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uriel-
Profile Joined August 2007
Singapore1867 Posts
August 10 2016 21:39 GMT
#1301
On August 11 2016 06:37 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 06:36 uriel- wrote:
At 12-0 rotk said Newbee still had a shot because liquid's lineup couldn't actually win the game

At something like 17-4 burning said it was over and that liquid was just waiting to gg

I mean 17-4 is when Liquid lost control of this game entirely with Ember's death, didn't they?


Pretty much. Even before that, liquid already lost control and you could see they didn't dare to farm lanes alone anymore despite being 15 kills and over 10k up.

HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-10 21:39:42
August 10 2016 21:39 GMT
#1302
On August 11 2016 06:39 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 06:38 HammerKick wrote:
Where's RedEye? Is he taking a break?

This is the drafting panel, not the personality one.


Why are they on the panel that the personalities used then? I'm so confused :D
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 10 2016 21:40 GMT
#1303
On August 11 2016 06:39 HammerKick wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 06:39 IntoTheheart wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:38 HammerKick wrote:
Where's RedEye? Is he taking a break?

This is the drafting panel, not the personality one.


Why are they on the panel that the personalities used then? I'm so confused :D

I'm also confused to be honest. :/
kiss kiss fall in love
Gevna
Profile Joined August 2010
France2332 Posts
August 10 2016 21:40 GMT
#1304
On August 11 2016 06:38 Zizy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 06:36 Gevna wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:35 Zizy wrote:
People surprised that a team who amassed tons of advantage lost after giving away 3-4 kills. Welcome to the post rubberband patch DotA ( and yes even after it was nerfed).

Yeah we never withnessed such naga games before the comeback mechanics. Never.


I never said that we never saw such games, but nowdays you get a lot more money then you did before. Then the psychological aspect kicks in after you know you gave a lot of money and then from there on its a snowball.

Ah the psychological effet. Maybe then proplayers should try a bit of therapy to counter the rubberband. :-/
schmitty9800
Profile Joined August 2010
United States390 Posts
August 10 2016 21:40 GMT
#1305
On August 11 2016 06:38 hunter_x wrote:
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On August 11 2016 06:31 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:31 hunter_x wrote:
well fucking naga ruining everything

Liquid ruined it for themselves. Naga was just a finishing blow.

still without naga newbee dont win this game.

It would have been similar with an Alche or Ember in the Naga role.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 10 2016 21:40 GMT
#1306
On August 11 2016 06:39 uriel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 06:37 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:36 uriel- wrote:
At 12-0 rotk said Newbee still had a shot because liquid's lineup couldn't actually win the game

At something like 17-4 burning said it was over and that liquid was just waiting to gg

I mean 17-4 is when Liquid lost control of this game entirely with Ember's death, didn't they?


Pretty much. Even before that, liquid already lost control and you could see they didn't dare to farm lanes alone anymore despite being 15 kills and over 10k up.


That's because it was after potm death.

Anyways, Liquid have lost this game more than Newbee have won it if you ask me (even if Newbee did play well after laning disaster).
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
August 10 2016 21:40 GMT
#1307
On August 11 2016 06:37 DV G wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 06:35 Zizy wrote:
People surprised that a team who amassed tons of advantage lost after giving away 3-4 kills. Welcome to the post rubberband patch DotA ( and yes even after it was nerfed).



If you think this is just about rubberband and not

1-Newbee playing their draft 100%
2-Liquid failing to group up and push
3-Not choking the only hero that they needed (naga)
4-Not having a real base breaking strategy/hero
5-Bad item choices


Then I have news for you.


I don't think you understand how rubberband complaints work.

If both of the following are true:
1) The team you like had a substantial lead
2) The team you like lost

The rubberband is always to blame.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
August 10 2016 21:40 GMT
#1308
On August 11 2016 06:38 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 06:36 uriel- wrote:
At 12-0 rotk said Newbee still had a shot because liquid's lineup couldn't actually win the game

At something like 17-4 burning said it was over and that liquid was just waiting to gg

That's foresight... damn. o_o


Like Winter, they are the true oracles this game deserves.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
kaykaykay
Profile Joined July 2012
Singapore637 Posts
August 10 2016 21:40 GMT
#1309
On August 11 2016 06:36 uriel- wrote:
At 12-0 rotk said Newbee still had a shot because liquid's lineup couldn't actually win the game

At something like 17-4 burning said it was over and that liquid was just waiting to gg


do you lag when watching rotk's stream?
Starve the ego, feed the soul.
bagels21
Profile Joined August 2012
United States4357 Posts
August 10 2016 21:40 GMT
#1310
On August 11 2016 06:37 Kuroeeah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 06:35 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:34 Kuroeeah wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:31 Zea! wrote:
Newbee looks amazing tbh, this gives more value to EG's victory

I think Ehome and EG are the strongest teams right now, i feel pretty sure the winner of that series will just win ti.

