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SPOILER WARNING If you only watch the show, this thread will spoil you of future events in HBO's Game of Thrones. Thread contains discussion of all books of the series A Song of Ice and Fire
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AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
January 13 2014 07:23 GMT
#8461
wow Shouldn't have watched that now I cannot wait for another 3 months ~~
Zinnwaldite
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1567 Posts
January 13 2014 07:56 GMT
#8462
Sheeeit.. + Show Spoiler +


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We promise with a view to hope, but the reason to "accomplish" what we promised would be fear.
0x64
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Finland4602 Posts
January 13 2014 08:34 GMT
#8463
On January 13 2014 15:55 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
It's probably just a model of KL that one of the princes are playing with.


Dump of assembler code from 0xffffffec to 0x64: End of assembler dump.
LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
January 13 2014 08:50 GMT
#8464
On January 13 2014 15:55 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
It's probably just a model of KL that one of the princes are playing with.

Would be a cool way to get exposition on Aegon's Conquest. Tommen is playing with toy dragons while coping with the fact that he will be king, then Jaime comes in with some 1-on-1 time to explain why the Seven Kingdoms are united (basically telling him he needs to be strong and powerful ruler to keep the peace).

The story of Aegon's conquest and the symbolism of the Iron Throne is almost literally the reason why Westeros is (usually) ruled by The Iron Throne; I feel like the show needs to emphasize that.
MapleLeafSirup
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany950 Posts
January 13 2014 09:40 GMT
#8465
On November 30 2013 19:37 GhoSt[shield] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2013 02:14 hooahah wrote:
On September 15 2013 01:36 farvacola wrote:
Am I forgetting anything or am I right to think that we haven't even seen Howland in the books? I seriously hope he becomes more prominent, as he's always sounded like one of the most badass dudes in all of Westeros.


he hasn't appeared yet. I really hoped that he would appear (either at the wall or that Bran would go to him), but alas


This question has been asked to death as Howland Reed is the only survivor of the trip to the Tower of Joy. His perspective would answer questions about Lyanna's death, Jon's true parentage (Eddard or Rhaegar's son) and how the fuck he helped Ned to kill Arthur Dayne.

GRRM has said specifically on his website that we will never get a Howland Reed chapter, and most likely he will never appear in the books as it doesnt look like Meera, Jojen, Bran or Hodor are going anywhere for a while in Bloodraven's cave.


Howland Reed MUST appear in some way. He is probaby the 2nd most badass dude in Westeros behind Bloodraven. The COTF shared their wisdom with the crannogmen and Howland Reed must have learned a lot more on the Isle of Faces. I think it is him who can make their castles move and apparently his magic can kill guys like Arthur Dayne.

I think he hasn't acted yet, because he thought Meera and Jojen were being held captive. Does he still think that? Otherwise, he would have made a move at least on Moat Cailin. And if not him, who else would solve the mystery what happened at the TOJ?
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
January 13 2014 12:10 GMT
#8466
On January 13 2014 14:32 itkovian wrote:
New trailer season 4. Fucking lol'd at the dragon flying over king's landing. Unless i'm mistaken and thats not KL, the show writers are just teasing the show watchers. Cause those dragons ain't coming for many seasons

From what I've heard, the dragons will grow to almost full size this season and already start to cause various problems that are described in the later books. Though of course they still won't be in King's Landing.
tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
January 13 2014 12:55 GMT
#8467
On January 13 2014 21:10 Conti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2014 14:32 itkovian wrote:
New trailer season 4. Fucking lol'd at the dragon flying over king's landing. Unless i'm mistaken and thats not KL, the show writers are just teasing the show watchers. Cause those dragons ain't coming for many seasons

From what I've heard, the dragons will grow to almost full size this season and already start to cause various problems that are described in the later books. Though of course they still won't be in King's Landing.

