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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing Dragon Ball Super. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

If a chapter or an episode has already been officially released, then it is not necessary to post using spoilers.

If you have knowledge on a chapter that has been released or a chapter/episode that has not been officially released yet, do NOT post it in this thread without spoilers. Ignoring this public note will result in a mod action.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46223 Posts
February 01 2018 23:15 GMT
#3381
On February 02 2018 04:46 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2018 04:33 BigFan wrote:
Ok guys, enough with the insults. Spoilers happened, problem been rectified. Leave it be!

edit: next person to insult someone will be actioned!!!!! I'M SERIOUS!


Does this include calling Dyspo dipshit?


+ Show Spoiler +
I just laughed wayyy too hard at that... + Show Spoiler +
And I also laughed at "I bet you piss ur pants in real life."


Anyways, I have a relevant poll question:

Poll: Who will finally be left standing at the end to win?

(Vote): Goku.
(Vote): Vegeta.
(Vote): Frieza.
(Vote): Android 17.
(Vote): Jiren.
(Vote): Toppo.
(Vote): Multiple U7 fighters.
(Vote): Both Jiren and Toppo.
(Vote): Some weird technicality by Zeno/ Grand Priest will stop the match early.

"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
February 02 2018 00:23 GMT
#3382
I'm thinking both Goku and Jiren.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
February 02 2018 00:47 GMT
#3383
Hoping for goku and vegeta, also i wonder how the wish is going to go, even if they wish back all the destroyed universes their mortal lvl is still really low cant zeno or the grand priest just erase them again.

Tho i fee like it will be after they all get wished back they all get like a year to improve their mortal lvl or something nd zenoh allows it because he like the characters across the different universes
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46223 Posts
February 02 2018 01:24 GMT
#3384
On February 02 2018 09:23 LegalLord wrote:
I'm thinking both Goku and Jiren.


I wonder what will happen if it's a tie.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
February 02 2018 01:28 GMT
#3385
On February 02 2018 10:24 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2018 09:23 LegalLord wrote:
I'm thinking both Goku and Jiren.


I wonder what will happen if it's a tie.

Me too. To be honest I’m not seeing how Goku would actually win against Jiren though. Even UI is not sufficient.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14000 Posts
February 02 2018 01:55 GMT
#3386
On February 02 2018 10:28 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2018 10:24 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On February 02 2018 09:23 LegalLord wrote:
I'm thinking both Goku and Jiren.


I wonder what will happen if it's a tie.

Me too. To be honest I’m not seeing how Goku would actually win against Jiren though. Even UI is not sufficient.

well he still has limit breaker to be revealed
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46223 Posts
February 02 2018 02:19 GMT
#3387
On February 02 2018 10:55 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2018 10:28 LegalLord wrote:
On February 02 2018 10:24 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On February 02 2018 09:23 LegalLord wrote:
I'm thinking both Goku and Jiren.


I wonder what will happen if it's a tie.

Me too. To be honest I’m not seeing how Goku would actually win against Jiren though. Even UI is not sufficient.

well he still has limit breaker to be revealed


I'm really not okay with how quickly all these Saiyan powerups are being obtained and then cast aside for the next big breakthrough... God/ red, blue, UI, whatever the hell Vegeta has now, limit breaker, etc.

It's too easy imo.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
February 02 2018 03:31 GMT
#3388
On February 02 2018 10:24 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2018 09:23 LegalLord wrote:
I'm thinking both Goku and Jiren.


I wonder what will happen if it's a tie.


I feel like it would be a sudden death. That was honestly one of my early predictions for this arc, but now I don't think that's going to happen with Super ending soon. I think universe 7 is going to win with no tie breaker.
When I think of something else, something will go here
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
February 02 2018 03:32 GMT
#3389
Looking at it, Super has used only powerups to indicate progress and try to make fights interesting. By contrast, even through the end, DBZ had more tactics, technique, and interesting scenarios in each fight, and so even when you had the Buu saga trampling over the ending of the Cell saga, it still made up for it with a ton of memorable moments. It wasn't just about raising the power ceiling one more notch every time. I feel like the pacing is in part to do with it, the last couple arcs have both been too long and written into poor endings. I hope with the next one things are plotted out a bit better.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46223 Posts
February 02 2018 04:04 GMT
#3390
On February 02 2018 12:31 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2018 10:24 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On February 02 2018 09:23 LegalLord wrote:
I'm thinking both Goku and Jiren.


I wonder what will happen if it's a tie.


I feel like it would be a sudden death. That was honestly one of my early predictions for this arc, but now I don't think that's going to happen with Super ending soon. I think universe 7 is going to win with no tie breaker.


And would a sudden death scenario allow the fighters to kill each other? Because Goku won't kill Jiren imo, even though Jiren dying would be pretty much the same as Jiren getting erased, so dying shouldn't matter to the losing universes. Everything less than dying was apparently permitted anyway, with Frieza's tortures.

