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ASoo
Profile Joined November 2010
2864 Posts
August 10 2016 22:26 GMT
#1521
On August 11 2016 07:25 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 07:23 IntoTheheart wrote:
On August 11 2016 07:23 lolfail9001 wrote:
Really though, remember i said Liquid probably have easiest LB they could ask for?

I stand by my words.

They get Fnatic next.

that's the point. Newbee is the only thing that's difficult to beat until LB5 ( DC or loser out of Ehome/EG)

I still think MVP/Wings are pretty hard.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
August 10 2016 22:27 GMT
#1522
On August 11 2016 07:25 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 07:22 uriel- wrote:
rotk and burning are really pessimistic about newbee's chances

say they just look like the weaker team after two games


They've been the weaker team in both games, but it's going to come down to the draft. It always comes down to the draft.

I agree, drafting is too strong atm imo, I wish the balance would shift a bit more towards execution.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 10 2016 22:27 GMT
#1523
On August 11 2016 07:26 ASoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 07:25 Toadesstern wrote:
On August 11 2016 07:23 IntoTheheart wrote:
On August 11 2016 07:23 lolfail9001 wrote:
Really though, remember i said Liquid probably have easiest LB they could ask for?

I stand by my words.

They get Fnatic next.

that's the point. Newbee is the only thing that's difficult to beat until LB5 ( DC or loser out of Ehome/EG)

I still think MVP/Wings are pretty hard.

MVP are not hard if you can draft-out their "run at you" strat.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 10 2016 22:27 GMT
#1524
On August 11 2016 07:27 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 07:26 ASoo wrote:
On August 11 2016 07:25 Toadesstern wrote:
On August 11 2016 07:23 IntoTheheart wrote:
On August 11 2016 07:23 lolfail9001 wrote:
Really though, remember i said Liquid probably have easiest LB they could ask for?

I stand by my words.

They get Fnatic next.

that's the point. Newbee is the only thing that's difficult to beat until LB5 ( DC or loser out of Ehome/EG)

I still think MVP/Wings are pretty hard.

MVP are not hard if you can draft-out their "run at you" strat.

You also have to out execute it.
kiss kiss fall in love
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
August 10 2016 22:28 GMT
#1525
oh god wisp. This can get ugly
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
phantomlancer23
Profile Joined May 2013
730 Posts
August 10 2016 22:28 GMT
#1526
ok newbee wisp pls chuan gg already.
ASoo
Profile Joined November 2010
2864 Posts
August 10 2016 22:28 GMT
#1527
On August 11 2016 07:27 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 07:26 ASoo wrote:
On August 11 2016 07:25 Toadesstern wrote:
On August 11 2016 07:23 IntoTheheart wrote:
On August 11 2016 07:23 lolfail9001 wrote:
Really though, remember i said Liquid probably have easiest LB they could ask for?

I stand by my words.

They get Fnatic next.

that's the point. Newbee is the only thing that's difficult to beat until LB5 ( DC or loser out of Ehome/EG)

I still think MVP/Wings are pretty hard.

MVP are not hard if you can draft-out their "run at you" strat.

Yeah, but the teams that have thought they could do that and failed litter the lower placements at a lot of tournaments.
HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
August 10 2016 22:28 GMT
#1528
SD MIRANA AGAIN U SRS NEWBEE
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
August 10 2016 22:29 GMT
#1529
On August 11 2016 07:27 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 07:26 ASoo wrote:
On August 11 2016 07:25 Toadesstern wrote:
On August 11 2016 07:23 IntoTheheart wrote:
On August 11 2016 07:23 lolfail9001 wrote:
Really though, remember i said Liquid probably have easiest LB they could ask for?

I stand by my words.

They get Fnatic next.

that's the point. Newbee is the only thing that's difficult to beat until LB5 ( DC or loser out of Ehome/EG)

I still think MVP/Wings are pretty hard.

MVP are not hard if you can draft-out their "run at you" strat.

Wings aren't that good if they aren't the aggressor too.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
August 10 2016 22:29 GMT
#1530
OH GOD LIQUID. BAN THE HUSKAR/DAZZLE. PLLLLLZ
"losers always whine about their best, Winners go home and fuck the prom queen"
Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
August 10 2016 22:29 GMT
#1531
Newbee really overrated batrider imo.
“Are you with the Cartel? Because you’re definitely an Angel.”
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32742 Posts
August 10 2016 22:29 GMT
#1532
On August 11 2016 07:27 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 07:26 ASoo wrote:
On August 11 2016 07:25 Toadesstern wrote:
On August 11 2016 07:23 IntoTheheart wrote:
On August 11 2016 07:23 lolfail9001 wrote:
Really though, remember i said Liquid probably have easiest LB they could ask for?

I stand by my words.

They get Fnatic next.

that's the point. Newbee is the only thing that's difficult to beat until LB5 ( DC or loser out of Ehome/EG)

I still think MVP/Wings are pretty hard.

MVP are not hard if you can draft-out their "run at you" strat.

