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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
April 11 2012 17:51 GMT
#8581
On April 12 2012 02:49 Azuzu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 02:27 Forikorder wrote:
On April 12 2012 02:23 Azuzu wrote:
I like story progression but developing a character that will most likely die in the next 3 chapters just to make his death feel more meaningful doesn't really do it for me.

if he was a new character id agree with you but Kabuto is a pretty old character who deserves soem progression


I think that's my problem. He's been around forever, so his progression has been happening for basically the entire manga. Why isn't that enough? Why all of sudden do we have to go back to when he was a poor orphan that had to be cared for just before his inevitable defeat?

because we learned literally nothing about him at all for the entire time he was in the manga

his name is Kabuto and he worships Orichimaru thats all we ever learned about him
suxN
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
Finland1167 Posts
April 11 2012 18:17 GMT
#8582
I dont mind story, but oh for christs sake i do mind these emo "You dont know anything - i was nothing booboo" characters.
I dont want to be totally out :3
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
April 11 2012 18:20 GMT
#8583
On April 12 2012 03:17 suxN wrote:
I dont mind story, but oh for christs sake i do mind these emo "You dont know anything - i was nothing booboo" characters.


It's so we can have splash pages of him dying and looking up at the sun shining in the sky, and the ghostly image of the kind woman who gave him her glasses will appear and smile at him, and then there will be inspirational and emotional last words on a blank panel
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
April 11 2012 18:23 GMT
#8584
On April 12 2012 03:20 Kyuukyuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 03:17 suxN wrote:
I dont mind story, but oh for christs sake i do mind these emo "You dont know anything - i was nothing booboo" characters.


It's so we can have splash pages of him dying and looking up at the sun shining in the sky, and the ghostly image of the kind woman who gave him her glasses will appear and smile at him, and then there will be inspirational and emotional last words on a blank panel

or maybe hell jsut get his mind crushed by Itachi and theyll be a spread of his sight slowly turning black
Probe.
Profile Joined May 2009
United States877 Posts
April 11 2012 18:32 GMT
#8585
The problem with Naruto is there is like 500 chapters to build story but they decide they can only develop a villain in a flash back 5 minutes before he dies.
meow
InFdude
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Bulgaria619 Posts
April 11 2012 18:36 GMT
#8586
--- Nuked ---
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
April 11 2012 18:53 GMT
#8587
On April 12 2012 03:36 InFdude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 02:36 Forikorder wrote:
On April 12 2012 02:35 Requizen wrote:
On April 12 2012 02:27 Forikorder wrote:
On April 12 2012 02:23 Azuzu wrote:
I like story progression but developing a character that will most likely die in the next 3 chapters just to make his death feel more meaningful doesn't really do it for me.

if he was a new character id agree with you but Kabuto is a pretty old character who deserves soem progression

Eh, he was never really a relevant character though. I don't like how they did him, he was a flunkie, then someone who was working behind the scenes, now he's suddenly the single strongest ninja in the world for no apparent reason? I really don't care :\

well he did effectively do the fusion dance with Orochimaru and spend a long time training

also "single strongest ninja"? not by a long shot hes one of the strongest but no where close to single strongest

If you only take into consideration only his pvp skills that he is showing vs Itachi and Sasuke...sure not the strongest but one of the strongest. But if you look at it this way - can someone beat Kabuto + all the dead guys he controls with edo tensei? Just imagine every single guy he summoned ganking up on some poor bastard that has to defeat them all + Kabuto in the same time. Personally I can't think of anyone alive who can do that.

but that doesnt make Kabuto the strongest ninja just the boss of the strongest army

it would be like saiying the Daimyo of fire is the strongest person in the series since he controls the leaf village
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
April 11 2012 19:04 GMT
#8588
Lamest chapter I've seen in a long, long time.
Revolutionist fan
Kvz
Profile Joined March 2010
United States463 Posts
April 11 2012 19:12 GMT
#8589
im sad nothing happened
NrG.Kvz
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
April 11 2012 19:35 GMT
#8590
Guys you don't understand. Those flashbacks weren't flashbacks. That is Itachi using Izanami.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
April 11 2012 19:36 GMT
#8591
On April 12 2012 04:35 EtherealDeath wrote:
Guys you don't understand. Those flashbacks weren't flashbacks. That is Itachi using Izanami.

more like Inzeption
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
April 11 2012 20:04 GMT
#8592
On April 12 2012 04:36 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 04:35 EtherealDeath wrote:
Guys you don't understand. Those flashbacks weren't flashbacks. That is Itachi using Izanami.

