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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
August 09 2017 22:13 GMT
#901
On August 10 2017 07:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:
So will we see any of the so far ignored characters () still?
Bane, Spectre, Techies, Tiny and Wraith King. What makes these "bad" ?

Spectre and Bane are possible. Tiny is unlikely outside of a very niche pick with Io. Wraith King is just considered single target version of Sven right now.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
August 09 2017 22:13 GMT
#902
On August 10 2017 07:07 M.S.Bismarck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2017 07:03 TomatoBisque wrote:
On August 10 2017 07:01 Kipsate wrote:
Chappie is out of a job after this TI for sure

That would require Reso to stick with Empire when like every team in the west is gonna be trying to pick him up after TI

Guy is an absolute monster

Poll: What team should Resolution carry next?

Stay with Misery and company (7)
 
41%

other (4)
 
24%

Stick with Team Empire (2)
 
12%

Evil Geniuses (2)
 
12%

Navi (1)
 
6%

Team Secret (1)
 
6%

17 total votes

Your vote: What team should Resolution carry next?

(Vote): Stick with Team Empire
(Vote): Navi
(Vote): Team Secret
(Vote): Evil Geniuses
(Vote): Stay with Misery and company
(Vote): other



I don't really see him go to EG but I hope he finds a good team. He's really playing out of his mind right now
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
August 09 2017 22:13 GMT
#903
YES! MY MOST PLAYED HERO!!!
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-09 22:14:20
August 09 2017 22:13 GMT
#904
hoo hoo haa haa

peeped


<3

Reso is going to navi 100% mid way through the year they disband while he still gets a fat signing bonus
High Risk Low Reward
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
August 09 2017 22:13 GMT
#905
He should go to any team except for Na'vi
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
August 09 2017 22:14 GMT
#906
On August 10 2017 07:12 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2017 07:10 Orome wrote:
On August 10 2017 07:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:
So will we see any of the so far ignored characters () still?
Bane, Spectre, Techies, Tiny and Wraith King. What makes these "bad" ?


You can make pretty easy arguments against the last 4, but I'm really surprised we haven't seen a single bane. That just feels weird.

Can you elaborate? What are these easy arguments against these 4?

Techies isn't in Captain's Mode so he can't be picked

Spectre is a safelane hero who is very vulnerable in lane, while the general playstyle of most teams this tournament has been to leave the safelane relatively exposed

Tiny is just kind of... the hero needs to snowball so that he can kill heroes with his combo, and if he doesn't get that start he doesn't really do anything. The hero has just been sort of weak ever since the carry build with Io/Wisp fell out of favor

Wraith King is just outshone by CK this tournament imo
rip
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
August 09 2017 22:15 GMT
#907
Sniper feels incredibly bad against PL
Elurie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
4716 Posts
August 09 2017 22:15 GMT
#908
On August 10 2017 07:13 LemOn wrote:
YES! MY MOST PLAYED HERO!!!

Oh, you!
BigO
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden956 Posts
August 09 2017 22:16 GMT
#909
On August 10 2017 07:13 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2017 07:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:
So will we see any of the so far ignored characters () still?
Bane, Spectre, Techies, Tiny and Wraith King. What makes these "bad" ?

Spectre and Bane are possible. Tiny is unlikely outside of a very niche pick with Io. Wraith King is just considered single target version of Sven right now.


I guess you could pick WK vs a bear build Lone Druid since the crit works vs the bear, but it still feels kinda meh. Don't really see any of those heroes picked tbh.
BigO
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden956 Posts
August 09 2017 22:17 GMT
#910
On August 10 2017 07:15 babysimba wrote:
Sniper feels incredibly bad against PL


Get mjollnir and pew pew pew from 1000 range away.
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
August 09 2017 22:17 GMT
#911
tiny is dead because of rain drops
High Risk Low Reward
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 09 2017 22:18 GMT
#912
On August 10 2017 07:17 BigO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2017 07:15 babysimba wrote:
Sniper feels incredibly bad against PL


Get mjollnir and pew pew pew from 1000 range away.

