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SPOILER WARNING If you only watch the show, this thread will spoil you of future events in HBO's Game of Thrones. Thread contains discussion of all books of the series A Song of Ice and Fire
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Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
June 05 2014 09:15 GMT
#10301
It might be wishful thinking to have Howland Reed as POV. I think he will show up and explain what happened.

Either that, or Bran will somehow see the events at the ToJ... But that would be lame. I would prefer if we actually got to see Howland.
I like words.
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12389 Posts
June 05 2014 09:33 GMT
#10302
We don't need a PoV, we can just have him tell someone.

If he does I hope he doesn't tell the most obvious story, though. I don't like having a reveal 6 books later that is basically what most people already deduced in the first book.
No will to live, no wish to die
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-05 09:44:56
June 05 2014 09:43 GMT
#10303
I dont think sending Jaime to Dorne makes sense, throwing him in extremely hostile environment wont help much in his redemption arc of doing 'the right thing', quite the opposite in fact if he is part of any scheme that involves getting his daughter back in KL. But who knows, maybe they will make it work besides having him in Dorne raises the stakes a lot and audience will care that much more about whats happening there.
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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18214 Posts
June 05 2014 11:56 GMT
#10304
On June 05 2014 18:43 disciple wrote:
I dont think sending Jaime to Dorne makes sense, throwing him in extremely hostile environment wont help much in his redemption arc of doing 'the right thing', quite the opposite in fact if he is part of any scheme that involves getting his daughter back in KL. But who knows, maybe they will make it work besides having him in Dorne raises the stakes a lot and audience will care that much more about whats happening there.


More problematic is: what the hell iwould uncat be doing in Dorne?
way2mash4u
Profile Joined January 2013
Germany183 Posts
June 05 2014 12:02 GMT
#10305
Getting a tan maybe?
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15361 Posts
June 05 2014 12:11 GMT
#10306
IF Jaime really goes to Dorne (only a suspicion at this point) he has plenty of time over two seasons to come back and mop up the Riverlands. The trip to Dorne doesn't have to last 10 episodes.
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
June 05 2014 12:18 GMT
#10307
So, will we get Lady Stoneheart in this season? I hope she shows up in ep10.
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
June 05 2014 12:26 GMT
#10308
On June 05 2014 17:53 Plexa wrote:
I should just ban urboss from making polls fullstop D:

Yes please. x.x
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
June 05 2014 12:34 GMT
#10309
On June 05 2014 21:18 -Archangel- wrote:
So, will we get Lady Stoneheart in this season? I hope she shows up in ep10.

yes
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15361 Posts
June 05 2014 12:35 GMT
#10310
Maybe even on Sunday. There is a preview floating out there somewhere that mentions the Brotherhood meeting someone "thought dead" or something like that.
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c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
June 05 2014 12:35 GMT
#10311
On June 05 2014 21:11 zatic wrote:
IF Jaime really goes to Dorne (only a suspicion at this point) he has plenty of time over two seasons to come back and mop up the Riverlands. The trip to Dorne doesn't have to last 10 episodes.

What happened in the book? They were delaying Balon Swann from delivering the Mountain's skull because Cersei's daughter's face was all cut-up. Did he event get to see Myrcella?
Ender985
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain910 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-05 12:40:55
June 05 2014 12:40 GMT
#10312
On June 05 2014 18:43 disciple wrote:
I dont think sending Jaime to Dorne makes sense, throwing him in extremely hostile environment wont help much in his redemption arc of doing 'the right thing', quite the opposite in fact if he is part of any scheme that involves getting his daughter back in KL. But who knows, maybe they will make it work besides having him in Dorne raises the stakes a lot and audience will care that much more about whats happening there.


Not much really happens in the Dorne subplot. Doran doesn't lift a finger, except to stop Arianne to do the only remotely impactful thing that could have been done. In that sense, I think throwing Jaime in the mix might spice up things a bit and make it somewhat more interesting. I really hope though that this time the added subplot does not end with Jaime running away from the dogs with the benny hill music in the background.

Also, are you guys not worried that we're already catching up with TWoW material? The Sansa transformation we saw last episode has not yet fully happened in the books, and the overall plot in the Vale has already catched up. Do you think they will just resort to filling it up with random inconsequential subplots of Robin wandering around the Vale, or will they continue to move the story, since the producers know what should happen next? In that case, I'm not sure I will continue watching the series since I'd like to read it first rather than have it spoiled by the show...
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zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15361 Posts
June 05 2014 12:42 GMT
#10313
Quick mod help please since I don't have access to the show: Is it ever mentioned in the show that Barristan is sent by Illyrio? I remember he simply says he was searching for Dany, nothing about Illyrio.

Episode 3x01.
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Zozo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Brazil2579 Posts
June 05 2014 13:03 GMT
#10314


not on that scene, maybe he says later?
EGM guides me
Dunmer
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom568 Posts
June 05 2014 13:06 GMT
#10315
No it was off his own accord that he came to dany and found her. I wish we had Strong belwas in the show too on a semi related note
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Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
June 05 2014 13:38 GMT
#10316
Did Illyrio appear at all so far?
11 years and counting- TL #680
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
June 05 2014 13:43 GMT
#10317
On June 05 2014 22:38 Monsen wrote:
Did Illyrio appear at all so far?

Yes. He brokered Dany's deal in season 1. They also revealed that it was him in KL making plans with Varys.
Dunmer
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom568 Posts
June 05 2014 13:44 GMT
#10318
Also gave Dany her dragon eggs and the wedding he hosted
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chillpenguin
Profile Joined March 2011
United States90 Posts
June 05 2014 13:54 GMT
#10319
On June 05 2014 21:42 zatic wrote:
Quick mod help please since I don't have access to the show: Is it ever mentioned in the show that Barristan is sent by Illyrio? I remember he simply says he was searching for Dany, nothing about Illyrio.

Episode 3x01.


I don't believe he ever mentions Illyrio in the show.
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
June 05 2014 14:05 GMT
#10320
On June 05 2014 18:33 Nebuchad wrote:
We don't need a PoV, we can just have him tell someone.

If he does I hope he doesn't tell the most obvious story, though. I don't like having a reveal 6 books later that is basically what most people already deduced in the first book.



Did "most people" really deduce that in the first book though, or did most people hear about the theory online and then agree that it's a good one? I certainly didn't pick up on it my first read thru. It's a common theory floated around in just about every book discussion online, but I'd be curious to know how many people figured it out without ever having heard about it from someone else.
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