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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 10 2016 21:42 GMT
#1321
On August 11 2016 06:41 Neazbo wrote:
We're possibly one game away from OG and Liquid not making top 8, the fuck has happened this TI?

You can blame any of the following:
Poll: What went wrong?

Anime (18)
 
60%

doto things (10)
 
33%

Unerdogs overperformed (1)
 
3%

meta (1)
 
3%

30 total votes

Your vote: What went wrong?

(Vote): Anime
(Vote): doto things
(Vote): Unerdogs overperformed
(Vote): meta



kiss kiss fall in love
bagels21
Profile Joined August 2012
United States4357 Posts
August 10 2016 21:42 GMT
#1322
On August 11 2016 06:41 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 06:40 bagels21 wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:37 Kuroeeah wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:35 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:34 Kuroeeah wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:31 Zea! wrote:
Newbee looks amazing tbh, this gives more value to EG's victory

I think Ehome and EG are the strongest teams right now, i feel pretty sure the winner of that series will just win ti.

You forget Wings.

These are the sort of guys who may just wreck EG in the final with first pick bloodseeker sending PPD into BSOD.

i don't believe in wings after their groups and EG has improved to the point where they're just beyond what they showed in starladder with picking stupid shit and drafts.

i mean personally, i'd like it if eg didn't win but this isn't the same eg that crumbled against FRIENDS.


honestly the EG sandbagging or creating a narrative "chip on their shoulders" theory is really making a lot of sense now.

This is basically the same team as last year with an upgrade at the 4

To be honest, none of same EG players have shown same level of play they had at TI5 until match with Newbee.

Zai is a fucking god, though.


Fear and PPD have though.

sumail's patch heroes aren't the same and universe isn't the "best player in the world anymore"

but they picked up arguably the most talented free agent available and moved Fear to his best role
HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
August 10 2016 21:42 GMT
#1323
On August 11 2016 06:40 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 06:40 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:38 IntoTheheart wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:36 uriel- wrote:
At 12-0 rotk said Newbee still had a shot because liquid's lineup couldn't actually win the game

At something like 17-4 burning said it was over and that liquid was just waiting to gg

That's foresight... damn. o_o


Like Winter, they are the true oracles this game deserves.

Maybe they should go into full-time casting. rOtk going ham would also be great to see on the panel.


You want rotk to speak english?

Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
August 10 2016 21:42 GMT
#1324
You guys also need to remember theres a bat and 0 bat counters. Anyone hitting tower can get dragged to T4s. I still think not pushing highground was a solid choice. But they needed to choke them out better. It was nyx/naix finding picks. If its Liquid finding picks Naix will end up below 3-4 liquid heroes.
uriel-
Profile Joined August 2007
Singapore1867 Posts
August 10 2016 21:43 GMT
#1325
On August 11 2016 06:40 kaykaykay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 06:36 uriel- wrote:
At 12-0 rotk said Newbee still had a shot because liquid's lineup couldn't actually win the game

At something like 17-4 burning said it was over and that liquid was just waiting to gg


do you lag when watching rotk's stream?


Like a bitch unless I run it on minimum resolution and switch channels once in awhile.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-10 21:43:35
August 10 2016 21:43 GMT
#1326
On August 11 2016 06:42 HammerKick wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 06:40 IntoTheheart wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:40 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:38 IntoTheheart wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:36 uriel- wrote:
At 12-0 rotk said Newbee still had a shot because liquid's lineup couldn't actually win the game

At something like 17-4 burning said it was over and that liquid was just waiting to gg

That's foresight... damn. o_o


Like Winter, they are the true oracles this game deserves.

Maybe they should go into full-time casting. rOtk going ham would also be great to see on the panel.


You want rotk to speak english?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqcjypcs4Pc

No, I just want rOtk to go ham while casting, like the Korean commentators during the BW days.

On August 11 2016 06:43 uriel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 06:40 kaykaykay wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:36 uriel- wrote:
At 12-0 rotk said Newbee still had a shot because liquid's lineup couldn't actually win the game

At something like 17-4 burning said it was over and that liquid was just waiting to gg


do you lag when watching rotk's stream?


Like a bitch unless I run it on minimum resolution and switch channels once in awhile.


And you're also from a country with good internet.

