Knowing Jimmy's future as Saul makes this ep that much more tragic.
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
Knowing Jimmy's future as Saul makes this ep that much more tragic. | ||
Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
I just powered through Breaking Bad in about two or three weeks, and started on Better Call Saul a couple of days ago. At first I thought it was good, but not exceptional, but as the season progresses I'm loving it more and more. The last two episodes were absolutely amazing. I can't help but try to figure out what happened between the time of the show and Breaking Bad. We don't get to see his personal life much on Breaking Bad, but it truly seems like it's just him. Yet he's still a lawyer, he has the ads so he has somewhat of a presence, and he's still in Albuquerque. But he has no ties whatsoever with Kim, or his brother, or anyone else? I feel like there's a really good story behind that. I too think his brother will die at some point. Maybe even sooner than we think. What I'm also wondering about, is how much of the post-Breaking Bad stuff we will see. So far it's just the intro if I'm not mistaken. I hope we get more of it, it could be pretty interesting. Anyway... Now the season finale is approaching, and then we have to wait a year. Gah. On the bright side, I do not doubt for one second that this show will run for at least as long as Breaking Bad. It's got the nice start from being the spin-off, it's actually excellent, and the ratings are off the charts. Long live Saul! | ||
Nausea
Sweden807 Posts
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Ctone23
United States1839 Posts
On April 01 2015 07:47 Nausea wrote: I found Chuck telling Jimmy that "people don't change" to be rather rich, coming from someone who locks himself inside the house scared of electricity. I mean, he's been trying to change that for a while now. I was a bit surprised Jimmy did not call him out for it. + Show Spoiler + not to mention Jimmy could have had Chuck sent to the mental hospital, but no, he took care of him, brought him everything he needed to survive. Fuck Chuck as far as i'm concerned. | ||
fixed_point
Germany4891 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Seconded | ||
GGQ
Canada2653 Posts
On April 01 2015 05:07 BurningSera wrote: Mike best man and wtf with the story development?? + Show Spoiler + Am i correct that even he did some online course but he still passed the bar exam in a proper way right?? Oh god this twisted brother...... This is sad but so damn good. Damn. + Show Spoiler + Yeah Jimmy got probably the least prestigious law degree possible but it seems that he passed the bar fair and square. Chuck couldn't handle it. I saw it coming when Kim was tearing up and couldn't explain why she thought Jimmy should take the deal. What could Howard have told her? Then I remembered Chuck's mysterious call, but I didn't want to believe it. | ||
Whole
United States6046 Posts
On April 01 2015 07:04 Spaylz wrote: Great show. I just powered through Breaking Bad in about two or three weeks, and started on Better Call Saul a couple of days ago. At first I thought it was good, but not exceptional, but as the season progresses I'm loving it more and more. The last two episodes were absolutely amazing. I can't help but try to figure out what happened between the time of the show and Breaking Bad. We don't get to see his personal life much on Breaking Bad, but it truly seems like it's just him. Yet he's still a lawyer, he has the ads so he has somewhat of a presence, and he's still in Albuquerque. But he has no ties whatsoever with Kim, or his brother, or anyone else? I feel like there's a really good story behind that. I too think his brother will die at some point. Maybe even sooner than we think. What I'm also wondering about, is how much of the post-Breaking Bad stuff we will see. So far it's just the intro if I'm not mistaken. I hope we get more of it, it could be pretty interesting. Anyway... Now the season finale is approaching, and then we have to wait a year. Gah. On the bright side, I do not doubt for one second that this show will run for at least as long as Breaking Bad. It's got the nice start from being the spin-off, it's actually excellent, and the ratings are off the charts. Long live Saul! Better Call Saul happens before Breaking Bad. (some1 correct me if im wrong) | ||
Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
On April 01 2015 16:19 Whole wrote: Better Call Saul happens before Breaking Bad. (some1 correct me if im wrong) I'm aware of that. What did I say that made it look like I thought otherwise? | ||
Whole
United States6046 Posts
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Leporello
United States2845 Posts
It's just as good. Best season of TV I've seen in a while, mostly in how certain things have come together in this last episode. The relationship between Mike and Saul and Gus was mysterious in Breaking Bad. At first, Mike seemed to be working for Saul. But then later he almost seems like he's Gus's right-hand man... Saul never met Gus, as you say, but he did obviously know enough about Gus to refer him to Walt, and in full retrospect of that show, Mike seems likely as the real Gus connection. In Better Call Saul, we see already that the show is giving Mike his own plot-lines. This episode, nothing Mike was doing had any correlation to what Saul was doing. So I maintain that we might see Gus in the future of this show, not with Saul/Jimmy, but through Mike. Just speculation. It'll be interesting to see how Mike and Saul's stories converge. | ||