I saw Theon holding a white banner? I guess it's not that one Frey meeting Lady Stoneheart from the beginning of the trailer? I really wonder what they're going to do with Jaime and Cersei. It's too late for Jaime to meet Cersei and have sex with her over Joff's body.

I can't wait for Khalleesi to take Joel Mormont and avenge her Carl Drogo and teach SerC and the rest of the scum at the Black Water Landings what respect is especially Jeffrey!!! Except Terion lol i like him he's so funny!!!!!
scrub - inexperienced player with relatively little skill and excessive arrogance
ionlyplayPROtoss
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada573 Posts
January 13 2014 13:11 GMT
#8468
On January 13 2014 21:55 tshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2014 21:10 Conti wrote:
On January 13 2014 14:32 itkovian wrote:
New trailer season 4. Fucking lol'd at the dragon flying over king's landing. Unless i'm mistaken and thats not KL, the show writers are just teasing the show watchers. Cause those dragons ain't coming for many seasons

From what I've heard, the dragons will grow to almost full size this season and already start to cause various problems that are described in the later books. Though of course they still won't be in King's Landing.

I saw Theon holding a white banner? I guess it's not that one Frey meeting Lady Stoneheart from the beginning of the trailer? I really wonder what they're going to do with Jaime and Cersei. It's too late for Jaime to meet Cersei and have sex with her over Joff's body.

I can't wait for Khalleesi to take Joel Mormont and avenge her Carl Drogo and teach SerC and the rest of the scum at the Black Water Landings what respect is especially Jeffrey!!! Except Terion lol i like him he's so funny!!!!!


Haha, I have a bit of a feeling (and I'm pretty sure I can't be the only one) that I shouldn't be surprised if Dany never goes to Westeros.
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
January 13 2014 14:01 GMT
#8469
so much hype from that trailer

love that red viper scene
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-14 02:23:19
January 14 2014 02:18 GMT
#8470
On January 13 2014 22:11 ionlyplayPROtoss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2014 21:55 tshi wrote:
On January 13 2014 21:10 Conti wrote:
On January 13 2014 14:32 itkovian wrote:
New trailer season 4. Fucking lol'd at the dragon flying over king's landing. Unless i'm mistaken and thats not KL, the show writers are just teasing the show watchers. Cause those dragons ain't coming for many seasons

From what I've heard, the dragons will grow to almost full size this season and already start to cause various problems that are described in the later books. Though of course they still won't be in King's Landing.

I saw Theon holding a white banner? I guess it's not that one Frey meeting Lady Stoneheart from the beginning of the trailer? I really wonder what they're going to do with Jaime and Cersei. It's too late for Jaime to meet Cersei and have sex with her over Joff's body.

I can't wait for Khalleesi to take Joel Mormont and avenge her Carl Drogo and teach SerC and the rest of the scum at the Black Water Landings what respect is especially Jeffrey!!! Except Terion lol i like him he's so funny!!!!!


Haha, I have a bit of a feeling (and I'm pretty sure I can't be the only one) that I shouldn't be surprised if Dany never goes to Westeros.

Possibly since there's been possible indications that she's gone off the deep end near the end of ADWD ("a dragon plants no trees"), but it's likely she will in Book 6, if the Mereenese knot has been cut, if only to contest Aegon's claim.

I still hold that she's going to die by the end of the series because she's too cray-cray.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
TigerKarl
Profile Joined November 2010
1757 Posts
January 14 2014 02:39 GMT
#8471
Not that hyped honestly. Season 2 and 3 trailers were pumping me up because of fantastic music choices, this one's failed in that regard.
I'm not seeing the Red Viper as that charismatic yet, just from the looks of him.
I'm hoping for the best.
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-14 03:14:14
January 14 2014 03:13 GMT
#8472
oh man, season 4 will be the best season up to date in my opinion.
book 6 is going to be amazing too, double super fun time if they both release around same time...thought it might confuse the crap out of me. when i think about game of thrones, i mix the two up on what happened when (season 3 vs book 5)
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karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-12 13:46:46
January 15 2014 17:19 GMT
#8473
Lots of screen caps from the trailer here: http://www.westeros.org/GoT/Gallery/Category/C299/P40




