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SPOILER WARNING If you only watch the show, this thread will spoil you of future events in HBO's Game of Thrones. Thread contains discussion of all books of the series A Song of Ice and Fire
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Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
July 15 2014 07:10 GMT
#11201
On July 15 2014 09:12 skindzer wrote:
There are some numbers missing, the dragons, the direwolfs, vargo hoat (next to the hound) and there appears to be someone inside the dragons mouth beside tyrion.

ok
http://imgur.com/xAHHTy8
76. Vargo Hoat
77. Ghost
78. Shaggydog
79. Summer
80. Greywind and Nymeria (sorry, double numbered)
81. Rhaegal
82. Viserion
83. Drogon
84. Balerion
85. Rhaenyra being devoured by Sunfyre?? Shae in the Red Keep cellar??
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-15 08:10:21
July 15 2014 08:10 GMT
#11202
Cool, a puzzle, I agree with everything

I think nr. 15 is is not a Greyjoy, since the character is clearly behind the waves, not in them. Also he is kind of purple, following the line of Rhaegar, Aerys. So since he is joined to them, I would guess Jon Connington. Connington was also the hand of the Mad King of course.
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
July 15 2014 09:18 GMT
#11203
You need to label the derpy pig that killed Robert, too.
Ender985
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain910 Posts
July 15 2014 13:06 GMT
#11204
On July 15 2014 16:10 Geo.Rion wrote:76. Vargo Hoat


I think 76 is not a character, just the combination of the Hound's leg and a head on a pike that is part of Ilyn Payne's character.
Member of the Pirate Party - direct democracy, institutional transparency, and freedom of information
Koerage
Profile Joined April 2012
Netherlands1220 Posts
July 15 2014 14:05 GMT
#11205
On July 15 2014 16:10 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2014 09:12 skindzer wrote:
There are some numbers missing, the dragons, the direwolfs, vargo hoat (next to the hound) and there appears to be someone inside the dragons mouth beside tyrion.

ok
http://imgur.com/xAHHTy8
76. Vargo Hoat
77. Ghost
78. Shaggydog
79. Summer
80. Greywind and Nymeria (sorry, double numbered)
81. Rhaegal
82. Viserion
83. Drogon
84. Balerion
85. Rhaenyra being devoured by Sunfyre?? Shae in the Red Keep cellar??


where is 85 actually, i dont see it
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-15 14:06:37
July 15 2014 14:05 GMT
#11206
^ What Ender said lol. There's also a mouthless dude with a smokey weapon at top left.

85 is close to Tyrion and Oberyn.
Revolutionist fan
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
July 15 2014 17:21 GMT
#11207
On July 15 2014 22:06 Ender985 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2014 16:10 Geo.Rion wrote:76. Vargo Hoat


I think 76 is not a character, just the combination of the Hound's leg and a head on a pike that is part of Ilyn Payne's character.

yes, i didnt think he s a character either, but someone here said he's Vargo Hoat, which kinda makes sense, since we only see a torso and a head, and Vargo was tortured to death that way, so i labeled him as such.
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
July 15 2014 17:25 GMT
#11208
They should make an Anime series, now that i look at the picture.
Would own the HBO one so hard if done well imo.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
July 15 2014 17:29 GMT
#11209
On July 16 2014 02:21 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2014 22:06 Ender985 wrote:
On July 15 2014 16:10 Geo.Rion wrote:76. Vargo Hoat


I think 76 is not a character, just the combination of the Hound's leg and a head on a pike that is part of Ilyn Payne's character.

yes, i didnt think he s a character either, but someone here said he's Vargo Hoat, which kinda makes sense, since we only see a torso and a head, and Vargo was tortured to death that way, so i labeled him as such.

It kinda looks like a torso with a head, but it looks perfectly like Hound's leg armor and two heads on sticks.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18846 Posts
July 15 2014 17:52 GMT
#11210
On July 16 2014 02:25 The_Red_Viper wrote:
They should make an Anime series, now that i look at the picture.
Would own the HBO one so hard if done well imo.

