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anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
January 16 2011 19:34 GMT
#4841
He wants to make a Human Ninja Centipede.
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-16 19:37:18
January 16 2011 19:36 GMT
#4842
Your last dying moments, you have been run through with a sword and are bleeding to death fast. And then you notice that you are being sewn into a human scarf with other people wo are bleeding to death.

Now it makes sense. Still not pratical though.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
Sarasin
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada109 Posts
January 17 2011 04:48 GMT
#4843
Why be pratical when you can be awesome!!
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
January 17 2011 05:22 GMT
#4844
The swords are pretty lame. Seems like the writers did not put that much thought into them. Samehada clearly is the best sword so far. And by far. I mean come on... A sword that can repair itself with human blood? How many shinobi have had problems with their weapons breaking apart in all of the manga so far? Lammmeee.
The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
January 17 2011 08:48 GMT
#4845
On January 17 2011 14:22 Warrior Madness wrote:
The swords are pretty lame. Seems like the writers did not put that much thought into them. Samehada clearly is the best sword so far. And by far. I mean come on... A sword that can repair itself with human blood? How many shinobi have had problems with their weapons breaking apart in all of the manga so far? Lammmeee.


Quite common to have broken weapons when facing lightning enhanced blades 8)
Murderotica
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Vatican City State2594 Posts
January 17 2011 18:48 GMT
#4846
On January 17 2011 17:48 EtherealDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2011 14:22 Warrior Madness wrote:
The swords are pretty lame. Seems like the writers did not put that much thought into them. Samehada clearly is the best sword so far. And by far. I mean come on... A sword that can repair itself with human blood? How many shinobi have had problems with their weapons breaking apart in all of the manga so far? Lammmeee.


Quite common to have broken weapons when facing lightning enhanced blades 8)

One of Killer Bee's swords was broken by Zabuza's sword as well. Naruto broke that super sword with a rasengan in one of the arcs. Kakashi's father's blade broke in the Kakashi Gaiden. Zabuza's sword broken by Killer Bee. Naruto broke a bunch of Tendo Pain's spear-like black rods that he seemed to grow from him body.

... This is all the ones I can remember so far -_-;
ǝsnoɥ ssɐlƃ ɐ uı sǝuoʇs ʍoɹɥʇ ʇ,uop || sıʇɹoɟ ɹǝdɯǝs
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
January 17 2011 19:24 GMT
#4847
You guys have good memories. But what I meant was that weapons seem to be so easily replaceable that that sorta power enchanted into a sword seems pretty lame and useless. I don't recall one instance when a broken weapon was detrimental in an outcome of a battle. The swords definitely doesn't live up to their hype. I hope some of the swordsmen do at least.
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Murderotica
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Vatican City State2594 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-17 19:45:15
January 17 2011 19:44 GMT
#4848
On January 18 2011 04:24 Warrior Madness wrote:
You guys have good memories. But what I meant was that weapons seem to be so easily replaceable that that sorta power enchanted into a sword seems pretty lame and useless. I don't recall one instance when a broken weapon was detrimental in an outcome of a battle. The swords definitely doesn't live up to their hype. I hope some of the swordsmen do at least.

Every sword is different ever so slightly, having a custom-made sword to your preferences would be a big plus in a battle. Now imagine that sword broke, you'd have to get a new one, and what do you do in the interim period? Sword-making takes a while, especially good ones. On top of that, though they are uber ninjas n shit, I can imagine that it's a hassle to get a replica of your original sword. This isn't Naruto: Blacksmith Chronicles. Although, it is pretty suspect that almost every uber weapon could be blocked with a simple kunai (except lightning charged ones lol).

