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Snakesneaks
Profile Joined February 2013
Italy2652 Posts
August 25 2019 11:35 GMT
#1981
mindcontrol is mad after being trashed 2 games in a row
and liquid need to do something different aside of ta and tide
Otacon : Snake, Snake, Snaaaaakkkkeeeeeeeeeee..............
Elurie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
4716 Posts
August 25 2019 11:35 GMT
#1982
L-W-W..... exactly like last year's grand finals except OG was on the other side. Don't get too comfortable.
Skillver
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria1309 Posts
August 25 2019 11:35 GMT
#1983
Liquid has to ban Tiny imho
Snakesneaks
Profile Joined February 2013
Italy2652 Posts
August 25 2019 11:36 GMT
#1984
On August 25 2019 20:35 Tegenaria wrote:
I dont understand why it's so hard to counter OG draft.

Most of their game is just pure aggression
Why not try some pure defensive draft ? Just pick Oracle/Dazzle to save people & a carry with great teamfight like Void or Jugg.

Not your fucking TA...


i wish the solution is really that easy
Otacon : Snake, Snake, Snaaaaakkkkeeeeeeeeeee..............
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44305 Posts
August 25 2019 11:36 GMT
#1985
On August 25 2019 20:34 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 20:33 goody153 wrote:
On August 25 2019 20:30 Elurie wrote:
On August 25 2019 20:23 goody153 wrote:
I am more and more convinced that LGD should've faced OG. They looked better against OG than this shit

You think LGD would have survived the Ember+Monkey game? No way.

There is a chance as at least LGD has a clue how to fight OG in an aggressive stance.

This is similar to why i would've preferred DK or EG fighting Newbee than VG during TI4 finals because they at least would make the games look close. Just a difference of style and familiarity

Exact same reason Newbee ruined the TI7 finals when they killed LFY.

LFY i had so much hope about that team. Whatever this is the results we have. Liquid and OG earned it
this is a quote
vommy
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany532 Posts
August 25 2019 11:36 GMT
#1986
Damn just got home, how are the games until now?
Oh, I'm chasing this guy. [Dodd shoots at Leonard] No... he's chasing me.
crnm95
Profile Joined August 2019
37 Posts
August 25 2019 11:36 GMT
#1987
On August 25 2019 20:33 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 20:32 crnm95 wrote:
On August 25 2019 20:29 turpentine wrote:
On August 25 2019 20:28 crnm95 wrote:
On August 25 2019 20:26 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On August 25 2019 20:25 crnm95 wrote:
Watching OG, I always get a sense that they win not because they are great but because their opponents fail to bring their agame

Forcing opponents to be uncomfortable is the power of good players in every sport

I agree to a point. What I mean to say is that it seems like OG’s way of playing would lose to a team that didnt allow themselves to be bullied into not playing flawlessly


So basically OG beat teams that they're better than, and would lose to a team that was better than them

Not exactly. More like OG strategical approach to dota is one dimensional and unsound in that it relies on their opponents being sufficiently prone to make mistakes.

I'd say it's very fucking sound if it works well vs the best teams in the world.

Thats because you’re so unambitious as to settle for winning. If OG cared about greatness they wouldnt just be content with beating teams that are making mistakes, they would play in a way that would allow them to not instantly lose if a team that doesnt make mistakes comes along
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
August 25 2019 11:36 GMT
#1988
Feels like the only way to stop OG is putting Miracle in mid.
LiangHao
smr
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4808 Posts
August 25 2019 11:36 GMT
#1989
game 4: gh pudge wins against techies.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16849 Posts
August 25 2019 11:36 GMT
#1990
And OG at TI has the same intimidation factor as VP has throughout the season. It feels like every game they win from the other POV is just some clowny shit and a frustrating experience.

