"whatever..."
"And he can also use Wood Jutsu""
"Wood? We're doomed!"
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Fenrax
United States5018 Posts
"whatever..." "And he can also use Wood Jutsu"" "Wood? We're doomed!" | ||
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RogerX
New Zealand3180 Posts
And Madara checking out his boobs, lol, hes actually female. | ||
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Existential
Australia2107 Posts
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saocyn
United States937 Posts
- where and how did kabuto find the remains of madara if he didn't die after the battle - what power did he pickup from the 1st hokage to be abel to live after it - how the F did he just summon a forest by "releasing" it in a grave yard destroyed by his meteor. the forest didn't come from his body so there is no release nor do i see it capable from a wasteland | ||
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acker
United States2958 Posts
On October 27 2011 19:37 Existential wrote: Can someone tell me what makes Wood release so 'powerful?' I really do wonder how the 1st beat Madara with wood release... I think it was supposed to be ridiculously good at sealing enemies. Like that's why Yamato was assigned to Naruto's team, to make sure the Kyuubi couldn't escape. | ||
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saocyn
United States937 Posts
On October 27 2011 19:37 Existential wrote: Can someone tell me what makes Wood release so 'powerful?' I really do wonder how the 1st beat Madara with wood release... yeah the sound of wood beating anything sounds retarded honestly but apparently wood can control biju like the end all technique of doing it even against madara. it's binding power is obviously the best cause from what we've seen if sand can bind down susano, wood can do it too probably better since it can bind down biju. it also works like how gaaras sand works by pulling madara out of his susano. | ||
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Quartal
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ChrisXIV
Austria3553 Posts
Wood Jutsu looks...weak. Seems like Madara would be better off using his flame element for offense. | ||
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adiga
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Paperplane
Netherlands1823 Posts
On October 27 2011 19:37 Existential wrote: Can someone tell me what makes Wood release so 'powerful?' I really do wonder how the 1st beat Madara with wood release... I think that if you have the fully powered Wood release you can use bijuu like a kuchiyose. Aight time for battle, kuchiyose no jutsu x 3. Sup guys got 3 tailed beasts as minions gl hf lol! Pure speculation but it kind of sounds like the 1st hokage could do that. | ||
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brachester
Australia1786 Posts
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aimaimaim
Philippines2167 Posts
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EunhaK
France22 Posts
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zhurai
United States5660 Posts
On October 27 2011 19:57 EunhaK wrote: danzo must be the fake madara fighting himself must be cool | ||
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Gummy
United States2180 Posts
On October 27 2011 19:21 acker wrote: + Show Spoiler + An explanation for the Rinnegan. Kyuubi ex machina. Both of which make perfect sense. Holy crap, Kishimoto. Show nested quote + On October 27 2011 19:09 absalom86 wrote: Can Naruto's clones shadow clone themselves further ? and can one Naruto clone really use that much chakra ? Cloneception. I'm having trouble believing that a clone of Naruto is this OP. Sasuke is completely screwed unless Uchiha-imba kicks in again. Which it will. I seriously don't understand how a Naruto clone can be so OP. How can a clone even draw from the nine-tails chakra??? The whole point of shadow clones is the conservation of chakra, otherwise you can just create infinite shadow clones, by using Kyuubi powerup on each one to create more shadow clones, with nondecreasing power for the shadow clones. Then he just takes one (times infinity) deep breaths and the entire atmosphere of the earth disappears momentarily. Alternatively, he can create infinity rasengans and just destroy the entire surface of the earth instantaneously so that everybody will be dead and can't be influenced by the moon bullshit. Also, since this universe has no apparent conservation of space or mass, Naruto can turn his heavily dodgeable thrown attack and positionally-dependent melee ownage infinitely more effective: He creates a RecursionProgramJutsu that in every inductive step, creates a shadow clone of himself and transforms into a Kunai, taking the parent caster and placing it into its holster. The yellow-haired kid that's walking around is a clone, and he's nested in the infinitieth level of recursion (in the holster of the kunai of the holser