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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
March 09 2017 00:04 GMT
#3201
That was a lot of backstory explanation. I'm getting tired of prophecies though, wish we could get stories without them. Nice to get a better picture of Enryu at least.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
March 09 2017 00:26 GMT
#3202
On March 09 2017 00:46 Hyperbola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2017 17:33 jinfreaks wrote:
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I just want to entertain the possibility of something on the subject of irregulars. As this chapter mentioned, there were originally 13 irregulars that first came into the tower: the 10 Families, Jahad, Arlene Grace, and "V" (Viole)

Of the original 13, each had some type of deal for immortality save for two, one being "V" and the other Family member was required to sacrifice the lifespan of his offspring to extend his life. However, it seems strange the "V" didn't have immortality, or made some other deal instead.

Come a few centuries aside from Urek, there were two more irregulars: Phantaminium infamous for invading Jahad's palace, and Enryu who destroyed the 43rd floor. Is it possible that Arlene is actually Phantaminium? This explains the massacre in Jahad's palace. And that Enryu is actually the reincarnation of "V?" After all every irregular of the original jahad troupe received some mechanism to live longer. It's mentioned that the land Arlene loved was defiled, hence prompting Enryu's (or "V's") rage.

Still wondering what is rachel's role in this and how she knew Arlene.

Urek is easily explained as Eminem trapped in the ToG universe. We already have Daft Punk so why not?

As for Enryu, he's a "messenger of God" so I think he's just a dude with admin powers.

One thing I can't explain is where all the sudden melodrama comes from. This G rated manga is suddenly trying to be dark and edgy.


It's definitely not G rated. Characters were dying almost immediately.

It also turned dark almost immediately, when baam finally caught up to Rachel and then she cast him aside in betrayal. Since then it's had numerous other dark moments.
herMan
Profile Joined November 2010
Japan2053 Posts
March 09 2017 06:28 GMT
#3203
I never got too much of a lighthearted vibe from this manhwa. I mean I remember in the beginning of season 2 or whatever when Koon's team was betrayed and his speed runner mate's achilles tendons were cut.
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
March 09 2017 07:51 GMT
#3204
what about in the untrustworthy room when nia was beaten to death by loan shark guy
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
March 09 2017 12:07 GMT
#3205
I guess it's not dark in the way that deaths mostly occur off screen or the bodies are essentially depicted as sleeping bodies, combined with the extremely indifferent way deaths are generally treated in the world. For instance, during the fights for the train tickets, hundreds appear to have been killed, but nobody appears to care.
Beany
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands396 Posts
March 09 2017 13:01 GMT
#3206
Tower of God is just like Game of Thrones.
You either win or you die.
Rejoice, for very bad things are about to happen!
Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
March 09 2017 15:23 GMT
#3207
On March 09 2017 22:01 Beany wrote:
Tower of God is just like Game of Thrones.
You either win or you die.


Best quote ever
Failure is not an option
herMan
Profile Joined November 2010
Japan2053 Posts
March 09 2017 15:40 GMT
#3208
On March 09 2017 21:07 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
I guess it's not dark in the way that deaths mostly occur off screen or the bodies are essentially depicted as sleeping bodies, combined with the extremely indifferent way deaths are generally treated in the world. For instance, during the fights for the train tickets, hundreds appear to have been killed, but nobody appears to care.


Your latter point is precisely one of the reasons I like this series: no one gives a fuck about what happens to people outside of Team Us. It's a dog eat dog world out there fueled by self-interest, and thus Baam is perceived as a weird dude because he genuinely cares. I'm very glad he's matured during the series and I hope he's gonna be forced to make tough calls in the future regarding his "code".

I especially liked that the author started killing off the protagonists' friends (Boro and Prince), it really gives weight to the concept that climbing the tower really has a price.
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2539 Posts
March 09 2017 15:49 GMT
#3209
ToG is not dark. It's like a fairy tale. It follows the classic "lawful good character of prophecy will defeat the big bad" setup and doesn't deal with mature themes like GoT and doesn't have the psychological factor of many senin. If you want to read a "dark" manga I would suggest something like Homunculus or anything by Naoki Urasawa. Those are dark, ToG is a lighthearted shonen.
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
March 09 2017 16:54 GMT
#3210
On March 10 2017 00:49 Hyperbola wrote:
ToG is not dark. It's like a fairy tale. It follows the classic "lawful good character of prophecy will defeat the big bad" setup and doesn't deal with mature themes like GoT and doesn't have the psychological factor of many senin. If you want to read a "dark" manga I would suggest something like Homunculus or anything by Naoki Urasawa. Those are dark, ToG is a lighthearted shonen.