;__;
kiss kiss fall in love
wuhan_clan
Profile Joined April 2012
United States5609 Posts
August 10 2016 21:43 GMT
#1327
Pretty sure EG tanked Starladder on purpose. They have been known to skip tournaments before if they weren't worth it and no one of significance was at Starladder unless you counted Na'Vi. But since they hadn't really played many tournaments, they decided to go anyway as a warm up for TI but without revealing their true strengths. Going into TI with a target on your back usually does not bode well for teams. Good long term strategy from EG so that they can peak at TI and surprise everyone.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
August 10 2016 21:44 GMT
#1328
On August 11 2016 06:40 schmitty9800 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 06:38 hunter_x wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:31 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:31 hunter_x wrote:
well fucking naga ruining everything

Liquid ruined it for themselves. Naga was just a finishing blow.

still without naga newbee dont win this game.

It would have been similar with an Alche or Ember in the Naga role.

Not even close, those guys don't have a reset button and a BKB piercing disable.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
August 10 2016 21:44 GMT
#1329
Guys, Starladder meant 0 for EG, literally nothing, i mean they played AA and IO mid for Sumail... stop taking that joke tourney like something to count to evaluate the team
The Real Power~
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 10 2016 21:45 GMT
#1330
On August 11 2016 06:44 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 06:40 schmitty9800 wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:38 hunter_x wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:31 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:31 hunter_x wrote:
well fucking naga ruining everything

Liquid ruined it for themselves. Naga was just a finishing blow.

still without naga newbee dont win this game.

It would have been similar with an Alche or Ember in the Naga role.

Not even close, those guys don't have a reset button and a BKB piercing disable.

This reset button was not even used well this game, as was BKB piercing disable.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
August 10 2016 21:45 GMT
#1331
On August 11 2016 06:43 wuhan_clan wrote:
Pretty sure EG tanked Starladder on purpose. They have been known to skip tournaments before if they weren't worth it and no one of significance was at Starladder unless you counted Na'Vi. But since they hadn't really played many tournaments, they decided to go anyway as a warm up for TI but without revealing their true strengths. Going into TI with a target on your back usually does not bode well for teams. Good long term strategy from EG so that they can peak at TI and surprise everyone.

ok dude, stop with the toluene
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
August 10 2016 21:45 GMT
#1332
On August 11 2016 06:43 uriel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 06:40 kaykaykay wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:36 uriel- wrote:
At 12-0 rotk said Newbee still had a shot because liquid's lineup couldn't actually win the game

At something like 17-4 burning said it was over and that liquid was just waiting to gg


do you lag when watching rotk's stream?


Like a bitch unless I run it on minimum resolution and switch channels once in awhile.

Channel 3 is best.
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-10 21:47:46
August 10 2016 21:45 GMT
#1333
On August 11 2016 06:41 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 06:40 bagels21 wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:37 Kuroeeah wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:35 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:34 Kuroeeah wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:31 Zea! wrote:
Newbee looks amazing tbh, this gives more value to EG's victory

I think Ehome and EG are the strongest teams right now, i feel pretty sure the winner of that series will just win ti.

You forget Wings.

These are the sort of guys who may just wreck EG in the final with first pick bloodseeker sending PPD into BSOD.

i don't believe in wings after their groups and EG has improved to the point where they're just beyond what they showed in starladder with picking stupid shit and drafts.

i mean personally, i'd like it if eg didn't win but this isn't the same eg that crumbled against FRIENDS.


honestly the EG sandbagging or creating a narrative "chip on their shoulders" theory is really making a lot of sense now.

This is basically the same team as last year with an upgrade at the 4

To be honest, none of same EG players have shown same level of play they had at TI5 until match with Newbee.

Zai is a fucking god, though.

It doesn't matter, this TI is just so sloppy in general. The games look wild and exciting but don't kid yourself, it's not that the teams are actually playing amazing but it's because teams are fucking up a lot which produces these sorts of games. Every team made some baffling errors. I feel ALMOST sure that EHome is stronger than Wings whereas I'm still not sure if MVP is coin flipping their way to victory.
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
August 10 2016 21:46 GMT
#1334
On August 11 2016 06:42 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 06:41 Neazbo wrote:
We're possibly one game away from OG and Liquid not making top 8, the fuck has happened this TI?

You can blame any of the following:
Poll: What went wrong?

Anime (18)
 
60%

doto things (10)
 
33%

Unerdogs overperformed (1)
 
3%

meta (1)
 
3%

30 total votes

Your vote: What went wrong?

