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radiatoren
Denmark1907 Posts
On September 02 2012 06:27 ahswtini wrote: Man that girl was hot. + Show Spoiler + She's dead by the end of the episode. But she's also the next companion! Well they've done it with River Song before so I guess it's not ridiculous She can call me Nina any time!  | ||
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Deathmanbob
United States2356 Posts
On September 02 2012 06:27 ahswtini wrote: Man that girl was hot. + Show Spoiler + She's dead by the end of the episode. But she's also the next companion! Well they've done it with River Song before so I guess it's not ridiculous question for you in spoilers + Show Spoiler + how do you know she is the next companion? what did i miss? | ||
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radiatoren
Denmark1907 Posts
On September 02 2012 18:11 Deathmanbob wrote: question for you in spoilers + Show Spoiler + how do you know she is the next companion? what did i miss? Don't think you need to spoiler this but keeping the tradition: + Show Spoiler + Press releases, beep (BBC) interviews and a plethora of rumour-sites/threads. The mate is from N Ireland, so I would assume he has access to those sources. Dr. Who is a big deal in the UK and we in the rest of the world will have to do with what we can scrape together. Look at the beep from time to time and you might find things like this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-17456505 | ||
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Linkirvana
Netherlands365 Posts
This kind of means that we already know where the Doctor's next companion will end up. It seems a bit odd though, she'd have to recognize the Doctor if she was from the future, but she didn't. So does that mean that amidst all of that explosion stuff she genius'd her way out of it? While at the same time un-assimilating herself? So she can end up being the Doctor's companion? The first episode was alright, I have my doubts about the upcoming ones though, we'll see! | ||
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Zanti
United Kingdom26 Posts
On September 02 2012 20:16 Linkirvana wrote: + Show Spoiler + This kind of means that we already know where the Doctor's next companion will end up. It seems a bit odd though, she'd have to recognize the Doctor if she was from the future, but she didn't. So does that mean that amidst all of that explosion stuff she genius'd her way out of it? While at the same time un-assimilating herself? So she can end up being the Doctor's companion? The first episode was alright, I have my doubts about the upcoming ones though, we'll see! + Show Spoiler + The thing that got me about this episode was that she was still shown as being human in what looks like a spherical type room. Whilst possible they did fully convert her to being a Dalek, perhaps they miniturised her (like the Doctor did in the previous series with the assassination bot) and stuck her inside the actual Dalek suit. This makes sense to some degree because when she's talking on voice communications to the Doctor she still sounds "human" and not Dalek-ified. | ||
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Chillax
England585 Posts
On September 02 2012 21:29 Zanti wrote: + Show Spoiler + The thing that got me about this episode was that she was still shown as being human in what looks like a spherical type room. Whilst possible they did fully convert her to being a Dalek, perhaps they miniturised her (like the Doctor did in the previous series with the assassination bot) and stuck her inside the actual Dalek suit. This makes sense to some degree because when she's talking on voice communications to the Doctor she still sounds "human" and not Dalek-ified. + Show Spoiler + It was heavily implied that she was delusional in her perceptions, she was after all locked up in the biggest cell in a Dalek Asylum. | ||
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Zanti
United Kingdom26 Posts
On September 02 2012 23:06 Chillax wrote: + Show Spoiler + It was heavily implied that she was delusional in her perceptions, she was after all locked up in the biggest cell in a Dalek Asylum. + Show Spoiler + It was indeed, but it's the only way I can really see the human voice coming through. If you remember wayyyy back into the Rose/Eccleston era when the Dalek opened up it sounded basically the same inside when it spoke as when it was speaking from inside the shell. If she was fully converted surely she'd sound similar to the Daleks? Future episode potential spoiler if you don't read BBC about companions: + Show Spoiler + That's really the only way I can see her becoming the next companion. It's possible he went back in her timeline and met her there and the nanobots erased her memory of the Doctor on the Asylum planet but at the same time I don't really think that'd be the case. Moffat tends to be a fan of re-using similar ideas from the past just in clever ways. I don't think it'll be possible to revert the conversion if she was fully converted, though of course this is all speculation and I'm probably incredibly wrong, but that's just how I see it happening :D Edits: Yay for spoiler syntaxes, hopefully didn't ruin anything D: | ||
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mahkan
United States153 Posts
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whatevername
471 Posts
I really hope its not Oswin or whatever, I didnt like her genius or her snarkyness. | ||
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leveller
Sweden1840 Posts
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radiatoren
Denmark1907 Posts