EDIT: If the swords are easily replaceable then why is Suigetsu so intent on collecting all those old swords? I don't think it's some foolish pursuit.
ǝsnoɥ ssɐlƃ ɐ uı sǝuoʇs ʍoɹɥʇ ʇ,uop || sıʇɹoɟ ɹǝdɯǝs
gods_basement
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States305 Posts
January 17 2011 20:06 GMT
#4849
On January 18 2011 04:44 Murderotica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2011 04:24 Warrior Madness wrote:
You guys have good memories. But what I meant was that weapons seem to be so easily replaceable that that sorta power enchanted into a sword seems pretty lame and useless. I don't recall one instance when a broken weapon was detrimental in an outcome of a battle. The swords definitely doesn't live up to their hype. I hope some of the swordsmen do at least.

Every sword is different ever so slightly, having a custom-made sword to your preferences would be a big plus in a battle. Now imagine that sword broke, you'd have to get a new one, and what do you do in the interim period? Sword-making takes a while, especially good ones. On top of that, though they are uber ninjas n shit, I can imagine that it's a hassle to get a replica of your original sword. This isn't Naruto: Blacksmith Chronicles. Although, it is pretty suspect that almost every uber weapon could be blocked with a simple kunai (except lightning charged ones lol).

EDIT: If the swords are easily replaceable then why is Suigetsu so intent on collecting all those old swords? I don't think it's some foolish pursuit.


the question isn't whether they're portrayed as important swords to the people in the manga, the question is whether the writers spent enough time thinking up ideas for swords that are important to the reader
(TT~TT)
Murderotica
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Vatican City State2594 Posts
January 17 2011 21:36 GMT
#4850
On January 18 2011 05:06 gods_basement wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2011 04:44 Murderotica wrote:
On January 18 2011 04:24 Warrior Madness wrote:
You guys have good memories. But what I meant was that weapons seem to be so easily replaceable that that sorta power enchanted into a sword seems pretty lame and useless. I don't recall one instance when a broken weapon was detrimental in an outcome of a battle. The swords definitely doesn't live up to their hype. I hope some of the swordsmen do at least.

Every sword is different ever so slightly, having a custom-made sword to your preferences would be a big plus in a battle. Now imagine that sword broke, you'd have to get a new one, and what do you do in the interim period? Sword-making takes a while, especially good ones. On top of that, though they are uber ninjas n shit, I can imagine that it's a hassle to get a replica of your original sword. This isn't Naruto: Blacksmith Chronicles. Although, it is pretty suspect that almost every uber weapon could be blocked with a simple kunai (except lightning charged ones lol).

EDIT: If the swords are easily replaceable then why is Suigetsu so intent on collecting all those old swords? I don't think it's some foolish pursuit.


the question isn't whether they're portrayed as important swords to the people in the manga, the question is whether the writers spent enough time thinking up ideas for swords that are important to the reader

Neither of those were questions that have been asked yet, but to answer that, no I don't think there has been enough hype about the 7 Swordsmen leading up to this or at all really, except for the Zabuza arc in the very beginning. I think they just brought it back so they can go into mad stories when the time comes, like flashbacks that we don't know about from the 7 Swordsmen' perspective, in order to increase the amount of chapters Naruto can shit out before it sputters out. Considering they have been throwing in deus ex machinae since the mangekyo sharingan, this is actually better than a new super jutsu or something. Still pretty shitty though, because I doubt any story they develop about these swordsmen will be boring.
ǝsnoɥ ssɐlƃ ɐ uı sǝuoʇs ʍoɹɥʇ ʇ,uop || sıʇɹoɟ ɹǝdɯǝs
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
January 17 2011 21:51 GMT
#4851
I'm not a fan of those new swords, either. Samehada looks like the only one that's both awesome and practical in a real fight.
YejinYejin
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1053 Posts
January 17 2011 22:50 GMT
#4852
My issue is that Naruto has not dealt with the relative power levels that well. Zabuza was their first real opponent, and that was when Naruto was still a little puke, Sakura was scared as shit, Sasuke was just developing his Sharingan, and Kakashi, for all we knew, was a regular Jounin. Naruto's now like the second coming, Sakura is some medical prodigy who can also destroy mountains with her bare hands, and Kakashi can create a spacial rend with his eyes. How the hell do they still have trouble beating Zabuza?

