On November 29 2009 06:16 Mischy wrote: -Reactionary fanboyism alert- + Show Spoiler +
Star Trek TNG has more depth than any show ever made, like twice as much as even the best contenders. Even though The Wire is sick, TNG is clearly the best TV show ever made.
On November 29 2009 07:56 .risingdragoon wrote: how about talking about some of the facts and ideas in the show?
opening theme's what I skip through to get to the real show
Fact:
There's too much advertising in the show. Instead of focusing on some deeper segments of the plot, I can't stop thinking about Dunkin Donuts, MicroSoft Word '97, Halo 2 etc.
Fact2:
It's probably not the problem of the show but US in general but it pains me to see how they're "americanizing" all of the european surnames (namely: Carcetti and all people with polish heritage).
Pryzbylewski being the king of it. We don't have surnames like that. The closest thing I can think of in Poland to this surname would be Przybylski or Przybylewski (less likely).
I believe they change it so that they can pronounce it. But instead of being so ignorant, they could just ask someone and it's not so hard to pronounce as/close to original if you know what you're looking at: Przybylski = Psheebeelsky (should be close enough)
On November 29 2009 07:56 .risingdragoon wrote: how about talking about some of the facts and ideas in the show?
opening theme's what I skip through to get to the real show
Fact:
There's too much advertising in the show. Instead of focusing on some deeper segments of the plot, I can't stop thinking about Dunkin Donuts, MicroSoft Word '97, Halo 2 etc.
Fact2:
It's probably not the problem of the show but US in general but it pains me to see how they're "americanizing" all of the european surnames (namely: Carcetti and all people with polish heritage).
Pryzbylewski being the king of it. We don't have surnames like that. The closest thing I can think of in Poland to this surname would be Przybylski or Przybylewski (less likely).
I believe they change it so that they can pronounce it. But instead of being so ignorant, they could just ask someone and it's not so hard to pronounce as/close to original if you know what you're looking at: Przybylski = Psheebeelsky (should be close enough)
About 1: I dont even remember it so it cant have been THAT bad
About 2: Yeah I guess that is an american thing. Whenever I hear somebody speak "German" in an american tv-show it sounds like they just took an english text and translated it via google, resulting in completely fucked up grammar etc. I mean how hard can it be to get someone who speaks German in all of the United States of America?
Anyways, the reason why I came to this thread: Today while "studying" in the library I realised something Carcetti = Obama. They have so many similarities. They are both the first person with their colour of skin to be in the political position they're in (in the case of baltimore at least the first white guy in a while) Both their mottos are Change, both believe they can change things and stop all the corruption etc. pp. but when they finally achieve their great goal and become president/mayor they soon find out it doesn't quite work out that way and you have to do compromises and its a little disappointing with both of em... something to think about lol
On November 29 2009 07:56 .risingdragoon wrote: how about talking about some of the facts and ideas in the show?
opening theme's what I skip through to get to the real show
Fact:
There's too much advertising in the show. Instead of focusing on some deeper segments of the plot, I can't stop thinking about Dunkin Donuts, MicroSoft Word '97, Halo 2 etc.
Fact2:
It's probably not the problem of the show but US in general but it pains me to see how they're "americanizing" all of the european surnames (namely: Carcetti and all people with polish heritage).
Pryzbylewski being the king of it. We don't have surnames like that. The closest thing I can think of in Poland to this surname would be Przybylski or Przybylewski (less likely).
I believe they change it so that they can pronounce it. But instead of being so ignorant, they could just ask someone and it's not so hard to pronounce as/close to original if you know what you're looking at: Przybylski = Psheebeelsky (should be close enough)
About 1: I dont even remember it so it cant have been THAT bad
About 2: Yeah I guess that is an american thing. Whenever I hear somebody speak "German" in an american tv-show it sounds like they just took an english text and translated it via google, resulting in completely fucked up grammar etc. I mean how hard can it be to get someone who speaks German in all of the United States of America?
Anyways, the reason why I came to this thread: Today while "studying" in the library I realised something Carcetti = Obama. They have so many similarities. They are both the first person with their colour of skin to be in the political position they're in (in the case of baltimore at least the first white guy in a while) Both their mottos are Change, both believe they can change things and stop all the corruption etc. pp. but when they finally achieve their great goal and become president/mayor they soon find out it doesn't quite work out that way and you have to do compromises and its a little disappointing with both of em... something to think about lol
That can't be right.
David Simon's The Wire is a depiction of the regional level institution and why it doesn't change. Specifically Carcetti is an example of the upward ambition coming into conflict with doing right by ordinary citizens who got him there. This is referenced very well in the show with jimmy telling wonda "if you lawyers didn't all want to be judges and instead grew some backbone..."