GWdeathscythe
Profile Joined November 2012
Brazil1091 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-11 22:02:34
February 11 2014 22:01 GMT
#8474
On January 13 2014 21:10 Conti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2014 14:32 itkovian wrote:
New trailer season 4. Fucking lol'd at the dragon flying over king's landing. Unless i'm mistaken and thats not KL, the show writers are just teasing the show watchers. Cause those dragons ain't coming for many seasons

From what I've heard, the dragons will grow to almost full size this season and already start to cause various problems that are described in the later books. Though of course they still won't be in King's Landing.

A Quentyn Martell scene trying to tame them in the pits and being burned alive while the dragons scape would be crazy/scary/awesome/shocking.
JD is BONJWA!
Irrelevant Label
Profile Joined January 2012
United States596 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-13 06:59:28
February 12 2014 01:04 GMT
#8475
On February 12 2014 07:01 GWdeathscythe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2014 21:10 Conti wrote:
On January 13 2014 14:32 itkovian wrote:
New trailer season 4. Fucking lol'd at the dragon flying over king's landing. Unless i'm mistaken and thats not KL, the show writers are just teasing the show watchers. Cause those dragons ain't coming for many seasons

From what I've heard, the dragons will grow to almost full size this season and already start to cause various problems that are described in the later books. Though of course they still won't be in King's Landing.

A Quentyn Martell scene trying to tame them in the pits and being burned alive while the dragons scape would be crazy/scary/awesome/shocking.


A character the watchers do not even know yet, and who is not being hyped at all, would be a shocking death?

I bet they tweak the battle at the wall. Someone we care about more will take on the job of dying fighting Mag, and I bet that in the show version we'll end up knowing exactly who kills Ygritte. Bonus points for if (when) it is someone who is liked as an all around "good person".

Someone people are supposed to like killing another person we are supposed to like fits in well with both their insinuations that it might top the red wedding. It also goes well with that quote from Jorah about good and evil on both sides of every war that features prominently in the trailer.

Lets not forget Shae.

And my own oddball idea: What if they simplify things a bit by killing Jorah rather than banishing him?



I think the show might have introduced us to another of their possible improvements over the books (not to suggest these are common). Bronn as Jaime's sparring partner has potential.



And whoever was leaking months ago that the dragons were speed up in their growth for this season is evidently a good source. That Drogon terrorizing a shepherd is as big as the more generous estimates of his size at the end of Dance.
0x64
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Finland4602 Posts
February 12 2014 12:40 GMT
#8476
On February 12 2014 10:04 Irrelevant Label wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2014 07:01 GWdeathscythe wrote:
On January 13 2014 21:10 Conti wrote:
On January 13 2014 14:32 itkovian wrote:
New trailer season 4. Fucking lol'd at the dragon flying over king's landing. Unless i'm mistaken and thats not KL, the show writers are just teasing the show watchers. Cause those dragons ain't coming for many seasons

From what I've heard, the dragons will grow to almost full size this season and already start to cause various problems that are described in the later books. Though of course they still won't be in King's Landing.

A Quentyn Martell scene trying to tame them in the pits and being burned alive while the dragons scape would be crazy/scary/awesome/shocking.


A character the watchers do not even know yet, and who is not being hyped at all, would be a shocking death?

I bet they tweak the battle at the wall. Someone we care about more will take on the job of dying fighting Mag, and I bet that in the show version we'll end up knowing exactly who kills Ygritte. Bonus points for if (when) it is someone who is liked as am all around "good person".

Someone people are supposed to like killing another person we are supposed to like fits in well with both their insinuations that it might top the red wedding. It also goes well with that quote from Jorah about good and evil on both sides of every war that features prominently in the trailer.

Lets not forget Shae.

