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Bosu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3247 Posts
August 19 2010 18:01 GMT
#161
I thought season 4 was the best. The kids did a great job acting I thought. I loved every season though.
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sammler
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United Kingdom381 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-19 18:15:03
August 19 2010 18:14 GMT
#162
The last season (or rather the McNulty arc in the last season) for me was the only slight let down. I don't understand why Jimmy acted the way he did. I've never been an alcoholic, or that desperate to achieve an aim (in his case locking up Marlo), so maybe I just can't relate.

Season 4 is certainly my favourite. The way the youngsters became their elders over the two final seasons was the type of powerful allegory that made The Wire the best show on TV.
"I wish I was good enough to be called bad by IdrA." - Moa
Jinsin5
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada44 Posts
August 19 2010 18:59 GMT
#163
Season 4 was my favourite as well, you start the series off with a tight group of friends and by the end they all exchange roles and all but two split up, when i saw Wee-bay's son sitting on his new parent's stoop, shaking his head at the Gangsters passing by i got chills.
Ocular
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada141 Posts
August 19 2010 19:26 GMT
#164
This show taught me how to sell drugs better lol
In the land of make believe you are mine, in the land of make believe I'm doing fine...
CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
August 19 2010 20:34 GMT
#165
i'm really surprised how many people like season 4. thinking about it the way sammler describes it makes me appreciate it a little more i guess, but this how i thought about it when i was watching it: they took out the most compelling character completely (mcnulty), re-introduced a weak character who had almost been completely written off the show earlier (prez), and then turned half of what was once a gripping cop show into elementary hour.

i know the show wasn't that popular while it was airing, but i wonder how their season 4 ratings did. the next season they brought mcnulty back in the forefront drunker than ever and prez is re-written out of the show.
By the way, my name is Funk. I am not of your world
sharkeyanti
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1273 Posts
August 19 2010 23:37 GMT
#166
Because of it being easily typified as a cop drama and the season 1 focus on McNulty it can be difficult to view the show in other ways, but the creators see the show as less a cop drama and more of a meditation on modern cities and living. It's not that Prez is some replacement lead for McNulty, rather they chose to focus on different aspects of Baltimore, and he fit into the plot that way. It's pretty clear Prez's story arc in season 4 is not the driving force behind the season's power, rather he is an acute observer.
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HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
August 19 2010 23:51 GMT
#167
Anyone know a site that streams this? :O
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Karliath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2214 Posts
August 20 2010 02:03 GMT
#168
I guess I'll give it a try.
snotboogie
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia3550 Posts
August 20 2010 03:53 GMT
#169
On August 20 2010 02:54 Hot_Bid wrote:
last week TheMango and i were in NYC and we bumped into the actor who plays Marlo. i recognized him from behind from his walk and confirmed it by looking at his face, we go up to him and shake his hand and say YO MAN WE LOVE YOUR SHOW. he seemed genuinely happy we recognized him hehe.


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OhJesusWOW
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom127 Posts
August 20 2010 03:58 GMT
#170
I never saw the show on my own time, but when I was in film school my Screen Writing III professor would show the class clips and episodes all the time. Apparently the show had good writers. I've continued to hear good things about 'The Wire' ever since. Maybe I should watch a season...
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snotboogie
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia3550 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-20 04:45:26
August 20 2010 04:09 GMT
#171
On August 20 2010 05:34 CTStalker wrote:
i'm really surprised how many people like season 4. thinking about it the way sammler describes it makes me appreciate it a little more i guess, but this how i thought about it when i was watching it: they took out the most compelling character completely (mcnulty), re-introduced a weak character who had almost been completely written off the show earlier (prez), and then turned half of what was once a gripping cop show into elementary hour.

i know the show wasn't that popular while it was airing, but i wonder how their season 4 ratings did. the next season they brought mcnulty back in the forefront drunker than ever and prez is re-written out of the show.


The creators had a plan of all 5 seasons before they even began filming. Their aim was to piece by piece examine how broken postindustrial urban society is, and they planned to do it by, I quote, "masquerading as a cop show"... and they had planned season 4 to be what it was before season 1 was shot.

But it's not a cop show. It's literally a 60 hour long visual novel examining the failed institutions of the 20th/21st Century, the "war" on drugs, and how they destroy lives, and Season 4 is the climax where one realizes that even from the age of schoolchildren, people who were born into that situation are damned to live out the same broken cycle all over again. It's a piece damning society, really.