That's what they said about game 1 and 3 against OG.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 10 2016 22:29 GMT
#1533
On August 11 2016 07:27 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 07:27 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 11 2016 07:26 ASoo wrote:
On August 11 2016 07:25 Toadesstern wrote:
On August 11 2016 07:23 IntoTheheart wrote:
On August 11 2016 07:23 lolfail9001 wrote:
Really though, remember i said Liquid probably have easiest LB they could ask for?

I stand by my words.

They get Fnatic next.

that's the point. Newbee is the only thing that's difficult to beat until LB5 ( DC or loser out of Ehome/EG)

I still think MVP/Wings are pretty hard.

MVP are not hard if you can draft-out their "run at you" strat.

You also have to out execute it.

Ban PA, pick Razor.

Here, recipe to beating MVP's best strat straight from LanM.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
sunrazgriz
Profile Joined April 2015
Vatican City State1573 Posts
August 10 2016 22:29 GMT
#1534
bat vs SD again... already bad drafting from kaka
6nnn
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 10 2016 22:30 GMT
#1535
On August 11 2016 07:29 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 07:27 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 11 2016 07:26 ASoo wrote:
On August 11 2016 07:25 Toadesstern wrote:
On August 11 2016 07:23 IntoTheheart wrote:
On August 11 2016 07:23 lolfail9001 wrote:
Really though, remember i said Liquid probably have easiest LB they could ask for?

I stand by my words.

They get Fnatic next.

that's the point. Newbee is the only thing that's difficult to beat until LB5 ( DC or loser out of Ehome/EG)

I still think MVP/Wings are pretty hard.

MVP are not hard if you can draft-out their "run at you" strat.

That's what they said about game 1 and 3 against OG.

That's the point, you don't counter it, unless you are EHOME.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7593 Posts
August 10 2016 22:30 GMT
#1536
Same shit again
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-10 22:31:02
August 10 2016 22:30 GMT
#1537
On August 11 2016 07:28 ASoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 07:27 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 11 2016 07:26 ASoo wrote:
On August 11 2016 07:25 Toadesstern wrote:
On August 11 2016 07:23 IntoTheheart wrote:
On August 11 2016 07:23 lolfail9001 wrote:
Really though, remember i said Liquid probably have easiest LB they could ask for?

I stand by my words.

They get Fnatic next.

that's the point. Newbee is the only thing that's difficult to beat until LB5 ( DC or loser out of Ehome/EG)

I still think MVP/Wings are pretty hard.

MVP are not hard if you can draft-out their "run at you" strat.

Yeah, but the teams that have thought they could do that and failed litter the lower placements at a lot of tournaments.

Well, EHOME has something to say.

As does every team that has beaten MVP in Shanghai and Manilla after they have won first round of UB.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
August 10 2016 22:30 GMT
#1538
On August 11 2016 07:29 Darpa wrote:
OH GOD LIQUID. BAN THE HUSKAR/DAZZLE. PLLLLLZ


there you go
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
Achaian
Profile Joined April 2015
United States3369 Posts
August 10 2016 22:30 GMT
#1539
On August 11 2016 07:18 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 07:14 Achaian wrote:
On August 11 2016 07:12 Kuroeeah wrote:
On August 11 2016 07:09 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 11 2016 07:08 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On August 11 2016 07:05 Zea! wrote:
On August 11 2016 07:04 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On August 11 2016 07:00 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:58 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:47 bagels21 wrote:
[quote]

the meta is such a way now that perfect TI3 style Alliance play is not possible

Here's a secret for people with the rose-tinted glasses.

The larger the skill gap between teams, the better the winning team looks.

Alliance around TI3 looked "perfect" because they had a clean, methodical, efficient style that 14/15 other teams had no idea how to deal with, which let them do everything they wanted to do.

These days the skill level of the previous "dumpster" teams has risen immensely, and there is so competitive exposure to each team, that teams have to be far more adaptable and versatile than Alliance was.

TI5 CDEC disprove your statement.

Okay, should probably clarify "across an entire season".

There are still plenty of one-tournament wonders that can dominate within a week and across 20ish games.

But a team like Alliance that played the same style, more or less, across months all the way to TI and still dominate will likely never happen again.


Secret pre-TI5

And then got crushed in TI5 because they didn't move with the meta.

Which was my point...

They got crushed in TI5 because they fell apart in TI5, not because they didn't keep up with meta.

I agree, Secret played that meta really well, it's just the team fell apart and S4 missed all his ults on QoP that made them fail that year. This year's Secret lost because they devolved into becoming Mineski.


does no one remember when secret got figured out in the upper bracket by a chinese team with SD-Mirana destroying zai's offlane bristle

secret got figured out and failed to adapt

I don't remember anyone picking SD-Potm against Secret at TI5.


I looked through TI5 and it must have been somewhere else. My bad.
Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
August 10 2016 22:31 GMT
#1540
Newbee alch, called it.
“Are you with the Cartel? Because you’re definitely an Angel.”
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