of his way to learn the truth that he'll actually grow a brain, but if he still conculdes with "destroy the leaf" tables will be flipped.
On February 15 2013 18:24 BlackPaladin wrote: It's a joke. As in, not serious at all. Everyone else was making bad references so might as well just throw out something so horribly mind rotting that you want to rip your eyes out afterwards from reading it.
I just really hope kishi gets sauske to stop being an emo prick one of these days. Ever since the valley of the end he's been so retarded it's unbelieveable. Like he made sense back then....wanted to go off to become strong and avenge his clan. Then he just became dumber and dumber, and kishi tries to push it off as an uchiha curse. x_x What ever happened to mangas having villians that made sense in their motivations and didn't seem like a star wars prequal where everyone is just stupid? >_> I have hopes with how sauske is going out of his way to learn the truth that he'll actually grow a brain, but if he still conculdes with "destroy the leaf" tables will be flipped.
Too bad being an emo is terminal for the uchiha clan. I am so sorry for them. Also sorry for your loss. All the interesting characters are (technically) dead.
Hashi only fought EMS Madara and Kyubii, Mads didn't obtain the rinnegan until old age and Kabuto gave him Hashi DNA to boost him even more. The current Madara is much stronger than Hashi was when he was living.
Madara didnt go all out at all while fighting the Hokages, and only used the Rinnegan power once Hashirama fought a Madara much stronger then what Madara has showed
This Susanoo is only possible because Edo Madara's infinite chakra and greatly enhanced body. The one shown in the recent chapter was probably the limit of his at the time.
no its not the Edo Tensei doesnt really make them stronger, Madara could still pull taht off before he even specifically saids so the the Kages
Granted everything madara has shown so far is nothing in comparison to his full power with hashi's cells + rinnegan. He's basically just stood around eating popcorn while everyone around him dies, so when he's really forced to struggle and fight for real I'm sure he's going to go super sharinganjin 3 (ssj3) or some shit. Hashi is probably as strong as madara has shown to be so far, aka able to beat the 5 kages alone. But I don't think hashi is anywhere near in power to zombie madara. Naruto is probably going to be the one doing what hashi can't and beat zombie madara to make the new generation look better than the old.
Hashirama is as strong as Madara and the both of them are strong enough that the Kyuubi doesnt really make that much of an impact int he fight (Hashirama jsut summons wood dragon and leaves dealing with the Kyuubi to it)
quite frankly if Obito hadnt summoned the Jyuubi early the manga would be over, the only reason the alliance is doing so well is because Madara needs to use his power to keep the Jyuubi in control and they cant use the Jyuubis full power because it would kill Obito
It's not like anything is supposed to be a challenge for them aside from very few exceptions. How somebody managed to off Hashirama is still one of the unexplained mysteries in the series. If it'll ever be explained, it's probably going to be stupid.
old age? side effect of wood ninjutsu? played with fire too much?
Tsunade said her regen tech shaves away at her life, maybe Hashiramas signless Jutsu did the same and the scars from Madara combines with all the times he had to heal simply made his body unable to live past 60
I am not sure what manga you are reading, Madara already stated that he did not even awaken rinnegan until near death at old age and he was basically just EMS Sasuke level when he fought Hashi. And Kabuto also specifically told Madara that his body was boosted way beyond his prime so your points are invalid. Herp derp derp. http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/560/3 http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/560/15
Hashi only fought EMS Madara and Kyubii, Mads didn't obtain the rinnegan until old age and Kabuto gave him Hashi DNA to boost him even more. The current Madara is much stronger than Hashi was when he was living.
Madara didnt go all out at all while fighting the Hokages, and only used the Rinnegan power once Hashirama fought a Madara much stronger then what Madara has showed
This Susanoo is only possible because Edo Madara's infinite chakra and greatly enhanced body. The one shown in the recent chapter was probably the limit of his at the time.
no its not the Edo Tensei doesnt really make them stronger, Madara could still pull taht off before he even specifically saids so the the Kages
Granted everything madara has shown so far is nothing in comparison to his full power with hashi's cells + rinnegan. He's basically just stood around eating popcorn while everyone around him dies, so when he's really forced to struggle and fight for real I'm sure he's going to go super sharinganjin 3 (ssj3) or some shit. Hashi is probably as strong as madara has shown to be so far, aka able to beat the 5 kages alone. But I don't think hashi is anywhere near in power to zombie madara. Naruto is probably going to be the one doing what hashi can't and beat zombie madara to make the new generation look better than the old.
Hashirama is as strong as Madara and the both of them are strong enough that the Kyuubi doesnt really make that much of an impact int he fight (Hashirama jsut summons wood dragon and leaves dealing with the Kyuubi to it)
quite frankly if Obito hadnt summoned the Jyuubi early the manga would be over, the only reason the alliance is doing so well is because Madara needs to use his power to keep the Jyuubi in control and they cant use the Jyuubis full power because it would kill Obito
It's not like anything is supposed to be a challenge for them aside from very few exceptions. How somebody managed to off Hashirama is still one of the unexplained mysteries in the series. If it'll ever be explained, it's probably going to be stupid.
old age? side effect of wood ninjutsu? played with fire too much?
Tsunade said her regen tech shaves away at her life, maybe Hashiramas signless Jutsu did the same and the scars from Madara combines with all the times he had to heal simply made his body unable to live past 60
I am not sure what manga you are reading, Madara already stated that he did not even awaken rinnegan until near death at old age and he was basically just EMS Sasuke level when he fought Hashi. And Kabuto also specifically told Madara that his body was boosted way beyond his prime so your points are invalid. Herp derp derp. http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/560/3 http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/560/15
i dont think Kabuto would be able to boost Madaras ability enough to compensate for Madara not having a tag team with the Kyuubi
and the Rinnegan abilities are largely useless against Edo Tensei Hashirama since Jutsu sucking, revival and info paths are all useless so taht leaves summoning, asura and magnet
all-in-all theres no evidence that Hashirama in his state couldnt still fight Madara to a stand still easily
On February 16 2013 01:17 Darkren wrote: Can somebody explain to me why are the hokages like 100X more powerfull than the kages from the other clans?
I still dont understand why i keep reading the manga i think ive hated the last 200 chapters
because there not, only the first and second are disgustingly powerful and thats only because there from the god generation that included Madara, the other villages dont have people from taht generation
On February 14 2013 23:07 jcvf wrote: I don't know if I am missing something but I think the second hokage had the opportunity to break the "contract" between him and Orochimaru (via edo tensei). http://www.mangareader.net/naruto/591/17
man you just wrote something that was the entire time in my head and i couldnt answer it on my own... glad that im not the only one that got confused by that " you cant break it" when the 2nd tried .... also i dont understand why the best and strongest shinobi of all time (1st hokage) cant free himself from it too... seems stupid to me
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