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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing Dragon Ball Super. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

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MyLovelyLurker
Profile Joined April 2007
France756 Posts
August 20 2017 23:16 GMT
#2201
In theory all it would take for the guards to make him invincible is to create defences for long enough that he could hakai whatever. So the guards, de minimis, just need to make an impenetrable barrier at will, for a second or so.
"I just say, it doesn't matter win or lose, I just love Starcraft 2, I love this game, I love this stage, just play like in practice" - TIME/Oliveira
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
August 20 2017 23:49 GMT
#2202
On August 21 2017 08:16 MyLovelyLurker wrote:
In theory all it would take for the guards to make him invincible is to create defences for long enough that he could hakai whatever. So the guards, de minimis, just need to make an impenetrable barrier at will, for a second or so.

My assumption is that purely by being near zenoh, he is invincible. They can likely project invincibility, but I also think that so long as they are near zenoh, the idea of damaging him just doesn't exist
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
August 21 2017 00:07 GMT
#2203
Plot twist. The universes in this tournament actually are the most powerful and the great priest is getting rid of potential mortals who could rival him and his children in power once he dethrones zen-oh
Never Knows Best.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
August 21 2017 00:09 GMT
#2204
On August 21 2017 09:07 Slaughter wrote:
Plot twist. The universes in this tournament actually are the most powerful and the great priest is getting rid of potential mortals who could rival him and his children in power once he dethrones zen-oh

Problem: that lizard dude seems to be the undisputed most powerful GoD with not only superior strength but knowledge as well. I really think that dude is the dream of the crop.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8990 Posts
August 21 2017 00:19 GMT
#2205
Hit : Careful his attack!
Goku: Doesn't matter!
Go on to blast the blue guy

The perfect embodiment of goku in this tournament.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
August 21 2017 03:42 GMT
#2206
On August 21 2017 09:19 Nakajin wrote:
Hit : Careful his attack!
Goku: Doesn't matter!
Go on to blast the blue guy

The perfect embodiment of goku in this tournament.


So let me get this straight:

1. Blue Goku kamehameha doesn't even put a dent in legendary Kale
2. Caulifa and Kale think of Hit as godlike
3. Hit is like "rofl, dude, no, Goku, DO NOT run through that mine field. That shit is insa-"
4. Goku just fucking plows straight through a shit load of mines, tanking that shit face first, and doesn't take a sliver of damage.

GOKU YOU MAKE NO FUCKING SENSE YOU GOD DAMN ENIGMA

But I love you <3
MoonfireSpam
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1153 Posts
August 21 2017 06:25 GMT
#2207
God ki is the ability to internalise plot armour! Continues to be best theory!:D
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
August 21 2017 09:18 GMT
#2208
On August 21 2017 12:42 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2017 09:19 Nakajin wrote:
Hit : Careful his attack!
Goku: Doesn't matter!
Go on to blast the blue guy

The perfect embodiment of goku in this tournament.


So let me get this straight:

1. Blue Goku kamehameha doesn't even put a dent in legendary Kale
2. Caulifa and Kale think of Hit as godlike
3. Hit is like "rofl, dude, no, Goku, DO NOT run through that mine field. That shit is insa-"
4. Goku just fucking plows straight through a shit load of mines, tanking that shit face first, and doesn't take a sliver of damage.

GOKU YOU MAKE NO FUCKING SENSE YOU GOD DAMN ENIGMA

But I love you <3

Idk why hit was worried about that mine field at all hes just as fast as goku and can timestop the explosions
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
August 21 2017 09:26 GMT
#2209
Because Hit is an intelligent fighter and doesn't take unnecessary risks.
Never Knows Best.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
August 21 2017 13:16 GMT
#2210
On August 21 2017 18:26 Slaughter wrote:
Because Hit is an intelligent fighter and doesn't take unnecessary risks.

lol so true.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
August 21 2017 14:42 GMT
#2211
I think we could also just chalk up Goku getting tossed aside by Kale as something similar to what happened with Hit and Fake Beerus. I mean by the end it was clear that Hit was by far the superior fighter, but in the moment he was disadvantaged because his opponent had a thorough read on his strategy whereas he had pretty much nothing. Goku could very well be the same, he didn't exactly have a good read on what a pretty dang powerful opponent (Kale) can do, and if Broly (and video game interpretations) is any indication, the SSJ Berserker has the advantage of being tanky to the point of absurdity. Hit adapted and then pretty much slaughtered Fake Beerus, twice in fact, and same thing would have happened with Goku and Kale. They took some fairly meaningless surface-level damage as a learning exercise in order to figure out their opponent.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
August 21 2017 14:49 GMT
#2212
The whole Kale thing is silly. I mean, sure, make her powerful but to elevate her to that level? Feels a bit ridiculous imo. I realize that they are trying to do the same thing as they did with Gohan where her emotions helped her break new heights but not to that level. At this point, if she is able to control it at will, she should theoretically be unstoppable.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
MyLovelyLurker
Profile Joined April 2007
France756 Posts
August 21 2017 16:03 GMT
#2213
Yeah I'd say Kale was a hype glitch. Jiren did well one-shotting her.
Speaking of absurdity :