of the kunai....). The shadow clone then throws a single kunai, and at each stage when the enemy dodges, the kunai turns into the next shadow clone and tosses the next kunai. Either the kunai makes it into point blank range, at which point the kunai turns into an infinity Naruto's and proceeds to unleash instantaneous whoopass, or the dude keeps dodging and is quickly surrounded on all sides in all three dimensions by Narutos, at which point they proceed to unleash instantaneous whoopass. Such an imba justu can only be hard countered by Tobi no Invincibility Jutsu or soft-countered by Edo Tensei, which can repel the Kunai before reaching point-blank range. In the latter case, Naruto can still, with good execution, come out with an advantage if instead of throwing the kunai directly at the Edo Tensei spammer, throws the kunai at an incident angle of 90 minus epsilon so that even with outward pushing Edo Tensi, Naruto quickly encircles him. Once encircled, since Edo Tensei can only push in two directions, either directly toward the center or outwards, and with finite force and frequency, at this point, the kunais need only point all towards the edo tensei user. With each outward burst, the kunai turns into a dude Naruto who is now way heavier, and throws the way lighter new kunai towards the center of the circle. Slowly but surely, the kunai will make their way to the center of the circle from every conceivable angle, so dodging is impossible. Then upon reaching melee range, Naruto can proceed to unleash instantaneous whoopass. This also works as a fantastic escape mechanism in the event that Naruto must conquer a user of God-no-jutsu. Using the same concept by which he can advance against an arbitrarily powerful Edo Tensei user, he can toss kunai in the opposite direction to flee even the most speedy pursuer. Each of these Kunai can then throw child Kunais, ad infinitum. Soon you have the entire universe (or at least the observable light-cone) filled with Kunai clones, and only one of the Kunais is actually Naruto. Since shadow clones are indistinguishable in every way from the original, the only way for the user of God-no-jutsu to properly discover and destroy the proper Kunai is to actually destroy the entire universe in a manner that exceeds the speed of light, which is only possible if Tobi uses mass shadow clones and distributes them randomly via wormholes all around the universe. But if he could do this, he could simply build a temperature-filled oxygen-rich chamber on Mars as his eternal, unwipeable "save point." If something goes badly for Tobi, he can just teleport between his own location on Earth and his Martian chamber repeatedly until he had gone back far in time until right after he completed the chamber and try again. Also, while he is in the chamber, since he can take it with him, he can go back in time arbitrarily far, to essentially the beginning of the Universe. He can then go to right before the sage of 6 paths was born and set his save point there. Then he could destroy the ninja world before it had even been started by killing the sage in his infancy. He would have infinite tries to do so. Teleportation implies time travel. Time travel is just fucking imbalanced. Oh you're too strong? Well the bed on which your great great great grandparents made love wasn't.Steal the bedsheets, BAM! no sucky fucky. No you. | ||
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aimaimaim
Philippines2167 Posts
On October 27 2011 19:59 Gummy wrote: Show nested quote + On October 27 2011 19:21 acker wrote: + Show Spoiler + An explanation for the Rinnegan. Kyuubi ex machina. Both of which make perfect sense. Holy crap, Kishimoto. On October 27 2011 19:09 absalom86 wrote: Can Naruto's clones shadow clone themselves further ? and can one Naruto clone really use that much chakra ? Cloneception. I'm having trouble believing that a clone of Naruto is this OP. Sasuke is completely screwed unless Uchiha-imba kicks in again. Which it will. I seriously don't understand how a Naruto clone can be so OP. How can a clone even draw from the nine-tails chakra??? The whole point of shadow clones is the conservation of chakra, otherwise you can just create infinite shadow clones, by using Kyuubi powerup on each one to create more shadow clones, with nondecreasing power for the shadow clones. Then he just takes one (times infinity) deep breaths and the entire atmosphere of the earth disappears momentarily. Alternatively, he can create infinity rasengans and just destroy the entire surface of the earth instantaneously so that everybody will be dead and can't be influenced by the moon bullshit. Also, since this universe has no apparent conservation of space or mass, Naruto can turn his heavily dodgeable thrown attack and positionally-dependent melee ownage infinitely more effective: He creates a RecursionProgramJutsu that in every inductive step, creates a shadow clone of himself and transforms into a Kunai, taking the parent