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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing Dragon Ball Super. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-15 09:20:03
October 15 2017 09:15 GMT
#2581
On October 15 2017 16:28 Mun_Su wrote:
Also why Hit didn't tell Kale and Khalifa to push Jiren out while he was blocking him... it was worth a try...

When Super Saiyan 2 Goku punched Jiren square in the face, Jiren didn't move an inch. What are the odds these jokesters manage to move him?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12711 Posts
October 15 2017 09:32 GMT
#2582
On October 15 2017 18:15 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2017 16:28 Mun_Su wrote:
Also why Hit didn't tell Kale and Khalifa to push Jiren out while he was blocking him... it was worth a try...

When Super Saiyan 2 Goku punched Jiren square in the face, Jiren didn't move an inch. What are the odds these jokesters manage to move him?

kale going berserk would work imo
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-15 10:13:21
October 15 2017 10:13 GMT
#2583
On October 15 2017 18:32 ETisME wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2017 18:15 Elentos wrote:
On October 15 2017 16:28 Mun_Su wrote:
Also why Hit didn't tell Kale and Khalifa to push Jiren out while he was blocking him... it was worth a try...

When Super Saiyan 2 Goku punched Jiren square in the face, Jiren didn't move an inch. What are the odds these jokesters manage to move him?

kale going berserk would work imo

Maybe. But Jiren was fighting through the technique anyway. I'm doubtful they could have just pushed him out. Maybe should have blown up the part of the ring he was standing on so he falls out.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
October 15 2017 10:22 GMT
#2584
On October 15 2017 18:15 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2017 16:28 Mun_Su wrote:
Also why Hit didn't tell Kale and Khalifa to push Jiren out while he was blocking him... it was worth a try...

When Super Saiyan 2 Goku punched Jiren square in the face, Jiren didn't move an inch. What are the odds these jokesters manage to move him?


Just blast the ground from under him, like that one guy did with Tien.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45776 Posts
October 15 2017 10:38 GMT
#2585
Poor Hit, and I'm also surprised that Jiren totally called Goku weak with the whole "back to nap time now... no one left can touch me" line. I assume he'll wake up out of his meditation again at some point when he realizes that he's wrong... and I hope he's wrong, because I don't want Vegeta and Frieza and the U6 Saiyans to all get beaten simply by Toppo and Dyspo or any other fighters who haven't been highlighted much yet.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6273 Posts
October 15 2017 10:42 GMT
#2586
Why are you surprised? Goku is rather weak at the moment. He got enough energy from Freeza to hold himself together and that's it.
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
October 15 2017 10:52 GMT
#2587
I am not surprised, but seems that Jiren underestimates how Saiyans work. So long as Goku remains in the tournament he can pose a problem to Jiren eventually. If he truly was certain of victory he would just wrap it up and remove everyone else now. Giving people more time just shows that he is leaving time on the clock for someone to surprise him.

We know dyspo is not stronger than Vegeta/Freeza, and Toppo likely is on par with them, although I think he would lose in a 1v1 with either of them. This means that if Jiren just meditates, then he will likely lose since if he is only 1 left at end and anyone else has 2 warriors, he auto loses.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45776 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-15 10:54:56
October 15 2017 10:53 GMT
#2588
I'm surprised because no one expected Goku to transcend to UI, and I feel like it'd be hugely overconfident to assume that he or others are incapable of pulling out other tricks or doing something else unexpected. Even Jiren doesn't magically know whether or not someone would be a threat in this battle royale before all the trump cards are played by the fighters. I think he's underestimating the situation, even if he is the strongest.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
MoneyHypeMike
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada305 Posts
October 15 2017 11:31 GMT
#2589
Is fusion allowed in this tournament?

Would be nice to see Ultra Instinct Vegito!
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
October 15 2017 11:51 GMT
#2590
On October 15 2017 20:31 MoneyHypeMike wrote:
Is fusion allowed in this tournament?

Would be nice to see Ultra Instinct Vegito!


Unsure on fusion, but for Vegito they would need potora earrings, which would disqualify them since they would need to get them from outside the arena from a kai.
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6273 Posts
October 15 2017 12:29 GMT
#2591
Not sure if I want another Vegito after the last disaster....
Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
October 15 2017 12:49 GMT
#2592
why not a "canon" Gogeta then 8)
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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
October 15 2017 13:08 GMT
#2593
Half of the tournament = 16 episodes. I kind of get the feeling the last episode is going to be like 10 minutes of tournament time. But so far, we've got 24 minutes completed in 16 epiaodes, meaning about 1.5 minutes per episode..
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45776 Posts
October 15 2017 14:02 GMT
#2594
On October 15 2017 22:08 Mohdoo wrote:
Half of the tournament = 16 episodes. I kind of get the feeling the last episode is going to be like 10 minutes of tournament time. But so far, we've got 24 minutes completed in 16 epiaodes, meaning about 1.5 minutes per episode..


Still better than the original Goku vs. Frieza though, right?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9054 Posts
October 15 2017 14:38 GMT
#2595
I'd welcome a Gogeta fusion if it meant kicking Jiren into the stands. Too bad it's not allowed. Or it will be once Goku convinces Zen-Chan to allow it. Seems he can get away with almost anything.