And my own oddball idea: What if they simplify things a bit by killing Jorah somehow rather than banishing him?



I think the show might have introduced us to another of their possible improvements over the books (not to suggest these are common). Bronn as Jaime's sparring partner has potential.



And whoever was leaking months ago that the dragons were speed up in their growth for this season is evidently a good source. That Drogon terrorizing a shepherd is as big as the more generous estimates of his size at the end of Dance.


You might want to edit your text into something readable :D I don't understand what you mean about Jorah.
How do you kill him, when we don't even know where his storyline goes.

Bronn as a sparring partner, why not, Wilko is dying so they need to either replace the actor or replace the characters role.

This create something quite meta. Now that the actor is dying, maybe Martin will give some of his future part in the book to some other character. Ilyn might be pretty much dead in the book because his actor dies... Very meta.
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Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
February 12 2014 12:47 GMT
#8477
On February 12 2014 10:04 Irrelevant Label wrote:
And whoever was leaking months ago that the dragons were speed up in their growth for this season is evidently a good source. That Drogon terrorizing a shepherd is as big as the more generous estimates of his size at the end of Dance.

The producers have mentioned months ago that the dragons were growing faster than in the books. They were already growing faster in the last season, anyhow.

It's awesome, but all these sped up storylines do make me wonder what the heck they're going to do for the next season.
DODswe4
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden2157 Posts
February 12 2014 14:03 GMT
#8478
On February 12 2014 21:47 Conti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2014 10:04 Irrelevant Label wrote:
And whoever was leaking months ago that the dragons were speed up in their growth for this season is evidently a good source. That Drogon terrorizing a shepherd is as big as the more generous estimates of his size at the end of Dance.

The producers have mentioned months ago that the dragons were growing faster than in the books. They were already growing faster in the last season, anyhow.

It's awesome, but all these sped up storylines do make me wonder what the heck they're going to do for the next season.

when the tv show catches up to the books, they will feel the pain of waiting several years for the next season to come
or they diverge the story lines completly, that would be rather intresting (dont think they will do it but it would be interesting)
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
February 12 2014 14:10 GMT
#8479
On February 12 2014 23:03 DODswe4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2014 21:47 Conti wrote:
On February 12 2014 10:04 Irrelevant Label wrote:
And whoever was leaking months ago that the dragons were speed up in their growth for this season is evidently a good source. That Drogon terrorizing a shepherd is as big as the more generous estimates of his size at the end of Dance.

The producers have mentioned months ago that the dragons were growing faster than in the books. They were already growing faster in the last season, anyhow.

It's awesome, but all these sped up storylines do make me wonder what the heck they're going to do for the next season.

when the tv show catches up to the books, they will feel the pain of waiting several years for the next season to come
or they diverge the story lines completly, that would be rather intresting (dont think they will do it but it would be interesting)

Actually, I think that's exactly what they're going to do. They already know how it all ends, and they do have very competent writers who would be able to fill the gaps.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
February 12 2014 23:35 GMT
#8480
On February 12 2014 23:10 Conti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2014 23:03 DODswe4 wrote:
On February 12 2014 21:47 Conti wrote:
On February 12 2014 10:04 Irrelevant Label wrote:
And whoever was leaking months ago that the dragons were speed up in their growth for this season is evidently a good source. That Drogon terrorizing a shepherd is as big as the more generous estimates of his size at the end of Dance.

The producers have mentioned months ago that the dragons were growing faster than in the books. They were already growing faster in the last season, anyhow.

It's awesome, but all these sped up storylines do make me wonder what the heck they're going to do for the next season.

when the tv show catches up to the books, they will feel the pain of waiting several years for the next season to come
or they diverge the story lines completly, that would be rather intresting (dont think they will do it but it would be interesting)

Actually, I think that's exactly what they're going to do. They already know how it all ends, and they do have very competent writers who would be able to fill the gaps.

They will have to change large parts of the book 4 and 5 story anyway, because this will be impossible to put in a TV series like that.
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