Absolutely not.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1557 Posts
July 15 2014 18:24 GMT
#11211
They could make one with Dunk & Egg, see how it goes from there. That series is way more straightforward, and no need to find a whole set of actors for only a few hours per book.

ps. I like to think that 32 is the Fookin Legend of Flea Bottom. Such an important character can't be ignored!
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
July 15 2014 19:00 GMT
#11212
On July 16 2014 02:52 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2014 02:25 The_Red_Viper wrote:
They should make an Anime series, now that i look at the picture.
Would own the HBO one so hard if done well imo.

Absolutely not.

Absolutely yes.
Wow i am just as good as you at arguing!
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
July 15 2014 19:05 GMT
#11213
On July 16 2014 04:00 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2014 02:52 farvacola wrote:
On July 16 2014 02:25 The_Red_Viper wrote:
They should make an Anime series, now that i look at the picture.
Would own the HBO one so hard if done well imo.

Absolutely not.

Absolutely yes.
Wow i am just as good as you at arguing!

Are not!

Seriously, though. The whole "if done well" part is the problem here, and while the problems would be quite different than a life action series, there sure as hell would be a gazillion of problems for the show all the same. And compromises would have to be made. And, once again, fans would be mad about them.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-15 19:09:00
July 15 2014 19:08 GMT
#11214
On July 16 2014 04:00 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2014 02:52 farvacola wrote:
On July 16 2014 02:25 The_Red_Viper wrote:
They should make an Anime series, now that i look at the picture.
Would own the HBO one so hard if done well imo.

Absolutely not.

Absolutely yes.
Wow i am just as good as you at arguing!

Well obviously a comic/manga could be 95-100% true to the books, and only add the illustration, so if you consider that to be prefrable then absolutely yes.

If you look at the TV series as an adaptation on a different medium, which by default has to change at least somewhat the source material and make compromises.. well then, why would we even compare it to a manga
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
July 15 2014 19:13 GMT
#11215
On July 16 2014 04:00 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2014 02:52 farvacola wrote:
On July 16 2014 02:25 The_Red_Viper wrote:
They should make an Anime series, now that i look at the picture.
Would own the HBO one so hard if done well imo.

Absolutely not.

Absolutely yes.
Wow i am just as good as you at arguing!

I would watch the shit out of an animated series of asoif.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-15 19:16:41
July 15 2014 19:15 GMT
#11216
On July 16 2014 04:05 Conti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2014 04:00 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On July 16 2014 02:52 farvacola wrote:
On July 16 2014 02:25 The_Red_Viper wrote:
They should make an Anime series, now that i look at the picture.
Would own the HBO one so hard if done well imo.

Absolutely not.

Absolutely yes.
Wow i am just as good as you at arguing!

Are not!

Seriously, though. The whole "if done well" part is the problem here, and while the problems would be quite different than a life action series, there sure as hell would be a gazillion of problems for the show all the same. And compromises would have to be made. And, once again, fans would be mad about them.

Well sure, but they could make it a lot more like the books. You don't have to pay actors, so your cast can be as big as you want it to be. There is no real budget limitation that causes less cgi or something like that.
I actually don't think that there is one thing which would be more complicated for this medium.
Sure, i can understand when you prefer real actors, but if you are open for animes/comics/graphic novels, i think you can agree that it could be "easily" more true to the source material.

On July 16 2014 04:08 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2014 04:00 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On July 16 2014 02:52 farvacola wrote:
On July 16 2014 02:25 The_Red_Viper wrote:
They should make an Anime series, now that i look at the picture.
Would own the HBO one so hard if done well imo.

Absolutely not.

Absolutely yes.
Wow i am just as good as you at arguing!

Well obviously a comic/manga could be 95-100% true to the books, and only add the illustration, so if you consider that to be prefrable then absolutely yes.

If you look at the TV series as an adaptation on a different medium, which by default has to change at least somewhat the source material and make compromises.. well then, why would we even compare it to a manga

Well i saw the picture and thought about it for a second. That is pretty much the only reason i bring this up right now.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
July 15 2014 19:20 GMT
#11217
On July 16 2014 04:15 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2014 04:05 Conti wrote:
On July 16 2014 04:00 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On July 16 2014 02:52 farvacola wrote:
On July 16 2014 02:25 The_Red_Viper wrote:
They should make an Anime series, now that i look at the picture.
Would own the HBO one so hard if done well imo.