Everyone dies or is locked up, and in Season 4 new players fill their roles and the allegorical chess game is always the same - the series has come full circle. The very best police (McNulty, Freamon), the ones who break hierarchy to get their job done - all they can do is lock up a kingpin (Avon), which creates a power vacuum and as a direct result more people die (the Vacants) as a new king asserts himself (Marlo). Youth like Randy, Dukie and Michael get caught in the crossfire, their cruel fates assigned to them from the powers that be - ruthless drug criminals and lame, impotent institutions (the Group Homes, the Police, in Dukie's case the schools themselves) which were meant to help them. Only by the extraordinary efforts of one man does anyone escape the cycle at all - and ironically it's the one kid who probably deserved it least (if there is such a thing as a kid not deserving to be saved... though would you really have wanted Namond to be the one saved, if you could have chosen Dukie or Randy?)

Prez in this season acts as the conduit through whose eyes we the audience can observe the messed up situation. He's not the main character, he's us, witnessing. And his storyline is one of very few hopeful ones - I wouldn't have cared if Prez got killed in Season 1, but I valued him as a person by this season's end. And in a show as gloomy as this one, hell I'll take all the hope I can get.
uga
Profile Joined August 2010
United States11 Posts
August 21 2010 14:23 GMT
#172
season 2 is definitely different bc it follows the docks.....but anyways the wire is one of the best shows...much better than Lost or anything like that....season 4 is my favorite...but season 1 with avon is sick. i would say the wire is better than the sopranos
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-23 08:50:13
August 23 2010 08:41 GMT
#173
Michael Lee becoming the new Omar was the final surprise scene of the series. The new defense lawyer and the judge was an interesting scene as well.

The two most compelling seasons were one and four. Season one was about the dysfunction of the police departments. Season four was about the dysfunction of the education system. Season four though is also one of the most realistic depictions along with season two depicting the blight of major manufacturing cities and commercial ports.

Just wondering how Cheese got free in that last episode to get popped.
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heishe
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany2284 Posts
August 23 2010 11:01 GMT
#174
On August 23 2010 17:41 TanGeng wrote:
Michael Lee becoming the new Omar was the final surprise scene of the series. The new defense lawyer and the judge was an interesting scene as well.



The whole ending on the last episode was awesome. They basically recreated some scenes from the first season (word-by-word if I remember correctly) to show that the cycle continues.
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Gatsbi
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1134 Posts
August 23 2010 20:54 GMT
#175
"How my hair look Mike?"
"You look good, girl"
*BAM*

such an amazing amazing show
"IF WHAT YOU DO NOT KNOW IS MORE THAN WHAT YOU HAVE KNOWN. THEN YOU HAVE NOT KNOWN ANYTHINIG YET." - Rev Kojo Smith
kaisen
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States601 Posts
August 23 2010 20:56 GMT
#176
Funny how they never captured the Greek.
Jinsin5
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada44 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-23 21:08:35
August 23 2010 21:08 GMT
#177
On August 20 2010 05:34 CTStalker wrote:
I know the show wasn't that popular while it was airing, but i wonder how their season 4 ratings did. the next season they brought mcnulty back in the forefront drunker than ever and prez is re-written out of the show.


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The writing staff of the fourth season was nominated for two awards at the 2008 Writer's Guild of America Awards - best dramatic series and best episodic drama for the episode "Final Grades" (story by David Simon and Ed Burns, teleplay by David Simon)


The fourth season of The Wire has almost been universally lauded and hailed as one of the best seasons of television ever produced. As of July 2010, it is the highest rated TV season of all time on Metacritic with a score of 98, outscoring even The Sopranos, another HBO series of far greater fame and notoriety


I believe this was the only awards the show won as well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wire_(season_4)#Reception
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
August 23 2010 21:55 GMT
#178
On August 20 2010 08:51 HeavOnEarth wrote:
Anyone know a site that streams this? :O


http://tvshack.cc/tv/The_Wire/

Every episode sitting right there waiting to be watched ^_^
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KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14899 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-23 22:13:46
August 23 2010 22:13 GMT
#179
On August 23 2010 17:41 TanGeng wrote:
Michael Lee becoming the new Omar was the final surprise scene of the series. The new defense lawyer and the judge was an interesting scene as well.

The two most compelling seasons were one and four. Season one was about the dysfunction of the police departments. Season four was about the dysfunction of the education system. Season four though is also one of the most realistic depictions along with season two depicting the blight of major manufacturing cities and commercial ports.

Just wondering how Cheese got free in that last episode to get popped.


he was out on bail
he never went back to get sentenced
fujimi
Profile Joined August 2010
Japan32 Posts
August 24 2010 07:41 GMT
#180
This... Series... Progresses... So... Slowly..!

But yeah, still a great show. Has a real 1990's feel to it, even though it was made after 2k..

I watched The Misfits before I started watching The Wire, so my standard for being mentally satisfied have been kicked up a few notches. Can't wait for season 2 of The Misfits..!
If only those pigs could fly away..
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