caster and placing it into its holster. The yellow-haired kid that's walking around is a clone, and he's nested in the infinitieth level of recursion (in the holster of the kunai of the holser of the kunai....). The shadow clone then throws a single kunai, and at each stage when the enemy dodges, the kunai turns into the next shadow clone and tosses the next kunai. Either the kunai makes it into point blank range, at which point the kunai turns into an infinity Naruto's and proceeds to unleash instantaneous whoopass, or the dude keeps dodging and is quickly surrounded on all sides in all three dimensions by Narutos, at which point they proceed to unleash instantaneous whoopass. Such an imba justu can only be hard countered by Tobi no Invincibility Jutsu or soft-countered by Edo Tensei, which can repel the Kunai before reaching point-blank range. In the latter case, Naruto can still, with good execution, come out with an advantage if instead of throwing the kunai directly at the Edo Tensei spammer, throws the kunai at an incident angle of 90 minus epsilon so that even with outward pushing Edo Tensi, Naruto quickly encircles him. Once encircled, since Edo Tensei can only push in two directions, either directly toward the center or outwards, and with finite force and frequency, at this point, the kunais need only point all towards the edo tensei user. With each outward burst, the kunai turns into a dude Naruto who is now way heavier, and throws the way lighter new kunai towards the center of the circle. Slowly but surely, the kunai will make their way to the center of the circle from every conceivable angle, so dodging is impossible. Then upon reaching melee range, Naruto can proceed to unleash instantaneous whoopass. This also works as a fantastic escape mechanism in the event that Naruto must conquer a user of God-no-jutsu. Using the same concept by which he can advance against an arbitrarily powerful Edo Tensei user, he can toss kunai in the opposite direction to flee even the most speedy pursuer. Each of these Kunai can then throw child Kunais, ad infinitum. Soon you have the entire universe (or at least the observable light-cone) filled with Kunai clones, and only one of the Kunais is actually Naruto. Since shadow clones are indistinguishable in every way from the original, the only way for the user of God-no-jutsu to properly discover and destroy the proper Kunai is to actually destroy the entire universe in a manner that exceeds the speed of light, which is only possible if Tobi uses mass shadow clones and distributes them randomly via wormholes all around the universe. But if he could do this, he could simply build a temperature-filled oxygen-rich chamber on Mars as his eternal, unwipeable "save point." If something goes badly for Tobi, he can just teleport between his own location on Earth and his Martian chamber repeatedly until he had gone back far in time until right after he completed the chamber and try again. Also, while he is in the chamber, since he can take it with him, he can go back in time arbitrarily far, to essentially the beginning of the Universe. He can then go to right before the sage of 6 paths was born and set his save point there. Then he could destroy the ninja world before it had even been started by killing the sage in his infancy. He would have infinite tries to do so. Teleportation implies time travel. Time travel is just fucking imbalanced. Oh you're too strong? Well the bed on which your great great great grandparents made love wasn't.Steal the bedsheets, BAM! no sucky fucky. No you. Relax .. on paper, Naruto is OP .. but when you think about his IQ, he couldn't do anything what you said or want him to do. | ||
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mikell
Australia352 Posts
the fake madara is obito with half zetsu parts. calling it right now. | ||
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Gummy
United States2180 Posts
On October 27 2011 20:05 mikell wrote: ok. the fake madara is obito with half zetsu parts. calling it right now. Seconded. | ||
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saocyn
United States937 Posts
On October 27 2011 20:03 aimaimaim wrote: Show nested quote + On October 27 2011 19:59 Gummy wrote: On October 27 2011 19:21 acker wrote: + Show Spoiler + An explanation for the Rinnegan. Kyuubi ex machina. Both of which make perfect sense. Holy crap, Kishimoto. On October 27 2011 19:09 absalom86 wrote: Can Naruto's clones shadow clone themselves further ? and can one Naruto clone really use that much chakra ? Cloneception. I'm having trouble believing that a clone of Naruto is this OP. Sasuke is completely screwed unless Uchiha-imba kicks in again. Which it will. I seriously don't understand how a Naruto clone can be so OP. How can a clone even draw from the nine-tails chakra??? The whole point of shadow clones is the conservation of chakra, otherwise you can just create infinite shadow clones, by using Kyuubi powerup on each one to