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On October 29 2015 22:14 Wintex wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2015 22:12 goody153 wrote:guys help can't hear shit from the interview production value too epic On October 29 2015 22:10 Wintex wrote:On October 29 2015 22:08 goody153 wrote:On October 29 2015 22:07 Kreb wrote:On October 29 2015 22:06 Wintex wrote: what were the first phase bans from VG? Slardar Doom I believe. i think i'd rather ban slardar doom than ember for secret (windrunner can be switchable win lina and sf and other shit that w33ha plys) SF is way easier to kill and the kill potential of lina goes down with items on your own team. WR kills if it's a shackle Yeah but the thing i mean is that it fulfills the same role as what w33ha achieves with WR. SF hits really hard and lina actually pretty strong and similar to WR with the kiting and stuff. ye ye i know. the only thing this does is hype me for the majors. how will ppd break the new secret strategy? it's eg mang
eg can lose 2-0 to not today and the next day they suddenly figure out some super team
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On October 29 2015 22:15 bagels21 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2015 22:12 Wintex wrote:On October 29 2015 22:10 bagels21 wrote:On October 29 2015 22:09 Wintex wrote:On October 29 2015 22:08 Stancel wrote:On October 29 2015 22:07 Wintex wrote:On October 29 2015 22:06 Pandemona wrote:On October 29 2015 22:06 Wintex wrote: what were the first phase bans from VG? Same 2 both games, Doom and Tusk obviously meh, that is... did they prioritize side or pick? secret had pick priority and they chose fp yeah i think the key to beating them is picking their heroes and banning slardar doom aren't burning or super good at ember? They first picked Ember, and I don't think either play WR that well hmm... i do think NS with his silence might be good vs secret. it's also easier to play with his vision. how about picking slardar and banning ember or wr? yeah I think the answer is to ban ember, pick slardar and then hope W33 doesn't own maybe SWM to be a dick to him in lane and stun ult with slardarbro if you don't ban ember
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On October 29 2015 22:16 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2015 22:14 Wintex wrote:On October 29 2015 22:12 goody153 wrote:guys help can't hear shit from the interview production value too epic On October 29 2015 22:10 Wintex wrote:On October 29 2015 22:08 goody153 wrote:On October 29 2015 22:07 Kreb wrote:On October 29 2015 22:06 Wintex wrote: what were the first phase bans from VG? Slardar Doom I believe. i think i'd rather ban slardar doom than ember for secret (windrunner can be switchable win lina and sf and other shit that w33ha plys) SF is way easier to kill and the kill potential of lina goes down with items on your own team. WR kills if it's a shackle Yeah but the thing i mean is that it fulfills the same role as what w33ha achieves with WR. SF hits really hard and lina actually pretty strong and similar to WR with the kiting and stuff. ye ye i know. the only thing this does is hype me for the majors. how will ppd break the new secret strategy? it's eg mang eg can lose 2-0 to not today and the next day they suddenly figure out some super team EG only cares about the big stage so it's all goood
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On October 29 2015 22:15 bagels21 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2015 22:12 Wintex wrote:On October 29 2015 22:10 bagels21 wrote:On October 29 2015 22:09 Wintex wrote:On October 29 2015 22:08 Stancel wrote:On October 29 2015 22:07 Wintex wrote:On October 29 2015 22:06 Pandemona wrote:On October 29 2015 22:06 Wintex wrote: what were the first phase bans from VG? Same 2 both games, Doom and Tusk obviously meh, that is... did they prioritize side or pick? secret had pick priority and they chose fp yeah i think the key to beating them is picking their heroes and banning slardar doom aren't burning or super good at ember? They first picked Ember, and I don't think either play WR that well hmm... i do think NS with his silence might be good vs secret. it's also easier to play with his vision. how about picking slardar and banning ember or wr? yeah I think the answer is to ban ember, pick slardar and then hope W33 doesn't own idk i'd actually ban slardar if i was the enemy of secret
although slardar and ember kinda does similar shit in some sense
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his tier system = 7-8 western teams tier 1 ,then tier 2 starts with best chinese teams and ends with tier 2 chinese teams
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On October 29 2015 22:14 hfglgg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2015 22:09 Azarkon wrote:On October 29 2015 22:08 MrCon wrote:On October 29 2015 22:06 Azarkon wrote: No Chinese team look to be tier 1 at the moment, unless Secret is a tier above tier 1? VG is t1 imo, liquid must be shitting their pants right now if I may say so. edit : ho they have ehome first, well the winner of that will have much work to do My issue with VG has always been that they don't ever win a big tournament even when they make it into the finals. They're sort of the C9 of China and I never thought C9 was tier 1, so. you are aware that of the 6 finals vg participated in within the last 12 months, they won 3 right? lmao :| But if you reduce this to 6 months, it's zero (well 5 months and some, a little less than 6 months)
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On October 29 2015 22:17 Wintex wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2015 22:16 goody153 wrote:On October 29 2015 22:14 Wintex wrote:On October 29 2015 22:12 goody153 wrote:guys help can't hear shit from the interview production value too epic On October 29 2015 22:10 Wintex wrote:On October 29 2015 22:08 goody153 wrote:On October 29 2015 22:07 Kreb wrote:On October 29 2015 22:06 Wintex wrote: what were the first phase bans from VG? Slardar Doom I believe. i think i'd rather ban slardar doom than ember for secret (windrunner can be switchable win lina and sf and other shit that w33ha plys) SF is way easier to kill and the kill potential of lina goes down with items on your own team. WR kills if it's a shackle Yeah but the thing i mean is that it fulfills the same role as what w33ha achieves with WR. SF hits really hard and lina actually pretty strong and similar to WR with the kiting and stuff. ye ye i know. the only thing this does is hype me for the majors. how will ppd break the new secret strategy? it's eg mang eg can lose 2-0 to not today and the next day they suddenly figure out some super team EG only cares about the big stage so it's all goood i know this is kinda a meme but with the record they have sometimes i also wonder if EG actually cares about other tournaments that isn't as big as TI or majors lol
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Anyone know what Chinese pros have been saying? There were some people here yesterday/day before that were watching pro streams and telling us what they said. Especially about how they didn't think Secret was as much of a threat as EG because they said they could counter EE.