You forget Wings.

These are the sort of guys who may just wreck EG in the final with first pick bloodseeker sending PPD into BSOD.

i don't believe in wings after their groups and EG has improved to the point where they're just beyond what they showed in starladder with picking stupid shit and drafts.

i mean personally, i'd like it if eg didn't win but this isn't the same eg that crumbled against FRIENDS.


honestly the EG sandbagging or creating a narrative "chip on their shoulders" theory is really making a lot of sense now.

This is basically the same team as last year with an upgrade at the 4
Hydrolisko
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Vanuatu1659 Posts
August 10 2016 21:40 GMT
#1311
that was really a draft loss. there was nothing you can do with that lineup/matchup.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 10 2016 21:40 GMT
#1312
On August 11 2016 06:40 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 06:38 IntoTheheart wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:36 uriel- wrote:
At 12-0 rotk said Newbee still had a shot because liquid's lineup couldn't actually win the game

At something like 17-4 burning said it was over and that liquid was just waiting to gg

That's foresight... damn. o_o


Like Winter, they are the true oracles this game deserves.

Maybe they should go into full-time casting. rOtk going ham would also be great to see on the panel.
kiss kiss fall in love
Neazbo
Profile Joined May 2013
United Kingdom698 Posts
August 10 2016 21:41 GMT
#1313
We're possibly one game away from OG and Liquid not making top 8, the fuck has happened this TI?
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 10 2016 21:41 GMT
#1314
On August 11 2016 06:40 bagels21 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 06:37 Kuroeeah wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:35 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:34 Kuroeeah wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:31 Zea! wrote:
Newbee looks amazing tbh, this gives more value to EG's victory

I think Ehome and EG are the strongest teams right now, i feel pretty sure the winner of that series will just win ti.

You forget Wings.

These are the sort of guys who may just wreck EG in the final with first pick bloodseeker sending PPD into BSOD.

i don't believe in wings after their groups and EG has improved to the point where they're just beyond what they showed in starladder with picking stupid shit and drafts.

i mean personally, i'd like it if eg didn't win but this isn't the same eg that crumbled against FRIENDS.


honestly the EG sandbagging or creating a narrative "chip on their shoulders" theory is really making a lot of sense now.

This is basically the same team as last year with an upgrade at the 4

To be honest, none of same EG players have shown same level of play they had at TI5 until match with Newbee.

Zai is a fucking god, though.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Daray
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
6006 Posts
August 10 2016 21:41 GMT
#1315
On August 11 2016 06:40 schmitty9800 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 06:38 hunter_x wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:31 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:31 hunter_x wrote:
well fucking naga ruining everything

Liquid ruined it for themselves. Naga was just a finishing blow.

still without naga newbee dont win this game.

It would have been similar with an Alche or Ember in the Naga role.


Most definitely not. They could actually try and push the high ground against those heroes and those heroes don't push the lanes as well as Naga.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
August 10 2016 21:41 GMT
#1316
On August 11 2016 06:40 schmitty9800 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 06:38 hunter_x wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:31 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:31 hunter_x wrote:
well fucking naga ruining everything

Liquid ruined it for themselves. Naga was just a finishing blow.

still without naga newbee dont win this game.

It would have been similar with an Alche or Ember in the Naga role.


Nah Alch is a trash hero and he wouldn't have survived the initial onslaught anywhere near as good as Naga did

Ember, Spectre with Haunt for every Nyx/Naix bomb, even Void would have won as well for Newbee though
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
August 10 2016 21:41 GMT
#1317
Naga illusions killed the stream

fucking Naga
Neosteel Enthusiast
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 10 2016 21:41 GMT
#1318
On August 11 2016 06:40 Hydrolisko wrote:
that was really a draft loss. there was nothing you can do with that lineup/matchup.

Well, you can actually, but it requires having a plan after taking advantage, not going full Euro dota after winning laning stage.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
August 10 2016 21:42 GMT
#1319
picnic ?
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
DV G
Profile Joined September 2012
Argentina2339 Posts
August 10 2016 21:42 GMT
#1320
On August 11 2016 06:40 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 06:37 DV G wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:35 Zizy wrote:
People surprised that a team who amassed tons of advantage lost after giving away 3-4 kills. Welcome to the post rubberband patch DotA ( and yes even after it was nerfed).



If you think this is just about rubberband and not

1-Newbee playing their draft 100%
2-Liquid failing to group up and push
3-Not choking the only hero that they needed (naga)
4-Not having a real base breaking strategy/hero
5-Bad item choices


Then I have news for you.


I don't think you understand how rubberband complaints work.

If both of the following are true:
1) The team you like had a substantial lead
2) The team you like lost

The rubberband is always to blame.



I mean its more than a year and people keep complaining about this stupid shit. Even pros have just adapted to it and say fuck it.
Idk start a referendum in forums if you want something to change but its always the same when those 2 variables you posted check in.
Go pro or die trying
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