On February 02 2018 12:32 NewSunshine wrote:
Looking at it, Super has used only powerups to indicate progress and try to make fights interesting. By contrast, even through the end, DBZ had more tactics, technique, and interesting scenarios in each fight, and so even when you had the Buu saga trampling over the ending of the Cell saga, it still made up for it with a ton of memorable moments. It wasn't just about raising the power ceiling one more notch every time. I feel like the pacing is in part to do with it, the last couple arcs have both been too long and written into poor endings. I hope with the next one things are plotted out a bit better.


Completely agree, and I prefer the DBZ approach.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
February 02 2018 06:44 GMT
#3391
Nah, I imagine it would have been a 1v1 whoever gets knocked out of the ring loses. I was pretty confident of that happening before the news of Super ending.
When I think of something else, something will go here
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46223 Posts
February 02 2018 11:49 GMT
#3392
I'd much prefer they do a knife edge fight, as an homage to Yu Yu Hakusho ^^

+ Show Spoiler +
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
February 02 2018 12:28 GMT
#3393
The spoilers made me angry, what the hell are they thinking with + Show Spoiler +
making 17 last that long '--
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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
February 02 2018 21:52 GMT
#3394
Anyone else kind of expect future Trunks' janky ass time machine to just suddenly appear in the ring at like 45 seconds left?
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
February 02 2018 22:43 GMT
#3395
It could happen. But then Jiren would just flex his muscles and Trunks would be sent back to his time again. It wouldn't work.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
February 03 2018 01:25 GMT
#3396
On February 02 2018 12:32 NewSunshine wrote:
Looking at it, Super has used only powerups to indicate progress and try to make fights interesting. By contrast, even through the end, DBZ had more tactics, technique, and interesting scenarios in each fight, and so even when you had the Buu saga trampling over the ending of the Cell saga, it still made up for it with a ton of memorable moments. It wasn't just about raising the power ceiling one more notch every time. I feel like the pacing is in part to do with it, the last couple arcs have both been too long and written into poor endings. I hope with the next one things are plotted out a bit better.


Even Buu saga had the last fight not being between the most powerfull fighters. It was kid buu. Not buuhan. Goku not vegito or ultimate gohan. It was genki dama with lots of strugle from fatty and vegeta, not a power up.

Cell was a pep talk by a father to make his son cleaner his doubts and a helping hand from vegeta back attack.
Frezza had a lot of shit going on before the super sayan, and eve then there was the ressurections telepprts amd stuff. Even the freeza defeat was interesting. The disgust of!freeza for!being defeat and his unecesaary rage attack.
And vegeta. Literally handled by gohan kuririn and yajarob after tanking everything goku could do.

Super is just a cash cow that we can't let go because we are addicted. It has nice plot ideias. Interesting characters. But the execution is just bad.
Supporter of the situational Blink Dagger on Storm.
MyLovelyLurker
Profile Joined April 2007
France756 Posts
February 03 2018 14:54 GMT
#3397
On February 03 2018 10:25 TMG26 wrote:
Super is just a cash cow that we can't let go because we are addicted. It has nice plot ideias. Interesting characters. But the execution is just bad.


This. I like that Toppo remembered he was a GoD just five minutes before the alarm.

Hoping for Toyotaro fixing all that in the manga.
"I just say, it doesn't matter win or lose, I just love Starcraft 2, I love this game, I love this stage, just play like in practice" - TIME/Oliveira
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14000 Posts
February 03 2018 15:16 GMT
#3398
On February 03 2018 23:54 MyLovelyLurker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2018 10:25 TMG26 wrote:
Super is just a cash cow that we can't let go because we are addicted. It has nice plot ideias. Interesting characters. But the execution is just bad.


This. I like that Toppo remembered he was a GoD just five minutes before the alarm.

Hoping for Toyotaro fixing all that in the manga.

Well he didn't want to lock in that he will be next GoD unless absolutely necessary. At least that's how I interpreted it.
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
February 03 2018 23:24 GMT
#3399
On February 03 2018 23:54 MyLovelyLurker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2018 10:25 TMG26 wrote:
Super is just a cash cow that we can't let go because we are addicted. It has nice plot ideias. Interesting characters. But the execution is just bad.


This. I like that Toppo remembered he was a GoD just five minutes before the alarm.

Hoping for Toyotaro fixing all that in the manga.


I mean if you watch the episode, it's not him remembering, it's him making a decision. Toppo wasn't sure he wanted to be or not and it seems accepting it changed his personality from before. Jiren states this with "You've made your decision, toppo."


I enjoy Super, power scaling can be bad but since the first tournament, I've enjoyed it and don't have the hatred a lot of you guys have (and continue to watch?).

When I think of something else, something will go here
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-03 23:50:35
February 03 2018 23:49 GMT
#3400
I actually like Super and think that comparing it to GT it wins by a mile (though GT in video games turns out to be better somehow). I don't expect it to be quite as good as Z, and while I have enough gripes with the way that Super did certain things badly (most notably the ending to the Goku Black arc) I'm perfectly happy to enjoy it for what it is.

DBZ had plenty of cringe and mediocre storytelling. It was just fun regardless.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
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