Obama doesn't need to aspire for anymore promotions cus there is no higher office than the presidency. And it hasn't even been a year yet.
I just watched the first three episodes again last night, and am going to slowly go through the whole thing again via Netflix (I'm honestly tempted to shell out the $125 to get the complete series on DVD so I can watch it all in a couple sittings). I have to say, a lot of shows can be enjoyable on a second viewing, but The Wire holds up so amazingly well. In just the first three episodes, I caught many little details that I had missed when I first started the show a few years back.
If anyone hasn't watched The Wire yet, drop what you're doing and pick this show up.
the wire also had some amazing shoot out scenes that were really thrilling, probably the most thrilling gun scenes to ever put in a tv show (or movie for that matter), also running and chase scenes are fricking amazing in the series, ahh its so good.
cause i just watched david simons the corner from the 2000s, its a hbo miniseries of 6 eps, kinda like a pilot to the wire? well it has some of the actors and content aspects of the wire but it shows only the drug part and not so much police work and it has like only 1 gun/run scene in the whole series and i was just blown away by how good that single action sequence was. no one got shot at the end, but the filming of it was purely genuine and it also always is like that in the wire.
yea now ill watch the 7 season monster series called homicide life on the streets, its like a million years old but its written and created by simon and his crew, so im sure its good.
i watched all 5 seasons of this recently. It's by far the best drama TV show i've ever seen, and i think it does a really good job of showing how cities run, and how people manipulate and strategize against each other.
Greatest show ever. I've rewatched the whole thing three times and going for a fourth soon. Each time I rewatch, there's always subtle stuff I missed before. This show is so incredibly deep.
On a related note I've seen Wire alumni around the place but Robert Chew who plays Prop Joe is nowhere to be seen in any shows! I miss the Fat Man.
best series ever created, no discussion needed imo,and it's going to be a long fucking while before anything even comes close to this one. and this comes from a LOSt fanboy who watched every LOST episode twice immediately when I downloaded to catch every detail and then spent hours discussing the show. then, a few weeks ago after the lost finale, I watched the 5 seasons of The Wire and was so blown away by this show I still can't believe it.
The shows plot is perfectly cut out, one plot element leads smoothly into the next without any logical stumblings along the way. There are literally NO throwaway scenes without meaning in the entire show, even the smallest, at a first glance meaningless, 30 second scene usually serves as a perfect comedic relieve at the exactly perfect time, something that you just don't find in any other series (remember all the entire throwaway episodes on X-Files?). There are also a shitload of "OMG THIS MUST BE THE BEST SCENE I'VE EVER SEEN ON ANY TV SHOW" moments in this series it's unbelievable (the chess explanation, the "fuck fuck fuckedy fuck" scene of Bunk and Jimmy... endless more).Important plot lines are usually brought to an ending in a very subtle, yet immensely powerful way. Just think of how ******SPOILER******** Omar died, ordering a pack of cigarettes, the camera resting its view on his face, 5 seconds complete silence and then a headshot which can only be described as uncanny, since it was both expected and unexpected at the same time. This also is literally the ONLY TV series I've ever seen where I can feel sympathy for every single motherfucking character on the screen (which doesn't mean that I "like" every character, it's just that you never get the feeling that any character has to die immediately because he's totally pissing you off, like we all did with Kate in Lost or with any character in most television series out there), be it "secretly gay, funny laugh" Rawls (by the way I wonder why his gayness was never mentioned again after we saw him in that gay bar in the background of the screen), "fat frog mouth" Burell or "blowjob in the office" Mayor Royce. And thats a big fucking deed in a show which lists 37 major characters in the cast. Not to mention the realism of the show of course.
Theres so much more to be said about the awesomeness of this show, but anyways... /fanboyrant
tl;dr; cliffnotes: whenever I see police depicted in other televion series nowadays (Dexter for example) I cringe , because it looks so fucking fake compared to The Wire.
With his party having won 6 of the City Council’s 15 seats, Mr. Gnarr needed a coalition partner, but ruled out any party whose members had not seen all five seasons of “The Wire.”
With his party having won 6 of the City Council’s 15 seats, Mr. Gnarr needed a coalition partner, but ruled out any party whose members had not seen all five seasons of “The Wire.”
I voted for him! The wire is the best show ever made!
With his party having won 6 of the City Council’s 15 seats, Mr. Gnarr needed a coalition partner, but ruled out any party whose members had not seen all five seasons of “The Wire.”
I voted for him! The wire is the best show ever made!
LOL that is fricking awesome. I wish there was a Wire maniac here that I could vote for.
took about 2 weeks, but just finished watching the whole series pretty awesome although there were a lot of points where i just wanted to punch certain people in the series