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On April 12 2012 02:49 Azuzu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2012 02:27 Forikorder wrote:On April 12 2012 02:23 Azuzu wrote:
I like story progression but developing a character that will most likely die in the next 3 chapters just to make his death feel more meaningful doesn't really do it for me. if he was a new character id agree with you but Kabuto is a pretty old character who deserves soem progression I think that's my problem. He's been around forever, so his progression has been happening for basically the entire manga. Why isn't that enough? Why all of sudden do we have to go back to when he was a poor orphan that had to be cared for just before his inevitable defeat?
because we learned literally nothing about him at all for the entire time he was in the manga
his name is Kabuto and he worships Orichimaru thats all we ever learned about him
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I dont mind story, but oh for christs sake i do mind these emo "You dont know anything - i was nothing booboo" characters.
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On April 12 2012 03:17 suxN wrote:
I dont mind story, but oh for christs sake i do mind these emo "You dont know anything - i was nothing booboo" characters.
It's so we can have splash pages of him dying and looking up at the sun shining in the sky, and the ghostly image of the kind woman who gave him her glasses will appear and smile at him, and then there will be inspirational and emotional last words on a blank panel
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On April 12 2012 03:20 Kyuukyuu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2012 03:17 suxN wrote:
I dont mind story, but oh for christs sake i do mind these emo "You dont know anything - i was nothing booboo" characters. It's so we can have splash pages of him dying and looking up at the sun shining in the sky, and the ghostly image of the kind woman who gave him her glasses will appear and smile at him, and then there will be inspirational and emotional last words on a blank panel
or maybe hell jsut get his mind crushed by Itachi and theyll be a spread of his sight slowly turning black
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The problem with Naruto is there is like 500 chapters to build story but they decide they can only develop a villain in a flash back 5 minutes before he dies.
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On April 12 2012 03:36 InFdude wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2012 02:36 Forikorder wrote:On April 12 2012 02:35 Requizen wrote:On April 12 2012 02:27 Forikorder wrote:On April 12 2012 02:23 Azuzu wrote:
I like story progression but developing a character that will most likely die in the next 3 chapters just to make his death feel more meaningful doesn't really do it for me. if he was a new character id agree with you but Kabuto is a pretty old character who deserves soem progression Eh, he was never really a relevant character though. I don't like how they did him, he was a flunkie, then someone who was working behind the scenes, now he's suddenly the single strongest ninja in the world for no apparent reason? I really don't care :\ well he did effectively do the fusion dance with Orochimaru and spend a long time training also "single strongest ninja"? not by a long shot hes one of the strongest but no where close to single strongest If you only take into consideration only his pvp skills that he is showing vs Itachi and Sasuke...sure not the strongest but one of the strongest. But if you look at it this way - can someone beat Kabuto + all the dead guys he controls with edo tensei? Just imagine every single guy he summoned ganking up on some poor bastard that has to defeat them all + Kabuto in the same time. Personally I can't think of anyone alive who can do that.
but that doesnt make Kabuto the strongest ninja just the boss of the strongest army
it would be like saiying the Daimyo of fire is the strongest person in the series since he controls the leaf village
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Lamest chapter I've seen in a long, long time.
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im sad nothing happened 
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Guys you don't understand. Those flashbacks weren't flashbacks. That is Itachi using Izanami.
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On April 12 2012 04:35 EtherealDeath wrote:
Guys you don't understand. Those flashbacks weren't flashbacks. That is Itachi using Izanami.
more like Inzeption
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On April 12 2012 04:36 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2012 04:35 EtherealDeath wrote:
Guys you don't understand. Those flashbacks weren't flashbacks. That is Itachi using Izanami. more like Inzeption
you officially won this thread until next week's disappointing chapter
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On April 12 2012 04:36 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2012 04:35 EtherealDeath wrote:
Guys you don't understand. Those flashbacks weren't flashbacks. That is Itachi using Izanami. more like Inzeption
I lol'd
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On April 12 2012 04:35 EtherealDeath wrote:
Guys you don't understand. Those flashbacks weren't flashbacks. That is Itachi using Izanami.
LOL. That comment alone redeemed the chapter fully....the possibilities!
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O wow... this is going so sloooow 
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On April 12 2012 01:30 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2012 01:21 Forbidden17 wrote:On April 12 2012 00:59 Forikorder wrote:
i dont get why people seem to think every chapter should be non-stop action we don't, we just don't expect the exact opposite of "non-stop action" god forbid Naruto spends a couple chapters working on the story
This wouldn't be a problem if the story was good lol. You seem to be in favor of this chapter, so please tell me: what did this chapter accomplish? I'll remind you that we already knew Kabuto was an orphan picked up from a war by a medical ninja. We also already knew he was alone and without purpose until Orochimaru picked him up (which is why he idolizes the guy).
So tell me, what was the importance of this chapter? Granted, come next week this info may be used to convince that it was entirely necessary to the next chapter, but somehow, I doubt it goes past the "feel sympathetic for me because villains with feelings are way better characters".
Now there may be some of you who say that characters need development to actually matter, and that's what happened here. But character development for the sake of character development, especially when this was pretty much already known, is not good story telling. We can even see a relatively good example a few chapters ago: Sasuke and Itachi taking down the boar. It gave us more info about their relationship and had a direct relation to what was going on (using the move they had used before).
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On April 12 2012 07:16 Dark_Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2012 01:30 Forikorder wrote:On April 12 2012 01:21 Forbidden17 wrote:On April 12 2012 00:59 Forikorder wrote:
i dont get why people seem to think every chapter should be non-stop action we don't, we just don't expect the exact opposite of "non-stop action" god forbid Naruto spends a couple chapters working on the story This wouldn't be a problem if the story was good lol. You seem to be in favor of this chapter, so please tell me: what did this chapter accomplish? I'll remind you that we already knew Kabuto was an orphan picked up from a war by a medical ninja. We also already knew he was alone and without purpose until Orochimaru picked him up (which is why he idolizes the guy). So tell me, what was the importance of this chapter? Granted, come next week this info may be used to convince that it was entirely necessary to the next chapter, but somehow, I doubt it goes past the "feel sympathetic for me because villains with feelings are way better characters". Now there may be some of you who say that characters need development to actually matter, and that's what happened here. But character development for the sake of character development, especially when this was pretty much already known, is not good story telling. We can even see a relatively good example a few chapters ago: Sasuke and Itachi taking down the boar. It gave us more info about their relationship and had a direct relation to what was going on (using the move they had used before).
you cant look at the very start of the flashback and say its not worth watching
what we dont know is how he got to Konoha, wasnt he adopted by a famous family? why did he decide to abandon Konoha? howd he start being a spy for the Akatsuki?
theres still alot of unknown about Kabuto, knowing he was adopted isnt very detailed back story
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On April 12 2012 06:01 Slardar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2012 04:35 EtherealDeath wrote:
Guys you don't understand. Those flashbacks weren't flashbacks. That is Itachi using Izanami. LOL. That comment alone redeemed the chapter fully....the possibilities!
But you know it will only disappoint in the end.
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Another awful chapter where nothing happens. Just get to find out more about Kabuto and surprise he is emo too just like every other character in this manga.
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