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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
March 24 2013 20:20 GMT
#1201
Oh, and if Baam is installing a bomb unknowingly, it appears some team or faction is attempting to assassinate our protagonist.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Asol
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden109 Posts
March 25 2013 00:12 GMT
#1202
Haha, Laure image was pretty funny! :D
Quote what?
Deleted User 45971
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
533 Posts
March 25 2013 13:26 GMT
#1203
On March 18 2013 10:44 NPF wrote:
I feel like we learned a lot from this chapter. Not to mention the silence that Ran Koon showed after talking to Jyu Viole Grace makes me think he might have made the connection between Jyu Viole Grace being Baam; since, like Aegis Koon he would know it would take an Irregular to kill Zahard, and Baam was an Irregular and after the last chapter this slayer candidate is acquainted with Koon, so I'd would all line up.


The slayers are for killing all the family heads and not just Zahard. Only Zahard requires an irregular. Afaik no one knows that Viole is specifically meant for Zahard, so they might suspect it but he might just be a regular who is very strong selected for the ability to bring down some family head.
aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
March 25 2013 14:21 GMT
#1204
On March 25 2013 22:26 Potatisodlaren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2013 10:44 NPF wrote:
I feel like we learned a lot from this chapter. Not to mention the silence that Ran Koon showed after talking to Jyu Viole Grace makes me think he might have made the connection between Jyu Viole Grace being Baam; since, like Aegis Koon he would know it would take an Irregular to kill Zahard, and Baam was an Irregular and after the last chapter this slayer candidate is acquainted with Koon, so I'd would all line up.


The slayers are for killing all the family heads and not just Zahard. Only Zahard requires an irregular. Afaik no one knows that Viole is specifically meant for Zahard, so they might suspect it but he might just be a regular who is very strong selected for the ability to bring down some family head.

Family heads with the exception of Bloodmadder are also granted immortality by guardians afaik
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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-25 16:02:31
March 25 2013 16:02 GMT
#1205
^you have a source? Don't remember reading that anywhere. Plus don't they have a thing about heirs or succession? That wouldn't be necessary if they were immortal.
ProV1
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States980 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-25 16:45:23
March 25 2013 16:35 GMT
#1206
On March 26 2013 01:02 DystopiaX wrote:
^you have a source? Don't remember reading that anywhere. Plus don't they have a thing about heirs or succession? That wouldn't be necessary if they were immortal.



http://towerofgod.wikia.com/wiki/100th_Floor

If you have immortality, it seems like family members are more used to build the status of your family and make it stronger(more rankers, high rankers) and like an army, and make them do all your shitty work while you go rest or bang all day long as royalty.

Also, SIU says he's slowing down the pace of the story. Seems like another 100 chapter 30th floor, which is second floor all over again.
Deleted User 45971
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
533 Posts
March 25 2013 16:55 GMT
#1207
If that's true then there are 11 irregulars we haven't heard about, but from what I understand these people aren't talked about at all when people talk about irregulars. Since some slayers are known but then they must also be known irregulars?

http://towerofgod.wikia.com/wiki/Grace_Mirchea_Luslec
http://towerofgod.wikia.com/wiki/Karaka


Haven't pretty much everyone said that Baam is the most recent irregular in a long time since Urek/Phanta?
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
March 25 2013 21:07 GMT
#1208
Not all slayers are irregulars though.

I wouldn't mind another floor of test-like long floor arc. That shit was fun...although I don't like the team composition right now, I hate that baam is on a team of assholes.
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-25 21:17:27
March 25 2013 21:16 GMT
#1209
Oh come on guys it's not that hard:
10 Slayers to kill 10 family heads. Yes, the family heads have been granted immortality, but probably it's only a protection against aging. Family heads can be killed by someone stronger. (but afaik,. the Slayers are still pretty weak, compared to the heads)

Zahard has an additional contract which makes him impossible to be killed by anyone.
And that's why FUG needs atleast one member who is able to breach the Tower's laws and contracts. And irregulars are such persons. That's why they need Baam so he can fulfill FUG's wishes.
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arcane1129
Profile Joined January 2011
United States271 Posts
March 25 2013 21:20 GMT
#1210
On March 26 2013 06:07 DystopiaX wrote:
Not all slayers are irregulars though.

I wouldn't mind another floor of test-like long floor arc. That shit was fun...although I don't like the team composition right now, I hate that baam is on a team of assholes.


I like it...the genius team where most of the people hate each other, the team of losers that act like a family + koon, and baam's original team that think koon + baam are dead all competing.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
March 25 2013 23:52 GMT
#1211
Immortality is a fickle thing in the Tower. Even Guardians who gave immortality to people, and supposedly immortal themselves had one killed by Enryu. The Tower is never absolute, and Irregulars are the perfect example to this. They are not obligated to obey the laws of the Tower, and for such a reason, recruited by FUG to assassinate the Family Heads.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Xenocide_Knight
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Korea (South)2625 Posts
March 26 2013 06:45 GMT
#1212
On March 26 2013 06:20 arcane1129 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2013 06:07 DystopiaX wrote:
Not all slayers are irregulars though.

I wouldn't mind another floor of test-like long floor arc. That shit was fun...although I don't like the team composition right now, I hate that baam is on a team of assholes.


I like it...the genius team where most of the people hate each other, the team of losers that act like a family + koon, and baam's original team that think koon + baam are dead all competing.