more like Inzeption


you officially won this thread until next week's disappointing chapter
iSometric
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
2221 Posts
April 11 2012 20:37 GMT
#8593
Another useless chapter.
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Cush
Profile Joined September 2010
United States646 Posts
April 11 2012 20:59 GMT
#8594
On April 12 2012 04:36 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 04:35 EtherealDeath wrote:
Guys you don't understand. Those flashbacks weren't flashbacks. That is Itachi using Izanami.

more like Inzeption

I lol'd
"That's not your main base Stardust.....Stardust.....that's not your main" Sayle
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
April 11 2012 21:01 GMT
#8595
On April 12 2012 04:35 EtherealDeath wrote:
Guys you don't understand. Those flashbacks weren't flashbacks. That is Itachi using Izanami.


LOL. That comment alone redeemed the chapter fully....the possibilities!
0kz
Profile Joined January 2010
Italy1118 Posts
April 11 2012 22:00 GMT
#8596
O wow... this is going so sloooow
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
April 11 2012 22:16 GMT
#8597
On April 12 2012 01:30 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 01:21 Forbidden17 wrote:
On April 12 2012 00:59 Forikorder wrote:
i dont get why people seem to think every chapter should be non-stop action

we don't, we just don't expect the exact opposite of "non-stop action"

god forbid Naruto spends a couple chapters working on the story


This wouldn't be a problem if the story was good lol. You seem to be in favor of this chapter, so please tell me: what did this chapter accomplish? I'll remind you that we already knew Kabuto was an orphan picked up from a war by a medical ninja. We also already knew he was alone and without purpose until Orochimaru picked him up (which is why he idolizes the guy).
So tell me, what was the importance of this chapter? Granted, come next week this info may be used to convince that it was entirely necessary to the next chapter, but somehow, I doubt it goes past the "feel sympathetic for me because villains with feelings are way better characters".
Now there may be some of you who say that characters need development to actually matter, and that's what happened here. But character development for the sake of character development, especially when this was pretty much already known, is not good story telling. We can even see a relatively good example a few chapters ago: Sasuke and Itachi taking down the boar. It gave us more info about their relationship and had a direct relation to what was going on (using the move they had used before).
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
April 11 2012 22:40 GMT
#8598
On April 12 2012 07:16 Dark_Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 01:30 Forikorder wrote:
On April 12 2012 01:21 Forbidden17 wrote:
On April 12 2012 00:59 Forikorder wrote:
i dont get why people seem to think every chapter should be non-stop action

we don't, we just don't expect the exact opposite of "non-stop action"

god forbid Naruto spends a couple chapters working on the story


This wouldn't be a problem if the story was good lol. You seem to be in favor of this chapter, so please tell me: what did this chapter accomplish? I'll remind you that we already knew Kabuto was an orphan picked up from a war by a medical ninja. We also already knew he was alone and without purpose until Orochimaru picked him up (which is why he idolizes the guy).
So tell me, what was the importance of this chapter? Granted, come next week this info may be used to convince that it was entirely necessary to the next chapter, but somehow, I doubt it goes past the "feel sympathetic for me because villains with feelings are way better characters".
Now there may be some of you who say that characters need development to actually matter, and that's what happened here. But character development for the sake of character development, especially when this was pretty much already known, is not good story telling. We can even see a relatively good example a few chapters ago: Sasuke and Itachi taking down the boar. It gave us more info about their relationship and had a direct relation to what was going on (using the move they had used before).

you cant look at the very start of the flashback and say its not worth watching

what we dont know is how he got to Konoha, wasnt he adopted by a famous family? why did he decide to abandon Konoha? howd he start being a spy for the Akatsuki?

theres still alot of unknown about Kabuto, knowing he was adopted isnt very detailed back story
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
April 11 2012 22:49 GMT
#8599
On April 12 2012 06:01 Slardar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 04:35 EtherealDeath wrote:
Guys you don't understand. Those flashbacks weren't flashbacks. That is Itachi using Izanami.


LOL. That comment alone redeemed the chapter fully....the possibilities!


But you know it will only disappoint in the end.
ZerO_0
Profile Joined October 2011
United States137 Posts
April 12 2012 01:41 GMT
#8600
Another awful chapter where nothing happens. Just get to find out more about Kabuto and surprise he is emo too just like every other character in this manga.
We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence then, is not an act, but a habit. Aristotle
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