People just need to chill when playing vs them and stop their game. You just need to slap them down a notch.
The Bomber boy
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
August 25 2019 11:36 GMT
#1991
On August 25 2019 20:35 Snakesneaks wrote:
mindcontrol is mad after being trashed 2 games in a row
and liquid need to do something different aside of ta and tide

Matu is not here anymore, MC has been given the responsibility of the green hero and he can't handle it, his green hero pool is too small.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
sunrazgriz
Profile Joined April 2015
Vatican City State1573 Posts
August 25 2019 11:36 GMT
#1992
in arc warden liquid trust
6nnn
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 25 2019 11:37 GMT
#1993
On August 25 2019 20:36 crnm95 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 20:33 Ej_ wrote:
On August 25 2019 20:32 crnm95 wrote:
On August 25 2019 20:29 turpentine wrote:
On August 25 2019 20:28 crnm95 wrote:
On August 25 2019 20:26 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On August 25 2019 20:25 crnm95 wrote:
Watching OG, I always get a sense that they win not because they are great but because their opponents fail to bring their agame

Forcing opponents to be uncomfortable is the power of good players in every sport

I agree to a point. What I mean to say is that it seems like OG’s way of playing would lose to a team that didnt allow themselves to be bullied into not playing flawlessly


So basically OG beat teams that they're better than, and would lose to a team that was better than them

Not exactly. More like OG strategical approach to dota is one dimensional and unsound in that it relies on their opponents being sufficiently prone to make mistakes.

I'd say it's very fucking sound if it works well vs the best teams in the world.

Thats because you’re so unambitious as to settle for winning. If OG cared about greatness they wouldnt just be content with beating teams that are making mistakes, they would play in a way that would allow them to not instantly lose if a team that doesnt make mistakes comes along

This is Dota, a team that does not make mistakes does not exist.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
juuto
Profile Joined January 2014
809 Posts
August 25 2019 11:37 GMT
#1994
On August 25 2019 20:36 vommy wrote:
Damn just got home, how are the games until now?


Liquid won a game and got absolutely shit stomped 2 games in a row while stubbornly picking the same heroes every single game.

A very typical Liquid grand finals so far.
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
August 25 2019 11:37 GMT
#1995
On August 25 2019 20:26 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 20:25 crnm95 wrote:
Watching OG, I always get a sense that they win not because they are great but because their opponents fail to bring their agame

Forcing opponents to be uncomfortable is the power of good players in every sport

So much this. If it works, why change a winning concept.
EZ4ENCE
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44305 Posts
August 25 2019 11:37 GMT
#1996
On August 25 2019 20:36 vommy wrote:
Damn just got home, how are the games until now?

The losers finals is good but this grand finals is kinda eh. OG is kinda crushing really hard and probably gonna win this TI if TL doesn't figure out something next game
this is a quote
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
August 25 2019 11:37 GMT
#1997
Man we are in the worst timeline right now
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
sunrazgriz
Profile Joined April 2015
Vatican City State1573 Posts
August 25 2019 11:37 GMT
#1998
lets not forger GSW blew 3 - 1 lead
6nnn
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
August 25 2019 11:37 GMT
#1999
On August 25 2019 20:34 Sif_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 20:33 Taf the Ghost wrote:
As a reminder, LGD was up 2-1 last year. This isn't over. Plus, TL is going to shift things up.


Its different. How can liquid show up for game 4 after these 2 MAJOR STOMPS?


LGD stomped OG pretty hard in games 2 & 3 last year, but TL might have played too much in the Lower Bracket. They might just be tapped out of concepts.
Tegenaria
Profile Joined November 2011
France379 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-25 11:39:19
August 25 2019 11:38 GMT
#2000
On August 25 2019 20:36 Snakesneaks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 20:35 Tegenaria wrote:
I dont understand why it's so hard to counter OG draft.

Most of their game is just pure aggression
Why not try some pure defensive draft ? Just pick Oracle/Dazzle to save people & a carry with great teamfight like Void or Jugg.

Not your fucking TA...


i wish the solution is really that easy



I think it is. It's a strategy game and you know the strategy of your opponent.
You should be able to adapt if you are a pro player.

Here Kuro is playing standard game with Tide / Ta like against any other team, he doesn't adapt.
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