(Vote): Anime
(Vote): doto things
(Vote): Unerdogs overperformed
(Vote): meta





No jokes about EU or the Rio Olympics, I'm disappointed
Mouzone
Profile Joined April 2011
3937 Posts
August 10 2016 21:46 GMT
#1335
EU DotA on the brink of elimination. We believe in you, Liquid!
bagels21
Profile Joined August 2012
United States4357 Posts
August 10 2016 21:47 GMT
#1336
On August 11 2016 06:45 Kuroeeah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 06:41 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:40 bagels21 wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:37 Kuroeeah wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:35 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:34 Kuroeeah wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:31 Zea! wrote:
Newbee looks amazing tbh, this gives more value to EG's victory

I think Ehome and EG are the strongest teams right now, i feel pretty sure the winner of that series will just win ti.

You forget Wings.

These are the sort of guys who may just wreck EG in the final with first pick bloodseeker sending PPD into BSOD.

i don't believe in wings after their groups and EG has improved to the point where they're just beyond what they showed in starladder with picking stupid shit and drafts.

i mean personally, i'd like it if eg didn't win but this isn't the same eg that crumbled against FRIENDS.


honestly the EG sandbagging or creating a narrative "chip on their shoulders" theory is really making a lot of sense now.

This is basically the same team as last year with an upgrade at the 4

To be honest, none of same EG players have shown same level of play they had at TI5 until match with Newbee.

Zai is a fucking god, though.

It doesn't matter, this TI is just so sloppy in general. The games look wild and some are even exciting but these teams are fucking up a lot, and every team made some baffling errors. I feel ALMOST sure that EHome is stronger than Wings and I'm still not sure if MVP is coin flipping their way to victory.


the meta is such a way now that perfect TI3 style Alliance play is not possible
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 10 2016 21:47 GMT
#1337
On August 11 2016 06:42 Kreb wrote:
You guys also need to remember theres a bat and 0 bat counters. Anyone hitting tower can get dragged to T4s. I still think not pushing highground was a solid choice. But they needed to choke them out better. It was nyx/naix finding picks. If its Liquid finding picks Naix will end up below 3-4 liquid heroes.

X marks the cheese, here is your answer to bat.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
August 10 2016 21:47 GMT
#1338
On August 11 2016 06:45 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 06:44 nojok wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:40 schmitty9800 wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:38 hunter_x wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:31 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:31 hunter_x wrote:
well fucking naga ruining everything

Liquid ruined it for themselves. Naga was just a finishing blow.

still without naga newbee dont win this game.

It would have been similar with an Alche or Ember in the Naga role.

Not even close, those guys don't have a reset button and a BKB piercing disable.

This reset button was not even used well this game, as was BKB piercing disable.

It did more than concoction or chains would have done by a lot. Liquid heroes died a lot to the late song in the fights, they just decided to keep the song for naix only or once they won the fight was over to kill escaping heroes.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Achaian
Profile Joined April 2015
United States3369 Posts
August 10 2016 21:48 GMT
#1339
On August 11 2016 06:47 bagels21 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 06:45 Kuroeeah wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:41 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:40 bagels21 wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:37 Kuroeeah wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:35 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:34 Kuroeeah wrote:
On August 11 2016 06:31 Zea! wrote:
Newbee looks amazing tbh, this gives more value to EG's victory

I think Ehome and EG are the strongest teams right now, i feel pretty sure the winner of that series will just win ti.

You forget Wings.

These are the sort of guys who may just wreck EG in the final with first pick bloodseeker sending PPD into BSOD.

i don't believe in wings after their groups and EG has improved to the point where they're just beyond what they showed in starladder with picking stupid shit and drafts.

i mean personally, i'd like it if eg didn't win but this isn't the same eg that crumbled against FRIENDS.


honestly the EG sandbagging or creating a narrative "chip on their shoulders" theory is really making a lot of sense now.

This is basically the same team as last year with an upgrade at the 4

To be honest, none of same EG players have shown same level of play they had at TI5 until match with Newbee.

Zai is a fucking god, though.

It doesn't matter, this TI is just so sloppy in general. The games look wild and some are even exciting but these teams are fucking up a lot, and every team made some baffling errors. I feel ALMOST sure that EHome is stronger than Wings and I'm still not sure if MVP is coin flipping their way to victory.


the meta is such a way now that perfect TI3 style Alliance play is not possible


I'm just a scrub and not very good at dota, but I suspect that this answer holds a lot of truth
Kalaway
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada36 Posts
August 10 2016 21:48 GMT
#1340
Good idea on the naga ban
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