dude where are you getting this from

the entire premise of ToG is that people are trapped in a giant tower fighting for their lives trying to find a way out

the backstory of the main character is that he was trapped in a dark cave for their whole life, with only one person to attach to, and then that person casts him away like nothing

just because the author tries to make the story accessible in a way that doesn't make the average reader nauseous does not mean the story isn't dark
Beany
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands396 Posts
March 09 2017 17:52 GMT
#3211
That what is dark for one is grey for another.
It's no use getting into arguments with another.
Rejoice, for very bad things are about to happen!
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 09 2017 19:08 GMT
#3212
They're not trapped, thousands of people live a perfectly normal life in the tower. Nothing stops the regulars from settling once they've reached a certain floor too. They tend to be well-off too because after reaching certain floors they get privileges.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
March 10 2017 15:36 GMT
#3213
On March 10 2017 04:08 Alaric wrote:
They're not trapped, thousands of people live a perfectly normal life in the tower. Nothing stops the regulars from settling once they've reached a certain floor too. They tend to be well-off too because after reaching certain floors they get privileges.


you can live a pretty normal life in the middle area of the tower, but if you want to climb then it's pretty brutal competition.

i wouldn't say ToG is dark in the explicit "this world is so fucked" way, but it's definitely not a happy ending shonen story.
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
March 14 2017 14:23 GMT
#3214
This last chapter was my favorite so far. Enryu destroying the administrator looked freaking awesome. It's such a mystery why he hasn't killed zahard.

maybe zahard is actually more powerful than we think?
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
March 14 2017 21:09 GMT
#3215
On March 14 2017 23:23 travis wrote:
This last chapter was my favorite so far. Enryu destroying the administrator looked freaking awesome. It's such a mystery why he hasn't killed zahard.

maybe zahard is actually more powerful than we think?

He's ranked as 3rd most powerful ranker in the tower, I think we think that's pretty damn strong. It's higher than Urek. Enryu destroying the entire floor gave me nerdchills though. Epic.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Diavlo
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium2915 Posts
March 14 2017 21:34 GMT
#3216
On March 15 2017 06:09 Scip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2017 23:23 travis wrote:
This last chapter was my favorite so far. Enryu destroying the administrator looked freaking awesome. It's such a mystery why he hasn't killed zahard.

maybe zahard is actually more powerful than we think?

He's ranked as 3rd most powerful ranker in the tower, I think we think that's pretty damn strong. It's higher than Urek. Enryu destroying the entire floor gave me nerdchills though. Epic.

His strength compared to Urek and Enryu is unknown, Enryu is ranked 2nd because he killed a guardian which was thought to be impossible and Urek is ranked 4th because there is no way to compare him to the other 3 who are inactive. We only know that Arie Hon (the 5th ranker) said Urek was much better than him.
"I don't know how many years on this Earth I got left. I'm gonna get real weird with it."
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2539 Posts
March 15 2017 23:52 GMT
#3217
Lol all of these random irregulars keep screwing with Jahad. First some dude destroys his temple, then another dude wrecks his castle, now Baam is trying to kill him. Give the guy a break, sheesh.
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-16 00:55:48
March 16 2017 00:38 GMT
#3218
On March 16 2017 08:52 Hyperbola wrote:
Lol all of these random irregulars keep screwing with Jahad. First some dude destroys his temple, then another dude wrecks his castle, now Baam is trying to kill him. Give the guy a break, sheesh.


lol right? but that's why I find it so weird
they are clearly upset at him but they just go around killing his followers and not him?

though the biggest mystery in the whole series for me is still why did yuri know that baam had entered the tower

we haven't found out, right?

im re-reading the whole series
I think that someone tipped the princess off, they wanted her to go and give baam the black march. I think headon knew this was the plan, and designed the test so that he could test if baam could ignite the black march (use the keys)

tbh though if SIU plans these things that far ahead, he is a genius
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-16 09:38:57
March 16 2017 09:38 GMT
#3219
Yuri was also there when Phantaminum rekt the castle and was the only one left alive besides Zahard. There has to be something more about her.
Beany
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands396 Posts
March 16 2017 09:43 GMT
#3220
On March 16 2017 18:38 Zane wrote:
Yuri was also there when Phantaminum rekt the castle and was the only one left alive besides Zahard. There has to be something more about her.

Where did you read that?
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