Absolutely not.

Absolutely yes.
Wow i am just as good as you at arguing!

Are not!

Seriously, though. The whole "if done well" part is the problem here, and while the problems would be quite different than a life action series, there sure as hell would be a gazillion of problems for the show all the same. And compromises would have to be made. And, once again, fans would be mad about them.

Well sure, but they could make it a lot more like the books. You don't have to pay actors, so your cast can be as big as you want it to be. There is no real budget limitation that causes less cgi or something like that.
I actually don't think that there is one thing which would be more complicated for this medium.
Sure, i can understand when you prefer real actors, but if you are open for animes/comics/graphic novels, i think you can agree that it could be "easily" more true to the source material.

I agree that it would be easier on many fronts, definitely. But, well, you still have to pay voice actors, so no, you can't have a cast as big as you like. Unless you want your minor characters to sound different from season to season. Or different characters to sound the same. Which surely would be one of the gripes die-hard fans would have right away.

And many of the problems of the live action show are the same: You have only so many hours for the show. You have a target audience that needs to be happy. And, frankly, you don't have good acting. Animated shows are not very well animated, usually. Every scene we know and cherish from the live action show would be "missing" from the animated show. Sure, it would be there. But it would be flat and not very exciting. Every medium has its advantages and disadvantages.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
July 15 2014 19:33 GMT
#11218
On July 16 2014 04:20 Conti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2014 04:15 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On July 16 2014 04:05 Conti wrote:
On July 16 2014 04:00 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On July 16 2014 02:52 farvacola wrote:
On July 16 2014 02:25 The_Red_Viper wrote:
They should make an Anime series, now that i look at the picture.
Would own the HBO one so hard if done well imo.

Absolutely not.

Absolutely yes.
Wow i am just as good as you at arguing!

Are not!

Seriously, though. The whole "if done well" part is the problem here, and while the problems would be quite different than a life action series, there sure as hell would be a gazillion of problems for the show all the same. And compromises would have to be made. And, once again, fans would be mad about them.

Well sure, but they could make it a lot more like the books. You don't have to pay actors, so your cast can be as big as you want it to be. There is no real budget limitation that causes less cgi or something like that.
I actually don't think that there is one thing which would be more complicated for this medium.
Sure, i can understand when you prefer real actors, but if you are open for animes/comics/graphic novels, i think you can agree that it could be "easily" more true to the source material.

I agree that it would be easier on many fronts, definitely. But, well, you still have to pay voice actors, so no, you can't have a cast as big as you like. Unless you want your minor characters to sound different from season to season. Or different characters to sound the same. Which surely would be one of the gripes die-hard fans would have right away.

And many of the problems of the live action show are the same: You have only so many hours for the show. You have a target audience that needs to be happy. And, frankly, you don't have good acting. Animated shows are not very well animated, usually. Every scene we know and cherish from the live action show would be "missing" from the animated show. Sure, it would be there. But it would be flat and not very exciting. Every medium has its advantages and disadvantages.

Voice actors aren't really a problem i would think. Sure, you have to pay them too, but i would assume that it is almost no factor compared to actors.
Frankly, i don't know exactly how much hours you could produce in one year, but i think it is fair to say that you could do more than the HBO series. Maybe i am wrong on that part though.
The acting part is the one i would agree with though, a real actor is most of the time far superior to the animation and voice actor. That may be a big enough reason to not prefer it, would have to see it first though :D
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Kazeyonoma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2912 Posts
July 15 2014 20:39 GMT
#11219
omg thank you geo.rion. amazing.
I now have autographs of both BoxeR and NaDa. I can die happy. Lim Yo Hwan and Lee Yun Yeol FIGHTING forever!
Dunmer
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom568 Posts
July 15 2014 21:26 GMT
#11220
So the guy that we wondering who he was in that image is probably Dakrkstar? His position facing darkstar and the way the hold their swords is my tell plus his general appearance being dark. The one above the mad king and to the left to aurther Dayne
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