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On June 06 2014 03:18 bagels21 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2014 03:16 DoctorHeckle wrote:
I think if EG loses to VG and DK, the west is in big big big big trouble in this TI. Alliance? Empire? C9? I'm fairly sure at least 3 of the top 8 will be western teams. It's likely that the West won't win, but last year's decline for the Chinese teams was an aberration
I dont think many people realise this but last year it was 4 western teams and 4 eastern teams who placed top 8 at TI3.
The only real surprise was not a Chinese team in the top 3, but they placed 4, 5 and 6. It's alot closer than what people said "Western domination" lol. But yeah Alliance was the outlier beating pretty much everyone there.
This year, it really looks like the Western teams are on the backfoot.
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On June 06 2014 03:20 Diavlo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2014 03:15 lolfail9001 wrote:On June 06 2014 03:15 BurningSera wrote:
what is this game lol
navi doesnt look good for this year, at all. Standard suck into get to TI finals strat? Yeah they really sucked last year before TI3, only winning 3 tournaments the month before...
Also the competition was a lot lower. Now everyone of DK, IG, LGD, VG, NB can beat every West team easily imo. Perhaps only Alliance can resist, but only resist into lose, like in WPC. I wouldn't be surprised the TOP 5 is exactly those 5 teams.
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On June 06 2014 03:20 MrCon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2014 03:19 Heyoka wrote:
I think this is finally the year when everyone says "dont worry navi always makes the finals even though they were bad before!" where they legit finish out of top 5 or so. Yep that's my take on this too.
I do agree. And it's perfectly fine. It's how things go.
The one thing I don't like about their playstyle at the moment is that they are always forced to react. Na'Vi always brought aggression to the enemy team but at some point they started to go for a standard meta draft and started waiting for the opponent to bring the fight.
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On June 06 2014 03:19 GaribaldiSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2014 03:16 DoctorHeckle wrote:
I think if EG loses to VG and DK, the west is in big big big big trouble in this TI. Alliance >>> VG, we watched in WPC
It was closest series of whole WPC, your >>> is very inappropriate
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On June 06 2014 03:22 Rybka wrote:
Teams should respect-ban Sylar's weaver every draft IMHO. Such a beast.
Sylar could have been on a dozen other heroes this game. When your team is making this much room for you with even a rooftrellan to buff up your 1 v prophet it really isn't one particular hero that's the problem.
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On June 06 2014 03:22 Orome wrote:
Loads of hiccups so far, but I don't mind much. They really need to get some pros on the casting desk though. Someone from Fnatic/NAR/EG, all of them aren't playing til later.
none of the eg guys would even talk to godz after navi vs vg, what makes you think they want to cast lol? its not like bts can force them to.
edit: just as i say that we're gonna get some chinese translated content!
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Northern Ireland22208 Posts
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When VG lost to DK, they just stayed in their room and studied the replay. Navi on the other hand...
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On June 06 2014 03:21 TomatoBisque wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2014 03:18 bagels21 wrote:On June 06 2014 03:16 DoctorHeckle wrote:
I think if EG loses to VG and DK, the west is in big big big big trouble in this TI. Alliance? Empire? C9? I'm fairly sure at least 3 of the top 8 will be western teams. It's likely that the West won't win, but last year's decline for the Chinese teams was an aberration C9 has done terrible against chinese teams other than MLG.
Yeah they were pretty crappy at WPC this time around(though they did play a close series against the eventual winners, iG) During G-League they beat VG and took a match off of DK. I wouldn't say they're terrible, they're just about average. I think they have enough quality to make it to 7/8th.
I think the Chinese teams might sweep the top 4(perhaps Na'Vi does some magical LB run again). But 5-8 is definitely probable for the West. Honestly besides DK/NB, I don't think any Chinese teams truly outclass the best in the West
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On June 06 2014 03:22 Rybka wrote:
Teams should respect-ban Sylar's weaver every draft IMHO. Such a beast.
You could give Sylar Rubick and he'd turn him into a hard carry. Seriously though I don't think there's a carry hero on which he isn't a complete beast.
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On June 06 2014 03:26 duckmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2014 03:22 Rybka wrote:
Teams should respect-ban Sylar's weaver every draft IMHO. Such a beast. You could give Sylar Rubick and he'd turn him into a hard carry. Seriously though I don't think there's a carry hero on which he isn't a complete beast.
His Naga and CK are very unimpressive
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On June 06 2014 03:23 Omigawa wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2014 03:22 Orome wrote:
Loads of hiccups so far, but I don't mind much. They really need to get some pros on the casting desk though. Someone from Fnatic/NAR/EG, all of them aren't playing til later. none of the eg guys would even talk to godz after navi vs vg, what makes you think they want to cast lol? its not like bts can force them to. edit: just as i say that we're gonna get some chinese translated content!
That was 2 EG players + Fear. You have an appartment full of pros. Ask nicely, make it fun. I'm sure someone will be willing to help out (like Fy just now).
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On June 06 2014 03:26 duckmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2014 03:22 Rybka wrote:
Teams should respect-ban Sylar's weaver every draft IMHO. Such a beast. You could give Sylar Rubick and he'd turn him into a hard carry. Seriously though I don't think there's a carry hero on which he isn't a complete beast.
I agree, just saying his weaver is especially brutal.
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On June 06 2014 03:22 MrCon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2014 03:20 Diavlo wrote:On June 06 2014 03:15 lolfail9001 wrote:On June 06 2014 03:15 BurningSera wrote:
what is this game lol
navi doesnt look good for this year, at all. Standard suck into get to TI finals strat? Yeah they really sucked last year before TI3, only winning 3 tournaments the month before... Also the competition was a lot lower. Now everyone of DK, IG, LGD, VG, NB can beat every West team easily imo. Perhaps only Alliance can resist, but only resist into lose, like in WPC. I wouldn't be surprised the TOP 5 is exactly those 5 teams.
I don't really think it's fair to say that. Alliance looked definitely in the same league as that chinese top 5 where everybody beats everybody. And it's not like Alliance has been dominating the west like last year, Empire and EG seem to be at least as good.
I agree that chinese teams look better but they kinda did too last year before getting rolled by Alliance at G League.
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Love how everyone uses Na'Vi as some benchmark for the entirety of the Western scene...
Even assuming that they'll actually make the finals of TI4, that doesn't change the fact that they're mediocre in every other during the lead-up.
Don't forget that Alliance placed 4th at WPC, and they haven't made any finals lately either.
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On June 06 2014 03:22 MrCon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2014 03:20 Diavlo wrote:On June 06 2014 03:15 lolfail9001 wrote:On June 06 2014 03:15 BurningSera wrote:
what is this game lol
navi doesnt look good for this year, at all. Standard suck into get to TI finals strat? Yeah they really sucked last year before TI3, only winning 3 tournaments the month before... Also the competition was a lot lower. Now everyone of DK, IG, LGD, VG, NB can beat every West team easily imo. Perhaps only Alliance can resist, but only resist into lose, like in WPC. I wouldn't be surprised the TOP 5 is exactly those 5 teams.
Between jetlag, illness from travel, high stakes, pressure, secret strats, bracket randomness I doubt all Chinese teams resist to this so I expect at least one foreigner team to make it into the top4.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Would it bother any of you if the east did really well this year?
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