Koon really has his work cut out for him.
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Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
March 26 2013 07:21 GMT
#1213
On March 26 2013 08:52 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Immortality is a fickle thing in the Tower. Even Guardians who gave immortality to people, and supposedly immortal themselves had one killed by Enryu. The Tower is never absolute, and Irregulars are the perfect example to this. They are not obligated to obey the laws of the Tower, and for such a reason, recruited by FUG to assassinate the Family Heads.

You guysare probally just confusing eternal youth with immortality (or well, it really makes it easier to understand why Zahard is immortal/invincible even if the rest won't die of old age)
In the woods, there lurks..
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
March 26 2013 07:41 GMT
#1214
just glad to see androssi talk again.
ToG y u so guuuuud
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Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2539 Posts
March 26 2013 14:24 GMT
#1215
I don't seem to understand Rachel at all. At one point she is a kind character, at another she's a maniac. I'm guessing FUG recruited her before she killed Bam but that wouldn't really make a person go yandere and cripple someone with no real provocation. Also doesn't this mean Headon is also a patron of FUG for his involvement?
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arcane1129
Profile Joined January 2011
United States271 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-26 14:47:58
March 26 2013 14:45 GMT
#1216
On March 26 2013 23:24 Hyperbola wrote:
I don't seem to understand Rachel at all. At one point she is a kind character, at another she's a maniac. I'm guessing FUG recruited her before she killed Bam but that wouldn't really make a person go yandere and cripple someone with no real provocation. Also doesn't this mean Headon is also a patron of FUG for his involvement?


No one understands yet. It probably has to do with Baam's origin (many suspect he was created by Enryu) and why he was in the pit at the start.

Regarding Rachel, FUG asked her if she wanted to be the heroine of the "story," and she faked her own injury to get others to do the work of climbing the tower for her. It seems she's all about herself and just views other people as tools, but who knows why FUG is helping her.

On the first page, she mentions something about wanting to be reborn (assuming the translation is accurate), and for whatever reason she's obsessed with the stars. http://www.batoto.net/read/_/7/tower-of-god_v1_ch1_by_the-company

It's possible that FUG is forcing Rachel to act this way in order to develop Baam. After all, she may have known that when she pushed Baam he was going to be fine and she did leave Dan alive + he may be able to recover fully, though I imagine it's going to be quite a while before we find out anything.

+ Show Spoiler +
Alternatively she may just fucked in the head, was keeping Baam in the pit as a pet for her amusement, and enjoys betraying/stabbing people
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2539 Posts
March 26 2013 15:19 GMT
#1217
On March 26 2013 23:45 arcane1129 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2013 23:24 Hyperbola wrote:
I don't seem to understand Rachel at all. At one point she is a kind character, at another she's a maniac. I'm guessing FUG recruited her before she killed Bam but that wouldn't really make a person go yandere and cripple someone with no real provocation. Also doesn't this mean Headon is also a patron of FUG for his involvement?


No one understands yet. It probably has to do with Baam's origin (many suspect he was created by Enryu) and why he was in the pit at the start.

Regarding Rachel, FUG asked her if she wanted to be the heroine of the "story," and she faked her own injury to get others to do the work of climbing the tower for her. It seems she's all about herself and just views other people as tools, but who knows why FUG is helping her.

On the first page, she mentions something about wanting to be reborn (assuming the translation is accurate), and for whatever reason she's obsessed with the stars. http://www.batoto.net/read/_/7/tower-of-god_v1_ch1_by_the-company

It's possible that FUG is forcing Rachel to act this way in order to develop Baam. After all, she may have known that when she pushed Baam he was going to be fine and she did leave Dan alive + he may be able to recover fully, though I imagine it's going to be quite a while before we find out anything.

+ Show Spoiler +
Alternatively she may just fucked in the head, was keeping Baam in the pit as a pet for her amusement, and enjoys betraying/stabbing people

I think the self centered theory makes the most sense. That would explain why she would freak out if someone rejected her like Dan did and also why she would sacrifice her friends to climb the tower.
I'm still wondering about Headon though. He told Rachel that he could make her the heroine of the story in much the same way that the guide from FUG did. So does this mean that Headon is after Jahad's head? Maybe he's doing it for the good of the tower? Either way I really like him and his design.
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Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
March 26 2013 15:20 GMT
#1218
We know she has a HUGE ambition to see the stars (which is why she left Baam in the first place, where she still held affection for him)

AS for the rest, go read the chapter where the headon-rachel flashback is, I don't think it's more advanced than that
In the woods, there lurks..
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
March 26 2013 16:49 GMT
#1219
On March 26 2013 23:24 Hyperbola wrote:
I don't seem to understand Rachel at all. At one point she is a kind character, at another she's a maniac. I'm guessing FUG recruited her before she killed Bam but that wouldn't really make a person go yandere and cripple someone with no real provocation. Also doesn't this mean Headon is also a patron of FUG for his involvement?

I think that SIU has Rachel's whole backstory and plotline figured out, and we're not supposed to know why she went crazy yet. I feel like it's gonna be some kind of turn where the justification for her doing these things makes her seem like a good person in the end, but who knows.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
March 26 2013 19:08 GMT
#1220
Rachel has her selfish ambitions, and all she wants to do is see the stars regardless of her actions or affiliations. She certainly is a complex character because she acts as a vulnerable and crippled person, though she clearly has her mobility and strength intact. I expect her to have a more interesting role in the future as the double-faced teammate willing to sacrifice anybody for her goals.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
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