EPTOn May 08 2013 10:59 Waxangel wrote:
really underwhelming trailer :/
really underwhelming trailer :/
Couldn't agree more. Doesn't look good at all.
[Movie] Ender's Game - Page 18
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ziggurat
Canada847 Posts
Couldn't agree more. Doesn't look good at all. | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On May 08 2013 11:36 WolfintheSheep wrote: What? There is an entire segment in the denouement devoted to Graff and Rackham being put to trial for essentially child abuse (they get off because the prosecution can't prove the war wouldn't have been won without such extreme measures). There are multiple conversations between Graff and the Battle School administrator about how far they're pushing Ender, with the administrator almost explicitly (or explicitly?) saying they're ruining a child. I'm pretty sure there's even a bit at the beginning when Ender first leaves his family where the parents talk about them taking away a child. While it certainly wasn't the main focus, it was still something repeated multiple times. Yes, but the part of what made the movie so good was that Ender was NOT self-aware of his standing. Yes, everyone else knew or had an inkling, but they never told him about it. The Ender in that trailer is like aware of what is going on, that's changes the whole premise of the story. | ||
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coverpunch
United States2093 Posts
On May 08 2013 11:36 WolfintheSheep wrote: What? There is an entire segment in the denouement devoted to Graff and Rackham being put to trial for essentially child abuse (they get off because the prosecution can't prove the war wouldn't have been won without such extreme measures). There are multiple conversations between Graff and the Battle School administrator about how far they're pushing Ender, with the administrator almost explicitly (or explicitly?) saying they're ruining a child. I'm pretty sure there's even a bit at the beginning when Ender first leaves his family where the parents talk about them taking away a child. While it certainly wasn't the main focus, it was still something repeated multiple times. But this is in the context of manipulation, we're not supposed to be horrified by the idea of the Battle School training child soldiers. The distinction is that IRL child soldiers are generally used as cannon fodder in front of proper adult soldiers (which is what makes it an atrocity) while Ender's Game children are being trained to lead the army. But it's still a funny thing that Harrison Ford says in all seriousness that humanity is desperate and we need a new kind of soldier, then you see a montage of 10 year old kids. | ||
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Noro
Canada991 Posts
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xXFireandIceXx
Canada4296 Posts
On May 08 2013 11:47 ziggurat wrote: Couldn't agree more. Doesn't look good at all. Really...?!?!! Looks so sick | ||
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Jonoman92
United States9111 Posts
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Noro
Canada991 Posts
Finally! Someone with some sense in this thread! I agree good sir. | ||
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EpiK
Korea (South)5757 Posts
this looks terrible | ||
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Alabasern
United States4005 Posts
On May 08 2013 12:31 Noro wrote: Finally! Someone with some sense in this thread! I agree good sir. Looks aren't everything...and all I can think of is the "Avatar" movie for example. Good effects, child actors, big mistakes... | ||
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Noro
Canada991 Posts
On May 08 2013 12:39 Alabasern wrote: Looks aren't everything...and all I can think of is the "Avatar" movie for example. Good effects, child actors, big mistakes... Ender's game without child actors would be a pretty strange movie if you ask me... Good child actors is a thing. Go look at Game of Thrones for example. | ||
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Alabasern
United States4005 Posts
On May 08 2013 12:50 Noro wrote: Ender's game without child actors would be a pretty strange movie if you ask me... Good child actors is a thing. Go look at Game of Thrones for example. Arya, Brandon, and Joffrey are good, yeah yeah...but they're not acting in the leading role of a movie. I understand the task can be done by a child, but I agree with someone earlier about the book's main theme was Ender's improvement and imagination. | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
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Sabu113
United States11112 Posts
On May 08 2013 12:53 Alabasern wrote: Arya, Brandon, and Joffrey are good, yeah yeah...but they're not acting in the leading role of a movie. I understand the task can be done by a child, but I agree with someone earlier about the book's main theme was Ender's improvement and imagination. Joffery is not half as young as you think he is. Arya, Bran and Sansa are the impressive children. | ||
BisuDagger
Bisutopia19399 Posts
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mufin
United States616 Posts
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ziggurat
Canada847 Posts
On May 08 2013 13:33 mufin wrote: damn you guys are negative..do you dismiss every movie whose trailer isn't up to your standards? No, but it's a lot easier to make a really good trailer than to make a really good movie. If the trailer isn't that good it's a bad sign for the movie imo. | ||
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-NegativeZero-
United States2142 Posts
The trailer spoiled the end of the book where Ender suicides his army to focus fire the alien homeworld - also it doesn't even seem to try to disguise it as a training simulation, which was the entire point of the book... | ||
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synapse
China13814 Posts
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StayPhrosty
Canada406 Posts
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19399 Posts
On May 08 2013 13:57 -NegativeZero- wrote: + Show Spoiler + The trailer spoiled the end of the book where Ender suicides his army to focus fire the alien homeworld - also it doesn't even seem to try to disguise it as a training simulation, which was the entire point of the book... Yeah I made the same observation as in your spoiler. I can't believe they did that! | ||
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