On September 03 2012 06:16 leveller wrote: Tennant and Echelston are awesome I dont like Matt Smith though cant wait to see him replaced and get a new doctor/companion (getting a bit sick of amy too). I am not really sure why people feel that way. To me Eccelston was very original in his way of playing the doctor and really developed the series. Everything went bad, from my view when Tennant took over. He overplayed it so much in the beginning and the combination of him and Billie did not seem to work that well. Don't get me wrong, I probably loved "The Girl In The Fireplace" and "Love & Monsters" as much as the next one, but I do not attribute it as much to the main actors on the show as much as the brilliant scripts/execution. The acting improved a lot with Freema as companion and "Gridlock" and "Blink" are brilliant pieces with Gridlock really showing Tennant as a brilliant piece in a "do androids dream of electric sheep?"-world (The book inspiring the film Blade Runner even though the book has a much more depressing and dystopian tone. For people knowing how dark the film is, it does say a lot). With Tate as companion the acting was a bit hit and miss. To me Matt Smith has moved the series a lot closer to how it was played by Tom Baker and I do like the olden days. The quality of some of the stories has decreased a little even though they are still above their competition. Generally I like the somewhat awkward madness portrayed by Matt Smith more than the rambling and emotional acting of Tennant. The doctor of the olden days is cynical about humans and feelings and Eccleston mostly followed through on that style. Tennant and Smith has had some of the "sexual tention" with the companions we see in almost all modern shows. Some of it is of course on the stories, but let us hope that the new companion gets to be a lesbian. That would be a huge step towards avoiding the cliche. | ||
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whatevername
471 Posts
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gumshoe
Canada3602 Posts
On September 03 2012 07:42 whatevername wrote: Tennant has definitely been the best actor of the reboot, best episode was probably midnight. I like that Matt smith really amped up on the alien nature of the doctor, but it also gets pretty tiring seeing a manic guy rush around every which way. Tennant had wonder for life, not necessarily a high. They're all good, definitely sad that Eccelston never got more time as the 9th doctor, my fondest hope is they do a time war movie showing how the 8th doctor died and all that. They both deserve more air time. Tennant is the best all around doctor, his timelord is dignified, often profoundly elated and uplifting or otherwise darkly contemplative and brooding. Matt smith's doctor though, simply nails the big moments. Speeches like "the one thing you never put in a trap" and "run" or jawdropping scenes like smith slamming the door in future amys face and putting her life in rory's hands(plus badass instances like siking the tardis on the dark planet and heartfelt moments such as showing a baby the stars) are far more engaging and/or awing then Tennant's greatest moments. Also Matt smith is much much funnier(he just seems to have a broader range of emotions as an actor). But Eccelston will always have the best line. | ||
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darksub
Argentina302 Posts
pd:+ Show Spoiler + watch the episode again, she calls him doctor, she knew him | ||
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VashTS
United States1675 Posts
What do you guys recommend? | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
On September 03 2012 12:43 VashTS wrote: So like, I want to get back into Doctor Who, but I'm wondering if I should start from the beginning (which is a long fucking time ago!) or somewhere in the middle. I got into it about 4 years ago on BBC (America), but due to life complications I was unable to stick with it and have not seen it for a while. What do you guys recommend? Start with the bbc reboot from the mid 2000's. Its 6 seasons to watch as opposed to trying to fit in all of the original work. If you have the time to watch from the original series and continue on then do so but with time as a limiting factor start with series 1 and watch the 6 seasons. | ||
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whatevername
471 Posts
On September 03 2012 12:12 darksub wrote: She was a Dalek, of course she knew him.first episode was cool, christmas hats are cool pd:+ Show Spoiler + watch the episode again, she calls him doctor, she knew him | ||
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Antihero
United States29 Posts
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Borfius
Belgium21 Posts
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urashimakt
United States1591 Posts
On September 03 2012 07:15 radiatoren wrote: I am not really sure why people feel that way. To me Eccelston was very original in his way of playing the doctor and really developed the series. Everything went bad, from my view when Tennant took over. He overplayed it so much in the beginning and the combination of him and Billie did not seem to work that well. Don't get me wrong, I probably loved "The Girl In The Fireplace" and "Love & Monsters" as much as the next one, but I do not attribute it as much to the main actors on the show as much as the brilliant scripts/execution. The acting improved a lot with Freema as companion and "Gridlock" and "Blink" are brilliant pieces with Gridlock really showing Tennant as a brilliant piece in a "do androids dream of electric sheep?"-world (The book inspiring the film Blade Runner even though the book has a much more depressing and dystopian tone. For people knowing how dark the film is, it does say a lot). With Tate as companion the acting was a bit hit and miss. To me Matt Smith has moved the series a lot closer to how it was played by Tom Baker and I do like the olden days. The quality of some of the stories has decreased a little even though they are still above their competition. Generally I like the somewhat awkward madness portrayed by Matt Smith more than the rambling and emotional acting of Tennant. The doctor of the olden days is cynical about humans and feelings and Eccleston mostly followed through on that style. Tennant and Smith has had some of the "sexual tention" with the companions we see in almost all modern shows. Some of it is of course on the stories, but let us hope that the new companion gets to be a lesbian. That would be a huge step towards avoiding the cliche. I agree here. Tennant has become something of a fan favorite for sticking with the show during its reboot, but I think he's actually been the least awesome (still pretty awesome) Doctor. Eccleston was great, I was disappointed when he quit to avoid being typecast. I feel Matt Smith has taken Tennant's Doctor and really ran with it, improving it. | ||
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