[ManilaMajor] China Main Qualifiers - Day 1

On May 03 2016 12:34 Daray wrote:
Rotk was garbage for so long now. Why did he get into VG in the first place?

On May 03 2016 12:50 Kuroeeah wrote:
rotk is a great player to have in your team and team morale. he'll receive the flame for his hilarious plays and he'll receive the majority of the community flame over everyone else.

On May 03 2016 13:04 uriel- wrote:
I think that qop ult was aimed in literally the one spot where it was possible to miss everyone

Like if he clicked anywhere else he would've gotten someone with it

That's pretty amazing in a way

On May 03 2016 13:08 Orome wrote:


It really was. And this is cty's best hero. The hero that was an instant firstban vs Ehome for a long time because he was such a god on it.

wtf happened lol

On May 03 2016 13:09 Azarkon wrote:
What happened? Old players who don't want to practice happened.

On May 03 2016 13:14 CxWiLL wrote:

I believe super and yao are also on your list of ‘Old players who don't want to practice’.

On May 03 2016 13:26 Ultimo Hombre wrote:
why did cty leave honestly, it seemed dumb then, it seems dumb now (though ehome arent doing too hot either)

On May 03 2016 13:26 Ultimo Hombre wrote:
why did cty leave honestly, it seemed dumb then, it seems dumb now (though ehome arent doing too hot either)

On May 03 2016 13:26 Ultimo Hombre wrote:
why did cty leave honestly, it seemed dumb then, it seems dumb now (though ehome arent doing too hot either)

On May 03 2016 14:03 Chrian wrote:
I thought ice3 was supporting on new ehome, and lanm was back to pos. 1?

On May 03 2016 14:03 Chrian wrote:
I thought ice3 was supporting on new ehome, and lanm was back to pos. 1?

On May 03 2016 14:14 [Erasmus] wrote:
iceiceice on support leading the net worth at 11 minutes.... #justice^3things

On May 03 2016 14:36 an00bis wrote:


You really are overrating him as support (not even playing support anymore from looks of it)

On May 03 2016 14:44 Orome wrote:
how'd vg vs ig.v go?

On May 03 2016 13:28 Orome wrote:


There really wasn't that much info about it, at least in English. I'm curious too.

On May 03 2016 14:55 Kamisamanachi wrote:
Seems like the only style vg can play is to drag it out late game . a team with rotk has struggling early game every game is worrisome. Cty played a dogshit qop against cdec tho..won lane and threw away all the lead with 1 missed sonic wave

On May 03 2016 15:00 Ultimo Hombre wrote:

? pretty sure VG won the early game in the previous game

On May 03 2016 15:03 DucK- wrote:
I think it is very sad that Chinese teams are favouring alchemist and Medusa so early on. It shows their approach to the game, in that they still believe in their old farm farm farm style in which they hope for opponents to play bad and thus winning by dragging out and having a crazier stronger late game carry. They don't bother trying to take the initiative anymore it seems.

On May 03 2016 15:01 Kamisamanachi wrote:


They threw away all the lead with 1 mistake when they let lifestealer get away and then they just sat there doing nothing watching their towers fall. Seriously , that bot lane mistake from rotk turned whole game..

On May 03 2016 15:38 Kamisamanachi wrote:
Whoever makes calls for vg should just be changed..these calls are soo bad lmao

On May 03 2016 15:47 uriel- wrote:


Dat rotk leadership

On May 03 2016 16:00 Thetwinmasters wrote:
wrong doom target lost cdec the game

On May 03 2016 16:22 hfglgg wrote:
i just realised they have stopped using the 3 points rule for the qualifier.
they are learning, rejoice!.

On May 03 2016 16:22 hfglgg wrote:
i just realised they have stopped using the 3 points rule for the qualifier.
they are learning, rejoice!.

On May 03 2016 16:26 Mafe wrote:

True. However I'm not a big fan of double elimination in a tournament where only the first place matters.

On May 03 2016 16:26 Mafe wrote:

True. However I'm not a big fan of double elimination in a tournament where only the first place matters.