create more shadow clones, with nondecreasing power for the shadow clones. Then he just takes one (times infinity) deep breaths and the entire atmosphere of the earth disappears momentarily. Alternatively, he can create infinity rasengans and just destroy the entire surface of the earth instantaneously so that everybody will be dead and can't be influenced by the moon bullshit. Also, since this universe has no apparent conservation of space or mass, Naruto can turn his heavily dodgeable thrown attack and positionally-dependent melee ownage infinitely more effective: He creates a RecursionProgramJutsu that in every inductive step, creates a shadow clone of himself and transforms into a Kunai, taking the parent caster and placing it into its holster. The yellow-haired kid that's walking around is a clone, and he's nested in the infinitieth level of recursion (in the holster of the kunai of the holser of the kunai....). The shadow clone then throws a single kunai, and at each stage when the enemy dodges, the kunai turns into the next shadow clone and tosses the next kunai. Either the kunai makes it into point blank range, at which point the kunai turns into an infinity Naruto's and proceeds to unleash instantaneous whoopass, or the dude keeps dodging and is quickly surrounded on all sides in all three dimensions by Narutos, at which point they proceed to unleash instantaneous whoopass. Such an imba justu can only be hard countered by Tobi no Invincibility Jutsu or soft-countered by Edo Tensei, which can repel the Kunai before reaching point-blank range. In the latter case, Naruto can still, with good execution, come out with an advantage if instead of throwing the kunai directly at the Edo Tensei spammer, throws the kunai at an incident angle of 90 minus epsilon so that even with outward pushing Edo Tensi, Naruto quickly encircles him. Once encircled, since Edo Tensei can only push in two directions, either directly toward the center or outwards, and with finite force and frequency, at this point, the kunais need only point all towards the edo tensei user. With each outward burst, the kunai turns into a dude Naruto who is now way heavier, and throws the way lighter new kunai towards the center of the circle. Slowly but surely, the kunai will make their way to the center of the circle from every conceivable angle, so dodging is impossible. Then upon reaching melee range, Naruto can proceed to unleash instantaneous whoopass. This also works as a fantastic escape mechanism in the event that Naruto must conquer a user of God-no-jutsu. Using the same concept by which he can advance against an arbitrarily powerful Edo Tensei user, he can toss kunai in the opposite direction to flee even the most speedy pursuer. Each of these Kunai can then throw child Kunais, ad infinitum. Soon you have the entire universe (or at least the observable light-cone) filled with Kunai clones, and only one of the Kunais is actually Naruto. Since shadow clones are indistinguishable in every way from the original, the only way for the user of God-no-jutsu to properly discover and destroy the proper Kunai is to actually destroy the entire universe in a manner that exceeds the speed of light, which is only possible if Tobi uses mass shadow clones and distributes them randomly via wormholes all around the universe. But if he could do this, he could simply build a temperature-filled oxygen-rich chamber on Mars as his eternal, unwipeable "save point." If something goes badly for Tobi, he can just teleport between his own location on Earth and his Martian chamber repeatedly until he had gone back far in time until right after he completed the chamber and try again. Also, while he is in the chamber, since he can take it with him, he can go back in time arbitrarily far, to essentially the beginning of the Universe. He can then go to right before the sage of 6 paths was born and set his save point there. Then he could destroy the ninja world before it had even been started by killing the sage in his infancy. He would have infinite tries to do so. Teleportation implies time travel. Time travel is just fucking imbalanced. Oh you're too strong? Well the bed on which your great great great grandparents made love wasn't.Steal the bedsheets, BAM! no sucky fucky. No you. Relax .. on paper, Naruto is OP .. but when you think about his IQ, he couldn't do anything what you said or want him to do. it takes a high IQ to win fights? since when? | ||
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Gummy
United States2180 Posts
