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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
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Staboteur
Canada1873 Posts
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njt7
Sweden769 Posts
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On April 14 2014 05:36 Staboteur wrote: I'm trying to learn reasonably efficient woods bat / enigma builds, just to expand my hero pool. Are there any specialists in either of these heroes that I can watch reps of? Noone is playing pure forest Batrider in competitive scene, but you can follow guys like Mag or bone7, they seem to live in jungle at some point. For Enigma, Fly from Fnatic is probably best Enigma in western scene, Puppey plays Enigma often as well, can't recall other right now. | ||
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OuchyDathurts
United States4588 Posts
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Staboteur
Canada1873 Posts
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klup
France612 Posts
I was wondering something about jungle. Is there any group of creep to avoid on the early jungle lvl like 1-3? For example I found that satyre and centaurs were hard to farm with Wraith King on the first level. Is there some kind of creep to focus and ignore? (I am a total newb to dota) | ||
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Belisarius
Australia6233 Posts
On April 14 2014 21:02 klup wrote: Hi guys, I was wondering something about jungle. Is there any group of creep to avoid on the early jungle lvl like 1-3? For example I found that satyre and centaurs were hard to farm with Wraith King on the first level. Is there some kind of creep to focus and ignore? (I am a total newb to dota) It depends enormously on your hero. I can't tell if you know this based on your question, but camps in dota have four classes. In order of decreasing difficulty, each side's jungle has: one ancient camp, two hard camps, two medium camps and one small camp. The kinds of creeps which spawn in each class are different. I won't detail exactly where the camps are and what spawns in them, but you can find it with a few seconds on google/dotawiki. It's important to learn if you don't know already. Harder camps spawn bigger creeps which are (unsurprisingly) more difficult for most heroes to kill, but also give more gold/xp. As a very general rule of thumb, you want to clear the highest tier of camps that your hero can do safely. The individual creeps which spawn within a camp also vary in difficulty; the satyr medium spawn is weaker than many small camp spawns, while the centaur medium spawn can be tougher than some hards. You really just have to learn them. In any given camp, you should usually try to kill the biggest creep first, as most of these provide buffs to the others while alive. In terms of what you can do safely, it really does depend on your hero. Manfight junglers like WK/LS/etc generally want to avoid the hard camps until they have a few levels under their belts. Most minion junglers (Chen, Ench, Enigma, Prophet) can start with the hard camps from level 1 Aoe junglers (bat, DS etc) usually want to clear the smaller camps for levels while stacking the hard camps, and then use their spells to clear the stack for an infusion of xp/gold We can give you better info if you give us a hero and a situation that you really want to focus on. However, if that hero is Wraith King, hopefully a lot of us are going to tell you that WK is a terrible, slow jungler and should not be played there. | ||
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
http://imgur.com/a/511Hz Basically cut the tree indicated and move into the spot showing, so that only one creep can hit you at a time. If you're doing this, then you will want to avoid the Troll camp as they can hit you anyway. | ||
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On April 14 2014 21:02 klup wrote: Hi guys, I was wondering something about jungle. Is there any group of creep to avoid on the early jungle lvl like 1-3? For example I found that satyre and centaurs were hard to farm with Wraith King on the first level. Is there some kind of creep to focus and ignore? (I am a total newb to dota) There is nothing worse than ursas. So, find little camps, find golems, pray for RNG Gods and everything will be ok. One day you will find 3 wildkins on big camps, next day there will be only ursas and horses. | ||
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klup
France612 Posts
Which other melee carry is good jungler in your opinion? People said Wraith King is terrible jungler but I see him very often in newbie pubs. | ||
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On April 14 2014 22:26 klup wrote: Thanks for the help! I will try to not suck that much now in jungle with Wraith King. Which other melee carry is good jungler in your opinion? People said Wraith King is terrible jungler but I see him very often in newbie pubs. Doom is legit, but you're not going carry build every game. Axe can carry games if his team knows what to do as well. Lifestealer, Centaur Warrunner, i saw even Terrorblade jungle and Ursa as well. But i had seen very little of latter guys for last 4-5 months. In forest i mean. Doom on the other hand is veeeery common. And Lycan ofc. | ||
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BobMcJohnson
France2916 Posts
On April 14 2014 22:26 klup wrote: Thanks for the help! I will try to not suck that much now in jungle with Wraith King. Which other melee carry is good jungler in your opinion? People said Wraith King is terrible jungler but I see him very often in newbie pubs. Lycan, check out Kwark's guide. | ||
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Logo
United States7542 Posts
On April 14 2014 23:11 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: Doom is legit, but you're not going carry build every game. Axe can carry games if his team knows what to do as well. Lifestealer, Centaur Warrunner, i saw even Terrorblade jungle and Ursa as well. But i had seen very little of latter guys for last 4-5 months. In forest i mean. Doom on the other hand is veeeery common. And Lycan ofc. Legion Commander? What's her 6.80 jungling speed like now? | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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BoZiffer
United States1841 Posts
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On April 15 2014 06:31 BoZiffer wrote: What are the best solo queue heroes? http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Portal:Heroes Preeeetty much all of them. I'm really not kidding. Pick heroes you like and are good with. If you must avoid some heroes, avoid the ones that rely on your team "making space" etc, or pushing in a coordinated manner. | ||
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On April 15 2014 06:16 Sn0_Man wrote: Its pretty slow afaik. Lifestealer-tier I think? Ye, i guess. A bit more usage but as camps clearing, somewhere like that. | ||
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hooahah
3752 Posts
I need Clockwork help - I usually have a pretty good earlygame (because the hero rapes) and then I buy a blademail and suddenly the game turns really sour and I'm worthless as a hero. My game sample isn't that big but I guess it's because when I get the blademail is when the enemy team starts 5manning. Clock is really flexible with his build but appearently blademail just doesn't cut it. I usually go Treads, casual Sobi mask, stick -> blademail -> aghs. Thoughts, opinions etc | ||
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