Bleach explains it away with some stupid deus ex machina (Aizen says, "Haha, it was all according to my plan for you to gradually fight stronger opponents, Ichigo! I'm so clever!"). One Piece explains it with the geographical structure of the main characters' path (they need to go from island to island, and the weakest pirates get weeded out at each step, so each island will logically have stronger competition than the previous one). Naruto, I believe, has failed to do this so far.
안지호
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17741 Posts
January 17 2011 22:59 GMT
#4853
Lots of small things such as the leaf's inexperience in fighting in the mist which Haku and Zabuza excel in. The fact that they just regenerate when hit. And how most of the ninjas seem to be inexperienced in battle.
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
Murderotica
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Vatican City State2594 Posts
January 17 2011 23:55 GMT
#4854
Fortunately Kakashi is not just a regular Jounin. However their last fights was 1v1, both times. In this scenario, a lot of Kakashi's tools for beating Zabuza in the mist (sacrificing blood, using summonings, etc.) would not work this time because it's not 1v1. Kakashi is a baller and he went all out vs Zabuza. Hence Zabuza was and is a badass.
ǝsnoɥ ssɐlƃ ɐ uı sǝuoʇs ʍoɹɥʇ ʇ,uop || sıʇɹoɟ ɹǝdɯǝs
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
January 18 2011 00:00 GMT
#4855
On January 18 2011 08:55 Murderotica wrote:
Fortunately Kakashi is not just a regular Jounin. However their last fights was 1v1, both times. In this scenario, a lot of Kakashi's tools for beating Zabuza in the mist (sacrificing blood, using summonings, etc.) would not work this time because it's not 1v1. Kakashi is a baller and he went all out vs Zabuza. Hence Zabuza was and is a badass.


Ah, those were the days. When the fights were epic and badass.
darkness overpowering
pxds
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil72 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-18 01:23:45
January 18 2011 01:14 GMT
#4856
iirc, there was one anime filler that showed us one of the seven swordsmen, that used some kind of crowbar. he was always with a red eyed kid, who could sense chakra. i didn't see this guy there, so, does the manga completely ignores the anime? how will the anime make this work out?

EDIT: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Raiga_Kurosuki there, i remembered his name.
EDIT 2: well, it seems that the seven swordsmen were not seven, or there is something really messed up since we don't know when those revived lived. i just find it weird to see some other guy, not raiga, wielding the sword named "Fang".
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Murderotica
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Vatican City State2594 Posts
January 18 2011 04:04 GMT
#4857
On January 18 2011 10:14 pxds wrote:
iirc, there was one anime filler that showed us one of the seven swordsmen, that used some kind of crowbar. he was always with a red eyed kid, who could sense chakra. i didn't see this guy there, so, does the manga completely ignores the anime? how will the anime make this work out?

EDIT: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Raiga_Kurosuki there, i remembered his name.
EDIT 2: well, it seems that the seven swordsmen were not seven, or there is something really messed up since we don't know when those revived lived. i just find it weird to see some other guy, not raiga, wielding the sword named "Fang".

I think in the manga they said that there were multiple generations of "Seven Swordsmen" and this was the strongest one that got resurrected. It makes sense to me that each swordsman had a disciple and then passed the sword on to them. He can be written off as a different generation.
ǝsnoɥ ssɐlƃ ɐ uı sǝuoʇs ʍoɹɥʇ ʇ,uop || sıʇɹoɟ ɹǝdɯǝs
Horangi
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Hong Kong226 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-20 22:14:00
January 20 2011 22:13 GMT
#4858
new chapter out:

http://mangastream.com/read/naruto/73516072/1

+ Show Spoiler +
very bad chapter this week imo, everything is so randomly put, that i actually makes no real sense....
DeltruS
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2214 Posts
January 20 2011 22:52 GMT
#4859
wow what a bad chapter. The art has way too much shit going on the the story is terrible.
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Art.FeeL
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1163 Posts
January 20 2011 23:04 GMT
#4860
tbh this chapter was awesome...Rampaging Kakashi FTW!!!! and Gaara FTW too!!!
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