coolTLname
United States315 Posts
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Scorch
Austria3371 Posts
On the plus side, Season 2 is going to have 13 episodes. Does anyone know when it will air? | ||
Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
On April 01 2015 23:30 Scorch wrote: Only one more episode to go On the plus side, Season 2 is going to have 13 episodes. Does anyone know when it will air? Yeah... :-( According to this link, season 2 should be first quarter of 2016. Soooo... a year. | ||
Hollow
Canada2173 Posts
On April 01 2015 07:47 Nausea wrote: I found Chuck telling Jimmy that "people don't change" to be rather rich, coming from someone who locks himself inside the house scared of electricity. I mean, he's been trying to change that for a while now. I was a bit surprised Jimmy did not call him out for it. Chuck meant that a person's 'core' can't change, as in we have an innate, immutable character, not that you can't change your habits or improve your personal situation. For instance, a conman who loves to deceive people will carry that with him always, and the best he can do is not put himself in situations that would feed that character trait, but he hasn't changed if he does so. | ||
Leporello
United States2845 Posts
On April 02 2015 01:04 Hollow wrote: Chuck meant that a person's 'core' can't change, as in we have an innate, immutable character, not that you can't change your habits or improve your personal situation. For instance, a conman who loves to deceive people will carry that with him always, and the best he can do is not put himself in situations that would feed that character trait, but he hasn't changed if he does so. I think there's truth to this, but I think it misses the point. Whatever his past, Jimmy proved that he is not just a capable lawyer, but a really, really good one. He caught this case when everyone, including Chuck, missed it. Chuck, in episode 8, even admonishes himself for not seeing the fraudulent billing. People want to define others based on their past and their reputation. Which makes sense, and is logical. But at times, a person needs to be judged by their current state and nothing else. Jimmy obviously was on a really righteous path, and his brother's refusal to admit it is likely the biggest catalyst to Jimmy becoming Saul. From the episode's writer, http://www.forbes.com/sites/allenstjohn/2015/03/31/better-call-saul-writer-tom-schnauz-on-mikes-code-the-brothers-mcgill-nachos-missing-20-bill/ One of my favorite parts of this season was writing the brothers’ confrontation. The direction I gave Bob was that he had a witness on the stand and this was the “You can’t handle the truth” moment where you need to get him talking Chuck is not going to say anything, but finally he cracks and reveals the truth. What he believes is that Slippin’ Jimmy will always be Slippin’ Jimmy. Personally, I don’t think that’s true. I think Chuck’s actions turn Jimmy into Saul Goodman. When Chuck is saying “You’re a chimp with a machine gun” the audience knows what the future holds and half of them might be saying Chuck is right. And hopefully the other half says that it’s a self-fulfilling prophecy and the things you’re doing are driving him to that. This was my favorite thing to write in the whole season, so hopefully it works on a variety of levels. I want Michael McKean and Bob Odenkirk to get some awards, because that scene was fucking chilling and completely believable. + Show Spoiler + | ||
Powerpill
United States1692 Posts
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W.O.L.F.Y.
Germany98 Posts
So far the show seems to surpass its Spinoff status,really entertaining watch, Has been slow in the beginning but it starts to slowly get more momentum. | ||
Hollow
Canada2173 Posts
On April 02 2015 03:09 Leporello wrote: I think there's truth to this, but I think it misses the point. Whatever his past, Jimmy proved that he is not just a capable lawyer, but a really, really good one. He caught this case when everyone, including Chuck, missed it. Chuck, in episode 8, even admonishes himself for not seeing the fraudulent billing. People want to define others based on their past and their reputation. Which makes sense, and is logical. But at times, a person needs to be judged by their current state and nothing else. Jimmy obviously was on a really righteous path, and his brother's refusal to admit it is likely the biggest catalyst to Jimmy becoming Saul. From the episode's writer, http://www.forbes.com/sites/allenstjohn/2015/03/31/better-call-saul-writer-tom-schnauz-on-mikes-code-the-brothers-mcgill-nachos-missing-20-bill/ I want Michael McKean and Bob Odenkirk to get some awards, because that scene was fucking chilling and completely believable. + Show Spoiler + https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuAuQX40cOQ I think you're probably right, but the great thing about this scene is that we will never know. Maybe it was just a matter of time before something triggered the comeback of Slippin' Jimmy as Saul, or maybe it was Chuck's fault. We can never know. All we know is that Saul did a damn good job of redeeming himself and working hard to get somewhere legit. This is exemplified when he decides to return the money to the two thieves and try to get them to take the deal. He also turned down the latino's offer in the beginning of the show. | ||
Vaelone
Finland4400 Posts
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Thalandros
Netherlands1151 Posts
Does anyone know what time the episode airs on Netflix US? | ||
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