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dutchfriese
Profile Joined November 2012
2554 Posts
August 05 2015 23:52 GMT
#3501
I actually like this secret draft now that I'm seeing it in action. It's pretty smart against PL because BKB is the only practical way to deal with secret and bkb on PL sucks.
zachmok
Profile Joined May 2013
Malaysia63 Posts
August 05 2015 23:52 GMT
#3502
secret's way forward is to draft oddly so that all the preparation teams has done on them goes to waste.
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
August 05 2015 23:52 GMT
#3503
On August 06 2015 08:50 Verniy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 08:48 Elyvilon wrote:
this luna cosmetic makes her look emo

worrying about the important things

yeah the black hair doesn't suit her

seriously

why you subject our eyes to this rtz
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Derity
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2952 Posts
August 05 2015 23:52 GMT
#3504
I hope secret stays aggressive, passive gaming does not suit them
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
August 05 2015 23:52 GMT
#3505
Even one lose to this team is sad for Secret.
unkkz
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Norway2196 Posts
August 05 2015 23:52 GMT
#3506
Wait Secret is ahead. Lets wait till PL is 6 slotted, else we might lose going highground...
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
August 05 2015 23:52 GMT
#3507
yeah if support lina outpaces enemy carry things look good. aghs these fools
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
nVme
Profile Joined October 2010
952 Posts
August 05 2015 23:52 GMT
#3508
On August 06 2015 08:47 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 08:46 nVme wrote:
On August 06 2015 08:45 trinxified wrote:
On August 06 2015 08:44 Mafe wrote:
On August 06 2015 08:43 trinxified wrote:
how to even fight PL later? This is the same as last game... IG wins at 45+ mins

TBH if they still dont have a plan how to win this game in time, then they deserve to lose, even I really dont like saying so.


exactly. they needed to win like that last game. didn't happen.

this game is going the same path, in fact even worse because they don't have the lead they had


a luna late game is nuts --> especially pushing

Luna late game is not so nuts when glaives get absorbed by PL army.


it depends, if they get a lead like last game, they have single target lockdown on either sf or pl, luna can clean up + bh track kills
secret can win this game, but i might still sprinkle some on IG --> think odds can hit 15:1
already 8:1 right now live on IG winning
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
August 05 2015 23:52 GMT
#3509
On August 06 2015 08:49 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 08:46 Squat wrote:
On August 06 2015 08:39 TomatoBisque wrote:
On August 06 2015 08:38 Squat wrote:
On August 06 2015 08:35 Animzor wrote:
This is the last game Secret play together, enjoy it I guess. They must have some serious issues in the team like RTZ said in his interview considering how they're playing.

He did? Was unaware of this, but hardly surprising.

He said part of the reason they don't scrim is they're the kind of people where if they spend too much time with someone they grow to dislike each other.

Well, scrimming is kind of important, as has been amply demonstrated today. Not liking your co-workers isn't really a good reason not to work with them. They don't let players skip practice 2 months before Champions' League just because the goalie doesn't want to be around the midfielder too much.

Both MVP teams scrim with each other heavily which may explain Phoenix's surge of success in TI5. Communication and practice are essential in a team game and even in games like StarCraft where collaborating with your teammates increases your individual skill. Sure you can take five of the best individually skilled players, tell them to win tournaments and see them win without much practice, but for a tournament on the scale of TI you can't take that risk.

That's sort of how I feel. Secret right now just seem like a gargantuan waste of talent, due to lack of work ethic, discipline and frankly maturity.

You don't like being around your teammates all day? Too bad, because the other teams are willing to ignore petty shit like that in order to get the practice they need.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Vadrigar
Profile Joined January 2011
Bulgaria2379 Posts
August 05 2015 23:52 GMT
#3510
IG are just letting Secret take the early game so they get overconfident and throw again...
Shergal
Profile Joined May 2014
Argentina1191 Posts
August 05 2015 23:52 GMT
#3511
This is not even as brutal as G1 was for the first 25 minutes. We'll see how Secret fares when they go high ground.

To be fair though, PL is not a hero that can control the flow of a game like AM so early on. And he's way easier to shut down. So they have more margin.
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
August 05 2015 23:52 GMT
#3512
All right, Secret's playing well so far. This is still where their draft is supposed to be advantaged, though, so they're not out of the woods yet. If they don't secure objectives on top of high ground in a reasonable time frame, they're going to lose after all.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
August 05 2015 23:53 GMT
#3513
On August 06 2015 08:52 Shalaiyn wrote:
Midas over Mek?


BH got Arcane and Buckler
~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
August 05 2015 23:53 GMT
#3514
On August 06 2015 08:52 Elyvilon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 08:50 Verniy wrote:
On August 06 2015 08:48 Elyvilon wrote:
this luna cosmetic makes her look emo

worrying about the important things

yeah the black hair doesn't suit her

seriously

why you subject our eyes to this rtz

He was probably listening to Drake when he configured her cosmetics last.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
Nocticate
Profile Joined May 2013
Vatican City State2902 Posts
August 05 2015 23:53 GMT
#3515
On August 06 2015 08:52 Acritter wrote:
All right, Secret's playing well so far. This is still where their draft is supposed to be advantaged, though, so they're not out of the woods yet. If they don't secure objectives on top of high ground in a reasonable time frame, they're going to lose after all.

the good thing is taht luna is pretyt good at high ground
Chairman Mao tells us imperialist Dota is a paper tiger
Sif_
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil3106 Posts
August 05 2015 23:53 GMT
#3516
midas clock, what the hell...
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-05 23:53:58
August 05 2015 23:53 GMT
#3517
On August 06 2015 08:52 Elyvilon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 08:50 Verniy wrote:
On August 06 2015 08:48 Elyvilon wrote:
this luna cosmetic makes her look emo

worrying about the important things

yeah the black hair doesn't suit her

seriously

why you subject our eyes to this rtz


there are actually styles for that set, to change the hair color to white or blue
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
August 05 2015 23:53 GMT
#3518
ok this game is surely over
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-05 23:54:22
August 05 2015 23:54 GMT
#3519
If secret can't end this game then i don't even know
edit: midas?????????
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
August 05 2015 23:54 GMT
#3520
On August 06 2015 08:53 Sif_ wrote:
midas clock, what the hell...


yeah these items are causing them
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