On October 27 2011 20:07 saocyn wrote: Show nested quote + On October 27 2011 20:03 aimaimaim wrote: On October 27 2011 19:59 Gummy wrote: On October 27 2011 19:21 acker wrote: + Show Spoiler + An explanation for the Rinnegan. Kyuubi ex machina. Both of which make perfect sense. Holy crap, Kishimoto. On October 27 2011 19:09 absalom86 wrote: Can Naruto's clones shadow clone themselves further ? and can one Naruto clone really use that much chakra ? Cloneception. I'm having trouble believing that a clone of Naruto is this OP. Sasuke is completely screwed unless Uchiha-imba kicks in again. Which it will. I seriously don't understand how a Naruto clone can be so OP. How can a clone even draw from the nine-tails chakra??? The whole point of shadow clones is the conservation of chakra, otherwise you can just create infinite shadow clones, by using Kyuubi powerup on each one to create more shadow clones, with nondecreasing power for the shadow clones. Then he just takes one (times infinity) deep breaths and the entire atmosphere of the earth disappears momentarily. Alternatively, he can create infinity rasengans and just destroy the entire surface of the earth instantaneously so that everybody will be dead and can't be influenced by the moon bullshit. Also, since this universe has no apparent conservation of space or mass, Naruto can turn his heavily dodgeable thrown attack and positionally-dependent melee ownage infinitely more effective: He creates a RecursionProgramJutsu that in every inductive step, creates a shadow clone of himself and transforms into a Kunai, taking the parent caster and placing it into its holster. The yellow-haired kid that's walking around is a clone, and he's nested in the infinitieth level of recursion (in the holster of the kunai of the holser of the kunai....). The shadow clone then throws a single kunai, and at each stage when the enemy dodges, the kunai turns into the next shadow clone and tosses the next kunai. Either the kunai makes it into point blank range, at which point the kunai turns into an infinity Naruto's and proceeds to unleash instantaneous whoopass, or the dude keeps dodging and is quickly surrounded on all sides in all three dimensions by Narutos, at which point they proceed to unleash instantaneous whoopass. Such an imba justu can only be hard countered by Tobi no Invincibility Jutsu or soft-countered by Edo Tensei, which can repel the Kunai before reaching point-blank range. In the latter case, Naruto can still, with good execution, come out with an advantage if instead of throwing the kunai directly at the Edo Tensei spammer, throws the kunai at an incident angle of 90 minus epsilon so that even with outward pushing Edo Tensi, Naruto quickly encircles him. Once encircled, since Edo Tensei can only push in two directions, either directly toward the center or outwards, and with finite force and frequency, at this point, the kunais need only point all towards the edo tensei user. With each outward burst, the kunai turns into a dude Naruto who is now way heavier, and throws the way lighter new kunai towards the center of the circle. Slowly but surely, the kunai will make their way to the center of the circle from every conceivable angle, so dodging is impossible. Then upon reaching melee range, Naruto can proceed to unleash instantaneous whoopass. This also works as a fantastic escape mechanism in the event that Naruto must conquer a user of God-no-jutsu. Using the same concept by which he can advance against an arbitrarily powerful Edo Tensei user, he can toss kunai in the opposite direction to flee even the most speedy pursuer. Each of these Kunai can then throw child Kunais, ad infinitum. Soon you have the entire universe (or at least the observable light-cone) filled with Kunai clones, and only one of the Kunais is actually Naruto. Since shadow clones are indistinguishable in every way from the original, the only way for the user of God-no-jutsu to properly discover and destroy the proper Kunai is to actually destroy the entire universe in a manner that exceeds the speed of light, which is only possible if Tobi uses mass shadow clones and distributes them randomly via wormholes all around the universe. But if he could do this, he could simply build a temperature-filled oxygen-rich chamber on Mars as his eternal, unwipeable "save point." If something goes badly for Tobi, he can just teleport between his own location on Earth and his Martian chamber repeatedly until he had gone back far in time until right after he completed the chamber and try again. Also, while he is in the chamber, since he can take it with him, he can go back in time arbitrarily far, to essentially the beginning of the Universe. He can then go to right before the sage of 6 paths was born and set his save point there. Then he could destroy the ninja world before it had even been started by killing the sage in his infancy. He would have infinite tries to do so. Teleportation implies time travel. Time travel is just fucking imbalanced. Oh you're too strong? Well the bed on which your great great great grandparents made love wasn't.Steal the bedsheets, BAM! no sucky fucky. No you. Relax .. on paper, Naruto is OP .. but when you think about his IQ, he couldn't do anything what you said or want him to do. it takes a high IQ to win fights? since when? Since shadow-boy beat on fangirl. | ||
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