1000 range is awfully close to phantom rush range. That means that in 1.5 seconds that 1000 range turns into 100.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
fixed_point
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany4891 Posts
August 09 2017 22:18 GMT
#913
boboka OP.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
August 09 2017 22:18 GMT
#914
boboka MK boysss
Neosteel Enthusiast
GOHF
Profile Joined December 2015
United States1864 Posts
August 09 2017 22:19 GMT
#915
On August 10 2017 07:14 TomatoBisque wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2017 07:12 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On August 10 2017 07:10 Orome wrote:
On August 10 2017 07:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:
So will we see any of the so far ignored characters () still?
Bane, Spectre, Techies, Tiny and Wraith King. What makes these "bad" ?


You can make pretty easy arguments against the last 4, but I'm really surprised we haven't seen a single bane. That just feels weird.

Can you elaborate? What are these easy arguments against these 4?

Techies isn't in Captain's Mode so he can't be picked

Spectre is a safelane hero who is very vulnerable in lane, while the general playstyle of most teams this tournament has been to leave the safelane relatively exposed

Tiny is just kind of... the hero needs to snowball so that he can kill heroes with his combo, and if he doesn't get that start he doesn't really do anything. The hero has just been sort of weak ever since the carry build with Io/Wisp fell out of favor

Wraith King is just outshone by CK this tournament imo

Additional note regarding Bane:
The important things Bane can do Shadow Shaman can also do. The only big reasons I can see why you would choose Bane over SS is the higher move speed and possible ways you can get value out of Enfeeble.
NO MORE CHEN NERFS!!!
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
August 09 2017 22:20 GMT
#916
On August 10 2017 07:15 Elurie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2017 07:13 LemOn wrote:
YES! MY MOST PLAYED HERO!!!

Oh, you!

this game's actually pretty annoying
when you face heroes like Blink LC, Blink Veno and lich magic burst
you want to go into the Tanky SnY build skipping meanstrom
Then catching up on AS with MoM

But vs PL he kinda needs the Mjolnir

hard item choices this game.

he needs to get ahead enough to get mjolnir AND tank items fast
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
August 09 2017 22:21 GMT
#917
On August 10 2017 07:19 M.S.Bismarck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2017 07:14 TomatoBisque wrote:
On August 10 2017 07:12 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On August 10 2017 07:10 Orome wrote:
On August 10 2017 07:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:
So will we see any of the so far ignored characters () still?
Bane, Spectre, Techies, Tiny and Wraith King. What makes these "bad" ?


You can make pretty easy arguments against the last 4, but I'm really surprised we haven't seen a single bane. That just feels weird.

Can you elaborate? What are these easy arguments against these 4?

Techies isn't in Captain's Mode so he can't be picked

Spectre is a safelane hero who is very vulnerable in lane, while the general playstyle of most teams this tournament has been to leave the safelane relatively exposed

Tiny is just kind of... the hero needs to snowball so that he can kill heroes with his combo, and if he doesn't get that start he doesn't really do anything. The hero has just been sort of weak ever since the carry build with Io/Wisp fell out of favor

Wraith King is just outshone by CK this tournament imo

Additional note regarding Bane:
The important things Bane can do Shadow Shaman can also do. The only big reasons I can see why you would choose Bane over SS is the higher move speed and possible ways you can get value out of Enfeeble.


He's WAY tankier and stronger in lane
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
August 09 2017 22:21 GMT
#918
If teams pick bane it would be a 5 not 4, and it will be used as a lane bully.
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
August 09 2017 22:21 GMT
#919
omg boboka what was that
:)
BigO
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden956 Posts
August 09 2017 22:21 GMT
#920
On August 10 2017 07:18 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2017 07:17 BigO wrote:
On August 10 2017 07:15 babysimba wrote:
Sniper feels incredibly bad against PL


Get mjollnir and pew pew pew from 1000 range away.

1000 range is awfully close to phantom rush range. That means that in 1.5 seconds that 1000 range turns into 100.


Hopefully there are some heroes from Newbee to stop him then. But even so, Sniper can still deal a decent chunck of dmg back to Pl with just mjollnir procs.
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