On May 03 2016 17:28 Geisterkarle wrote:

What was his bounty?
And while he died, I think a 17/1/2 KDA is not that bad in the end...

On May 03 2016 19:59 TanGeng wrote:
oh yeah mirana aghs

On May 03 2016 20:13 goody153 wrote:
So who's leading ? apart from newbee (i assume they still own) nvmnd they haven't played yet

On May 03 2016 20:31 Nyan wrote:
vg should be out losing 2 series

On May 03 2016 21:21 MaCRo.gg wrote:
How has kpii looked in Newbee games? I haven't seen him compete in a while.

On May 03 2016 21:25 goody153 wrote:
who would've thought that kpii dude from mvp last year who was so awful works well with newbee

On May 03 2016 21:23 TanGeng wrote:
I'm glad NewBee still knows how to throw (but only a bit). LOL

On May 03 2016 21:25 goody153 wrote:
who would've thought that kpii dude from mvp last year who was so awful works well with newbee

On May 03 2016 21:29 MaCRo.gg wrote:

Yeah a pretty big surprise to me as well. After he left MVP and was floating around Chinese B teams I thought he was fading out, but from what I've been hearing about Newbee he seems to be on the rise.

On May 03 2016 21:32 Kamisamanachi wrote:


Remember his naga siren??..woo yolo !!

On May 03 2016 21:32 goody153 wrote:

They are clearly the best chinese team after the shanghai shuffle result wise (well against chinese teams since they never played against western teams that period) which brought the outrage as to why they were not invited.



I distinctly remember his naga siren rofl

On May 03 2016 21:34 Kamisamanachi wrote:


Turned out he brought that one with him in newbee..now he plays offlane naga for them and farms radiance in 20 mins

On May 03 2016 21:37 goody153 wrote:
ok can bts turn of the overlay the draft is up already


Wait what ?

hahahahahhaha wooooo kpii what a god

On May 03 2016 22:14 opterown wrote:
newbee look good

On May 03 2016 21:58 Gevna wrote:
VG is such a disappointment for me :-(

On May 03 2016 22:15 MaCRo.gg wrote:
Has anyone seen NutZ (MVP.P)?

On May 03 2016 22:52 lolfail9001 wrote:
So, how did EHOME look?

From what i saw LanM is back to Support and iceiceice back to Offlane, right?

On May 03 2016 23:11 TanGeng wrote:
Old Eleven played a mean farmed invoker. But carrying the world as invoker seems to be the standard practice these days, unless you are Artezzy.

On May 04 2016 02:22 Azarkon wrote:
From first day results, the two favorites are Ehome and Newbee, with the latter being the more obvious favorite. I do not believe Ehome has ever been able to beat Newbee in an official game but that was before the change of Lanm back to support. Newbee looks to have run a MVP strategy in their second game; perhaps Kpii brought that knowledge after he left the team to make room for an all Korean MVP. The ability to run several strategies has always been important and has traditionally been what Newbee was weak at, so this might be what puts them over their previous ability.

In terms of these two teams, I'd rather see Newbee than Ehome at Manila as we've already seen Ehome plenty of times. But both teams have, in my opinion, a few weak players who might not be able to achieve world class. For Ehome, it is Chicken and Iceiceice, both of which are known to fail in international tournaments, Ehome might well be a team that has its best results over the internet and from the comfort of home, rather than at the event.

For Newbee, they have three old players. Yes, they did improve, and are near the skill that they once were at, but their best is known and it has never been above other region's best even before the rise of players such as Miracle, so at best they are solid, in which case the other players will have to make up for the difference. Kaka has a lot of talent, and has the ability to be world class, in my opinion. Kpii, however, is an issue for Newbee - he's not an off player you can get a lot of plays from, and he's never shown the ability to compete with world class off players in the past. This, I think, is what will make, or not make, Newbee a top international team: whether Kpii will rise above what he was.

On May 03 2016 21:58 Gevna wrote:
VG is such a disappointment for me :-(

On May 04 2016 02:22 Azarkon wrote:
From first day results, the two favorites are Ehome and Newbee, with the latter being the more obvious favorite. I do not believe Ehome has ever been able to beat Newbee in an official game but that was before the change of Lanm back to support. Newbee looks to have run a MVP strategy in their second game; perhaps Kpii brought that knowledge after he left the team to make room for an all Korean MVP. The ability to run several strategies has always been important and has traditionally been what Newbee was weak at, so this might be what puts them over their previous ability.

