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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-25 13:41:26
August 25 2019 13:40 GMT
#2361
Dreamhack special final boss on chinese stream lol

edit: Champagne won again

one day an esports winner will have watched Formula1 and understand what to do
Neosteel Enthusiast
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
August 25 2019 13:40 GMT
#2362
YESSS CHAMPAGNE!!


No ceremony is complete without it
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
ChickenDieAlive
Profile Joined September 2015
699 Posts
August 25 2019 13:41 GMT
#2363
On August 25 2019 22:38 warrior4093 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 22:35 DucK- wrote:
Not sure why liquid kept first banning magnus. Feels like the lesser evil to play against.

bigger issue is re picking ta and tide over and over.


It was EG under the Liquid mask all along...
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
August 25 2019 13:42 GMT
#2364
so are they also gonna have champagne on the english late game?
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4396 Posts
August 25 2019 13:43 GMT
#2365
What the actual fuck is this lager in a kilkenny glass??? SACRILEGIOUS
Sucker for nostalgia
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
August 25 2019 13:43 GMT
#2366
On August 25 2019 22:38 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 22:34 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
The trick to win TI is to not be dominant so your strats don't get nerfed

What is kind of funny is that OG were playing this kind of deathball style even with iLTW.
Anyone that actually understands Dota, understands that OG uses more strategies than anyone.
LiangHao
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-25 13:46:25
August 25 2019 13:43 GMT
#2367
Lmao, i kind of feel sorry for staryi_bog now. Dude gave an interview explaining that running safelane wisp like that is subpar because it just means your timing is later and would be punished by a strong team.

Imagine reading it now.

On August 25 2019 22:43 Dracolich70 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 22:38 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 25 2019 22:34 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
The trick to win TI is to not be dominant so your strats don't get nerfed

What is kind of funny is that OG were playing this kind of deathball style even with iLTW.
Anyone that actually understands Dota, understands that OG uses more strategies than anyone.


They do, otherwise they would not beg for a comparison with Wings. It's also irrelevant to my point.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Tegenaria
Profile Joined November 2011
France379 Posts
August 25 2019 13:46 GMT
#2368
On another topic , i expect Holy Locket and Meteor Hammer to be reworked next patch.
Elurie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
4716 Posts
August 25 2019 13:46 GMT
#2369
On August 25 2019 22:40 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Dreamhack special final boss on chinese stream lol

edit: Champagne won again

one day an esports winner will have watched Formula1 and understand what to do


Or get them one of those bottles with EZ-caps lmao.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44238 Posts
August 25 2019 13:46 GMT
#2370


this is just impressive lol
this is a quote
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 25 2019 13:47 GMT
#2371
On August 25 2019 22:46 Tegenaria wrote:
On another topic , i expect Holy Locket and Meteor Hammer to be reworked next patch.

A low hanging fruit if i saw one.

I also expect a bunch of Aghs to get reworked, cough Tiny, cough Wisp.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
August 25 2019 13:53 GMT
#2372
kotl guy savaged by pyrion rofl
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
RubickPicker
Profile Joined October 2015
United States332 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-25 13:56:35
August 25 2019 13:55 GMT
#2373
OG has strategies, but this patch was short on tactics. I love watching Dota not for mechanical skill that I can’t see unless I watch player perspective. I come to it because I love the combos and hugely coordinated plays.

OG had some of that, but less of it overall. If you’re not an every day kind of player it can be hard to see what they’re doing from a tactical advantage. For example, fountain hooks were incredibly unbalanced but the coordination required was evident just looking at it. Many moment since of these games looked like a murderfest with the kind of hyperactive diving that new players have a bad habit of doing.

I like the OG guys, definitely admire what they pulled off, and don’t want to watch them play Dota again before patches. I hope that feels fair.
* N U K E D *
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44238 Posts
August 25 2019 13:55 GMT
#2374
the chinese interview is worth the watch
this is a quote
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
August 25 2019 13:59 GMT
#2375
On August 25 2019 22:43 Dracolich70 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 22:38 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 25 2019 22:34 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
The trick to win TI is to not be dominant so your strats don't get nerfed

What is kind of funny is that OG were playing this kind of deathball style even with iLTW.
Anyone that actually understands Dota, understands that OG uses more strategies than anyone.


Wings probably had the most strategies of any team, but 7.00 is a very different game at the strategic level because all of the talents add multiple timings.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
August 25 2019 13:59 GMT
#2376
Congratulations to OG! Massive props, and I guess I was wrong!
The Bomber boy
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
August 25 2019 14:01 GMT
#2377
On August 25 2019 22:43 lolfail9001 wrote:
Lmao, i kind of feel sorry for staryi_bog now. Dude gave an interview explaining that running safelane wisp like that is subpar because it just means your timing is later and would be punished by a strong team.

Imagine reading it now.

Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 22:43 Dracolich70 wrote:
On August 25 2019 22:38 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 25 2019 22:34 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
The trick to win TI is to not be dominant so your strats don't get nerfed

What is kind of funny is that OG were playing this kind of deathball style even with iLTW.
Anyone that actually understands Dota, understands that OG uses more strategies than anyone.


They do, otherwise they would not beg for a comparison with Wings. It's also irrelevant to my point.
Wings fell off because they couldn't reinvent themselves, and collapsed. Your point is limited by your understanding of strategies.
LiangHao
ChickenDieAlive
Profile Joined September 2015
699 Posts
August 25 2019 14:03 GMT
#2378
On August 25 2019 22:43 Dracolich70 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 22:38 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 25 2019 22:34 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
The trick to win TI is to not be dominant so your strats don't get nerfed

What is kind of funny is that OG were playing this kind of deathball style even with iLTW.
Anyone that actually understands Dota, understands that OG uses more strategies than anyone.


Yes, they can play many strategies. But if you believe their go-to isn't deathball this TI, you are delusional.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-25 14:12:01
August 25 2019 14:11 GMT
#2379
On August 25 2019 23:01 Dracolich70 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 22:43 lolfail9001 wrote:
Lmao, i kind of feel sorry for staryi_bog now. Dude gave an interview explaining that running safelane wisp like that is subpar because it just means your timing is later and would be punished by a strong team.

Imagine reading it now.

On August 25 2019 22:43 Dracolich70 wrote:
On August 25 2019 22:38 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 25 2019 22:34 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
The trick to win TI is to not be dominant so your strats don't get nerfed

What is kind of funny is that OG were playing this kind of deathball style even with iLTW.
Anyone that actually understands Dota, understands that OG uses more strategies than anyone.


They do, otherwise they would not beg for a comparison with Wings. It's also irrelevant to my point.
Wings fell off because they couldn't reinvent themselves, and collapsed. Your point is limited by your understanding of strategies.

Wings fell of mostly because of Ace and all the bullshit with chinese dota rather than actual dota.

OG never had problems with their org or their entire competitive scene.
this is a quote
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
August 25 2019 14:14 GMT
#2380
What is the definition of deathball in this discussion?

I don't think OG were purely reliant on a 5 v5 fight at all
Neosteel Enthusiast
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