Toppo (mumbling) : 'Jiren, two of our grunts are taking on the other two strongest fighters in the tournament. We'll probably be reduced to 2 or at best 3 after that.'
Jiren : - '...'
Toppo: 'Jiren, our grunts are doing better than expected due to surprise tactics'.
Jiren : - '...'
Toppo:' We could, ya know, actually *do* something and help them, securing victory in the process. Or just, erhm, watch them fall down.'
Jiren : - '...'
Toppo to Dyspo after his fight: 'Lay down the justice talk, bro. SMH.'
"I just say, it doesn't matter win or lose, I just love Starcraft 2, I love this game, I love this stage, just play like in practice" - TIME/Oliveira
Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
August 23 2017 11:03 GMT
#2214
JUSTICE COMMENT !
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
August 23 2017 16:42 GMT
#2215
Newest manga is very good. Manga spoiler below

+ Show Spoiler +

When Whis is like "oh what, Vegeta, you got Goku's new form too?", what is he referring to? The lack of color certainly makes it hard to know wtf he's talking about, lol. I don't understand how people can tell the difference between forms when it is black and white. What did Vegeta do? Did I miss some form of Goku as some kinda advanced blue thing?
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
August 23 2017 17:21 GMT
#2216
On August 24 2017 01:42 Mohdoo wrote:
Newest manga is very good. Manga spoiler below

+ Show Spoiler +

When Whis is like "oh what, Vegeta, you got Goku's new form too?", what is he referring to? The lack of color certainly makes it hard to know wtf he's talking about, lol. I don't understand how people can tell the difference between forms when it is black and white. What did Vegeta do? Did I miss some form of Goku as some kinda advanced blue thing?



Spoiler for it below.

+ Show Spoiler +

In the Goku Black arc, Goku used mastered SSB against fused Zamasu. It's essentially the "Kaioken" version in the manga. Vegeta mastered that and can do it as well now.

When I think of something else, something will go here
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55587 Posts
August 23 2017 17:22 GMT
#2217
On August 24 2017 01:42 Mohdoo wrote:
Newest manga is very good. Manga spoiler below

+ Show Spoiler +

When Whis is like "oh what, Vegeta, you got Goku's new form too?", what is he referring to? The lack of color certainly makes it hard to know wtf he's talking about, lol. I don't understand how people can tell the difference between forms when it is black and white. What did Vegeta do? Did I miss some form of Goku as some kinda advanced blue thing?

+ Show Spoiler +
Completed Super Saiyan Blue, the form Goku 1v1 battled Fused Zamasu with. It's basically mastery of Blue to the point that you can keep all the godly energy inside of you, so you can keep the full power of Blue up for longer periods of time. It makes Blue less of an undesirable energy drain. The risk is that if your concentration lapses and the godly energy comes out, you do damage to yourself.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
August 23 2017 18:03 GMT
#2218
+ Show Spoiler +
you can tell the diference in the manga because in this form they don't have any visible aura surrounding their body.
Goku vs Fused Zamasu was pretty cool,
When he was reaching his limit and the ki was starting to gush out from some body parts.
It's interesting that Vegito said he would be able to erase Zamasu even tough he was immortal, and then later Goku puts all his Blue power into his hand and is able to perform destruction. Shame Zamasu pulled an hostage and Goku cancelled the move
Supporter of the situational Blink Dagger on Storm.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
August 23 2017 20:35 GMT
#2219
Cool, thanks for the explanation guys!
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
August 24 2017 03:05 GMT
#2220
On August 24 2017 03:03 TMG26 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
you can tell the diference in the manga because in this form they don't have any visible aura surrounding their body.
Goku vs Fused Zamasu was pretty cool,
When he was reaching his limit and the ki was starting to gush out from some body parts.
It's interesting that Vegito said he would be able to erase Zamasu even tough he was immortal, and then later Goku puts all his Blue power into his hand and is able to perform destruction. Shame Zamasu pulled an hostage and Goku cancelled the move


+ Show Spoiler +
Why doesn't Berus do that? I know he uses it agaisnt present Zamasu, but why not future?

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