I was thinking why didn't they all go super saiyan/legendary and blast Jiren/the ground away. But whatever. I'm expecting Cabba to hit ssj3 this tourney.
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-15 15:00:35
October 15 2017 14:57 GMT
#2596
On October 15 2017 23:38 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
I'd welcome a Gogeta fusion if it meant kicking Jiren into the stands. Too bad it's not allowed. Or it will be once Goku convinces Zen-Chan to allow it. Seems he can get away with almost anything.

I was thinking why didn't they all go super saiyan/legendary and blast Jiren/the ground away. But whatever. I'm expecting Cabba to hit ssj3 this tourney.

ssj3 is completely useless tho...plus the whole point of whis training was that goku and vegeta didnt do alot of training in base form and thus the transformation was lacking as they kept trying to rely on a one uping of transformation.

I dont want cabba to go ssj3 at least in this tournament....vegeta never even achieved it

New forms are awesome, but hopefully they dont just blast them out one after the other and for goku only. Wasnt everyone else meant to become relevant? where the hell are their powerups, and by that i mean i want to see a powerup not just oh well i guess 17 can fight goku blue so hes just as strong.
Even gohan's mystic form had that stupid dance thing from elder kai. (Which btw the kai's have become complete retards)
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
October 15 2017 15:14 GMT
#2597
On October 15 2017 23:57 Shock710 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2017 23:38 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
I'd welcome a Gogeta fusion if it meant kicking Jiren into the stands. Too bad it's not allowed. Or it will be once Goku convinces Zen-Chan to allow it. Seems he can get away with almost anything.

I was thinking why didn't they all go super saiyan/legendary and blast Jiren/the ground away. But whatever. I'm expecting Cabba to hit ssj3 this tourney.

ssj3 is completely useless tho...plus the whole point of whis training was that goku and vegeta didnt do alot of training in base form and thus the transformation was lacking as they kept trying to rely on a one uping of transformation.

I dont want cabba to go ssj3 at least in this tournament....vegeta never even achieved it

New forms are awesome, but hopefully they dont just blast them out one after the other and for goku only. Wasnt everyone else meant to become relevant? where the hell are their powerups, and by that i mean i want to see a powerup not just oh well i guess 17 can fight goku blue so hes just as strong.
Even gohan's mystic form had that stupid dance thing from elder kai. (Which btw the kai's have become complete retards)


I thought Whis trained them generally in base form because training in a transformed state gave less results.

I know in some training you see them transformed, but most of the time they are not. I felt that since they got both SSG and SSB, ssj3 was a rather pointless transformation by comparison. It's extra stamina loss to maintain was too big a difference compared to just going SSG/SSB. In terms of stamina needed vs strength/speed gained.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
October 15 2017 15:17 GMT
#2598
On October 15 2017 19:38 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Poor Hit, and I'm also surprised that Jiren totally called Goku weak with the whole "back to nap time now... no one left can touch me" line. I assume he'll wake up out of his meditation again at some point when he realizes that he's wrong... and I hope he's wrong, because I don't want Vegeta and Frieza and the U6 Saiyans to all get beaten simply by Toppo and Dyspo or any other fighters who haven't been highlighted much yet.

As I was saying, Jiren is clearly underestimating his competition. He knows Hit is the ace of U6 (U11 had an entire episode of trying to break him) and Goku advertised himself to the entire world with his exhibition match theatrics. The others have kept a much lower profile. Also Saiyan resilience.

The next few episodes + Show Spoiler +
are all about the other characters as Goku recovers, so expect they will get some screen time.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
palexhur
Profile Joined May 2010
Colombia730 Posts
October 15 2017 15:54 GMT
#2599
Next chapter seems to be: back to the boring fillers.
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-15 16:02:07
October 15 2017 15:59 GMT
#2600
On October 15 2017 23:57 Shock710 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2017 23:38 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
I'd welcome a Gogeta fusion if it meant kicking Jiren into the stands. Too bad it's not allowed. Or it will be once Goku convinces Zen-Chan to allow it. Seems he can get away with almost anything.

I was thinking why didn't they all go super saiyan/legendary and blast Jiren/the ground away. But whatever. I'm expecting Cabba to hit ssj3 this tourney.

ssj3 is completely useless tho...plus the whole point of whis training was that goku and vegeta didnt do alot of training in base form and thus the transformation was lacking as they kept trying to rely on a one uping of transformation.

I dont want cabba to go ssj3 at least in this tournament....vegeta never even achieved it

New forms are awesome, but hopefully they dont just blast them out one after the other and for goku only. Wasnt everyone else meant to become relevant? where the hell are their powerups, and by that i mean i want to see a powerup not just oh well i guess 17 can fight goku blue so hes just as strong.
Even gohan's mystic form had that stupid dance thing from elder kai. (Which btw the kai's have become complete retards)


he's not as strong, even if goku goes blue, he can surpress so much of his energy. he even went blue vs krillin for gods sake.

i'm really disappointed with what they made with piccolo and gohan this tournament. all their sections are so boring. gohan is just being a weak little pussy and piccolo just follows him everywhere.

hope gohan gets blown off soon and piccolo ascends in some way, maybe by taking energy from the U6 namekians or absorbing them, and then fighting someone strong like toppo.
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