In terms of these two teams, I'd rather see Newbee than Ehome at Manila as we've already seen Ehome plenty of times. But both teams have, in my opinion, a few weak players who might not be able to achieve world class. For Ehome, it is Chicken and Iceiceice, both of which are known to fail in international tournaments, Ehome might well be a team that has its best results over the internet and from the comfort of home, rather than at the event.

For Newbee, they have three old players. Yes, they did improve, and are near the skill that they once were at, but their best is known and it has never been above other region's best even before the rise of players such as Miracle, so at best they are solid, in which case the other players will have to make up for the difference. Kaka has a lot of talent, and has the ability to be world class, in my opinion. Kpii, however, is an issue for Newbee - he's not an off player you can get a lot of plays from, and he's never shown the ability to compete with world class off players in the past. This, I think, is what will make, or not make, Newbee a top international team: whether Kpii will rise above what he was.

On May 04 2016 02:22 Azarkon wrote:
From first day results, the two favorites are Ehome and Newbee, with the latter being the more obvious favorite. I do not believe Ehome has ever been able to beat Newbee in an official game but that was before the change of Lanm back to support. Newbee looks to have run a MVP strategy in their second game; perhaps Kpii brought that knowledge after he left the team to make room for an all Korean MVP. The ability to run several strategies has always been important and has traditionally been what Newbee was weak at, so this might be what puts them over their previous ability.

In terms of these two teams, I'd rather see Newbee than Ehome at Manila as we've already seen Ehome plenty of times. But both teams have, in my opinion, a few weak players who might not be able to achieve world class. For Ehome, it is Chicken and Iceiceice, both of which are known to fail in international tournaments, Ehome might well be a team that has its best results over the internet and from the comfort of home, rather than at the event.

For Newbee, they have three old players. Yes, they did improve, and are near the skill that they once were at, but their best is known and it has never been above other region's best even before the rise of players such as Miracle, so at best they are solid, in which case the other players will have to make up for the difference. Kaka has a lot of talent, and has the ability to be world class, in my opinion. Kpii, however, is an issue for Newbee - he's not an off player you can get a lot of plays from, and he's never shown the ability to compete with world class off players in the past. This, I think, is what will make, or not make, Newbee a top international team: whether Kpii will rise above what he was.

On May 04 2016 10:04 CxWiLL wrote:


Just love the fact that you gave no fucks to the SEA/NA/EU qualifiers, came here to shit on the two teams that haven't drop a single game.
Keep on doing your great work.

On May 04 2016 10:51 Vertical wrote:
so you're saying miracle is better than the TI4 champions at their best *helicopter laughs*

On May 03 2016 23:27 uriel- wrote:


old chicken? He plays the invoker iirc

On May 04 2016 11:07 TanGeng wrote:

It was old chicken wasn't it. Yeah. Invoker is such a broken hero, I mixed up the mid with the carry... Silly me.

On May 04 2016 11:01 Azarkon wrote:


Of course I gave no shit about those. Every team that I think ought to be in Manila from those regions is already there. At best I'd watch the final of Southeast Asia and Europe, because the quality of the rest of the teams is low due to the large amount of invite.

But Newbee and Ehome are said to be top teams in China. Newbee is said to be the best team in China. So of course this is different. Is Secret in the Europe tournament? Is PPD's team?

On May 04 2016 11:14 CxWiLL wrote:

Oh
so you were comparing Ehome and Newbee to the top teams like
secret, that is 0-4 by Empire, which is now 0-1-1 on the bottom of the EU qualifier.
And PPD's team, that lost to Vega, which is also in the qualifier.

On May 04 2016 11:54 CosmicSpiral wrote:
iceiceice's build feels gimmicky despite all that gold. Maybe he should get the Lion hybrid for the extra Finger.

On May 04 2016 12:01 stuchiu wrote:
blademail > armlet?