EPT[TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion - Page 472
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scudst0rm
Canada1149 Posts
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karazax
United States3737 Posts
On May 05 2014 13:12 c0ldfusion wrote: Crazy episode. Love the changes with Lysa knowing who Sansa is. It made so little sense in the book. Lysa knew who Sansa was in the books too. Sansa looks like a young Cat which is part of the reason Lysa was jealous of her. | ||
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Leporello
United States2845 Posts
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Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
Isn't that black dude, the iron bank agent supposed to meet the lot in the Wall much much later in the story? | ||
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PureLuckz
United States137 Posts
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WiseBagus
Canada452 Posts
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
Next week's ep will be epic | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
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acker
United States2958 Posts
On May 05 2014 15:06 GumBa wrote: If ASOIAF is partly based on history who is Dany based on or is she purely GRRM? Because damn I hate that self reightous bitch. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://37.media.tumblr.com/08f31e29f76e3fd543234385860a6e01/tumblr_n4taz0HoSz1qdg36lo1_500.jpg) | ||
zatic
Zurich15361 Posts
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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
Best thing to spawn from this episode thus far. Everyone finally realizes the metaphor for Dany and Slaver's Bay. They can hate on her just like I do. :D | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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Vindicare605
United States16118 Posts
On May 05 2014 15:12 Steveling wrote: I like danny, she's one of very few characters that push for their ideals without paying the price for it so far, like poor Ned. Thing is, the only reason she HASN'T paid for her ideals yet is because she's fucking lucky. She hasn't gotten as far as she has on her brains, the only really intelligent thing she did was conning the Unsullied army into her pocket. She's surrounded by far more capable people than she who support her 100% because of what she represents not because of who she is, (except Jorah who is just pussy whipped, can't really blame him for that.) Dany has gotten all of the luck that the other characters that people actually like in the series didn't get. That I think is why so many resent her. | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On May 05 2014 16:29 Vindicare605 wrote: Thing is, the only reason she HASN'T paid for her ideals yet is because she's fucking lucky. She hasn't gotten as far as she has on her brains, the only really intelligent thing she did was conning the Unsullied army into her pocket. She's surrounded by far more capable people than she who support her 100% because of what she represents not because of who she is, (except Jorah who is just pussy whipped, can't really blame him for that.) Dany has gotten all of the luck that the other characters that people actually like in the series didn't get. That I think is why so many resent her. Personally, I thought the dislike stemmed more from "ohhh daaarrioooo" | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16118 Posts
On May 05 2014 15:40 Lord Tolkien wrote: Best thing to spawn from this episode thus far. Everyone finally realizes the metaphor for Dany and Slaver's Bay. They can hate on her just like I do. :D Pshhh like I needed a photoshopped picture to make me hate Dany. | ||
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Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
On May 05 2014 16:29 Vindicare605 wrote: Thing is, the only reason she HASN'T paid for her ideals yet is because she's fucking lucky. She hasn't gotten as far as she has on her brains, the only really intelligent thing she did was conning the Unsullied army into her pocket. She's surrounded by far more capable people than she who support her 100% because of what she represents not because of who she is, (except Jorah who is just pussy whipped, can't really blame him for that.) Dany has gotten all of the luck that the other characters that people actually like in the series didn't get. That I think is why so many resent her. It's just her character being like that, she's not a good fighter leader or cunning or smart, she's just charismatic. And I like her because all characters in this series are all grey and if not grey, downright evil(like ramsay). Characters like brienne, sam, dany are so scarcely present in this world. | ||
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Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
In the show however, I can't help but find Dany absolutely obnoxious. Her line "I will do what queens do. I will rule" is delivered with such haughtiness... It made me sick. I'm sure it's voluntary, Dany has had this smugness to her for a while in the show now, but it just irks me to no end. Most of what she's accomplished comes from the support she has, and from being a Targaryen, which is what allowed her to hatch the three dragons. So yeah, when it comes down to it, book or show, she has luck to thank for her success. That's why I'm sure her death will be quite horrible, this is GRRM we're talking about. The rest of the episode was cool. It did feel fast. I was very confused by the opening scene, and the dialogue between Cersei and Margaery. Cersei's face at the end pretty much tells us she means none of what she's said, and that she wishes she could strangle her right there and then, so that was okay. Jon's fight was good. The actor who played Karl was great, and I liked the fact that Jon wasn't able to defeat him. Plus one of Craster's wives stabbing him is just total karma. I was actually surprised by the sword coming through his mouth, I was expecting it through his heart or something. Quite brutal. Bran warging Hodor to kill a man was a turning point. In the books we get several instances of Bran warging too much, and enjoying it too much, especially eating flesh while in his direwolf. I hope that bit will come back in the next episode somehow. On a side note, a bit disappointed by Locke's death. He was a cool character, and the actor was great. I was expecting more of him, but I'm pretty sure that was the writers' plan all along. They made him look like he was going to play a great part, then boom. How very GRRM of them. edit: Also, the actor playing Lysa is nothing short of genius. She portrays her so well. You can just taste the madness. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16118 Posts
On May 05 2014 16:40 Steveling wrote: It's just her character being like that, she's not a good fighter leader or cunning or smart, she's just fucking hot. And I like her because all characters in this series are all grey and if not grey, downright evil(like ramsay). Characters like brienne, sam, dany are so scarcely present in this world. Fixed that for you. Charisma she might have, but if she wasn't so awe strikingly beautiful according to Martin's description or just as importantly a TARGARYEN it wouldn't mean shit. Nothing that Dany has she earned, it's all been given to her. She's just lucky. | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On May 05 2014 16:48 Vindicare605 wrote: Fixed that for you. Charisma she might have, but if she wasn't so awe strikingly beautiful according to Martin's description or just as importantly a TARGARYEN it wouldn't mean shit. Nothing that Dany has she earned, it's all been given to her. She's just lucky. Not true. She was sold to be a wife to a Khal and it would have stayed like that if SHE didn't change her position there. Then it was SHE who managed to unlock the power that gave birth to dragons. Her brother had same power, but he could not do it. After that things do get lucky for her, but she still makes these decisions like cheating the Unsulied merchant and taking the city as the result, turning the Second Sons and the other company to her side and so on. | ||
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