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On October 29 2015 22:07 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2015 22:06 rebdomine wrote:On October 29 2015 22:03 goody153 wrote:On October 29 2015 22:02 Gear 3rd wrote:On October 29 2015 22:01 Faruko wrote: 52-34 thats like the total count of LoL heroes killed in worlds
huehuehue I think I love you hey you guys stop dissing on superiormoba  but it's true Show nested quote +On October 29 2015 22:04 Faruko wrote:On October 29 2015 22:03 goody153 wrote:On October 29 2015 22:02 Gear 3rd wrote:On October 29 2015 22:01 Faruko wrote: 52-34 thats like the total count of LoL heroes killed in worlds
huehuehue I think I love you hey you guys stop dissing on superiormoba  its only natural but but yeah i don't really care about LoL lol and i don't find the game really fun to spectate
is an awful game to watch
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On October 29 2015 22:17 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2015 22:15 bagels21 wrote:On October 29 2015 22:12 Wintex wrote:On October 29 2015 22:10 bagels21 wrote:On October 29 2015 22:09 Wintex wrote:On October 29 2015 22:08 Stancel wrote:On October 29 2015 22:07 Wintex wrote:On October 29 2015 22:06 Pandemona wrote:On October 29 2015 22:06 Wintex wrote: what were the first phase bans from VG? Same 2 both games, Doom and Tusk obviously meh, that is... did they prioritize side or pick? secret had pick priority and they chose fp yeah i think the key to beating them is picking their heroes and banning slardar doom aren't burning or super good at ember? They first picked Ember, and I don't think either play WR that well hmm... i do think NS with his silence might be good vs secret. it's also easier to play with his vision. how about picking slardar and banning ember or wr? yeah I think the answer is to ban ember, pick slardar and then hope W33 doesn't own idk i'd actually ban slardar if i was the enemy of secret although slardar and ember kinda does similar shit in some sense i think if they have FP, you don't ban wr, slardar or ember, and pick two of them in your phase.
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On October 29 2015 22:19 Procake wrote: Anyone know what Chinese pros have been saying? There were some people here yesterday/day before that were watching pro streams and telling us what they said. Especially about how they didn't think Secret was as much of a threat as EG because they said they could counter EE. Yeah idk about where the source came from though.
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On October 29 2015 22:21 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2015 22:19 Procake wrote: Anyone know what Chinese pros have been saying? There were some people here yesterday/day before that were watching pro streams and telling us what they said. Especially about how they didn't think Secret was as much of a threat as EG because they said they could counter EE. Yeah idk about where the source came from though.
chuan/xiao8/hyhy (3rd guy usually rotates; they've had a lot of different folks)
I wasn't able to watch the chuan stream today so I don't know if xiao8 was watching this or not (it's usually on his stream)
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On October 29 2015 22:21 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2015 22:19 Procake wrote: Anyone know what Chinese pros have been saying? There were some people here yesterday/day before that were watching pro streams and telling us what they said. Especially about how they didn't think Secret was as much of a threat as EG because they said they could counter EE. Yeah idk about where the source came from though. it was a reddit thread with a translation from chuan's stream iirc
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Azarkon does a good job baiting you guys. :/
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Woohoo 3 finals in a row boys! Next stop 3 tournament wins in a row :D
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When the teams were formed who wouldn't really hold EG as a bigger threat for the Chinese? Secret has a good squad but EG just won TI, recruited Arteezy and as far as I recall they have specifically done very well in crucial games against top Chinese teams all year long, whereas they sometimes drop games to western teams.
The c9 squads after TI4 always did well against western opposition other than Secret and EG but never really dominated all the Chinese teams. Of course they won a lot of the time against some of them but against VG especially I think their record was not particularly good.
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Caught some of it
Chuan said Secret already had the type of aura teams had after winning major championships. And Misery plays like an offlaner that has won championships and not a new player.
Though these were said when Secret was owning the early game in game 2.
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On October 29 2015 22:32 babysimba wrote: Caught some of it
Chuan said Secret already had the type of aura teams had after winning major championships. And Misery plays like an offlaner that has won championships and not a new player.
Though these were said when Secret was owning the early game in game 2.
interesting. They were super impressed with secret yesterday too. Kept talking about how hungry they were and how they were really serious about this tournament
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