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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-01 20:43:50
April 01 2014 19:30 GMT
#16421
On April 02 2014 02:26 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2014 01:21 llIH wrote:
I play offlane.
Are there any good advice to rank up in solo queue?


Phoenix.
Then more Phoenix.
....
And more.
.
Repeat.


I'd say in general don't play heroes who you can only solo offlane; at least in my experience you'll end up sharing the offlane pretty often. Well if you're really confident your team is on board with you having solo offlane then that's fine.

Phoenix being the one of the best example right now of being flexible in a way where if you can play her solo offlane you can probably handle the other lanes as well. Some other heroes play much differently outside of solo offlane.
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govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-01 20:39:22
April 01 2014 20:39 GMT
#16422
nyx doesnt need much farm, get manaboots or naked boot+blink and go feast on hero's.
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
April 01 2014 22:38 GMT
#16423
Eat sleep phoenix repeat
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
April 01 2014 23:15 GMT
#16424
On April 01 2014 04:03 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2014 02:56 OtomPotom wrote:
How come windrunner (still haven't come to terms with wind ranger) isn't used in competitive anymore?


Out of fashion. Shes still as strong as ever, she just doesn't fit the metagame atm.

Not really. She had a sub 40% winrate during a period where she was picked frequently, then eventually dropped off
Dodge arrows
LeeDawg
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1306 Posts
April 02 2014 04:42 GMT
#16425
If you build a refresher on DP, and activate it immediately after ulting, do you get double the spirits?
:-)
Xxazn4lyfe51xX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States976 Posts
April 02 2014 04:45 GMT
#16426
No. Unfortunately it doesn't work like that. Can be an option though to have spirits up immediately after it ends though in late game do or die push situations.
LeeDawg
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1306 Posts
April 02 2014 04:58 GMT
#16427
On April 02 2014 13:45 Xxazn4lyfe51xX wrote:
No. Unfortunately it doesn't work like that. Can be an option though to have spirits up immediately after it ends though in late game do or die push situations.


LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAME
:-)
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
April 02 2014 05:49 GMT
#16428
Go Aghs-Refresher Razor if you want a double building wrecking ulti
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8916 Posts
April 02 2014 08:39 GMT
#16429
aghs refresher wrecks everything, not just buildings
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
April 02 2014 10:15 GMT
#16430
Yes, but you don't have time to appreciate it against heroes because they die too fast.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
April 02 2014 11:54 GMT
#16431
On April 02 2014 08:15 TheSubtleArt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2014 04:03 Excludos wrote:
On April 01 2014 02:56 OtomPotom wrote:
How come windrunner (still haven't come to terms with wind ranger) isn't used in competitive anymore?


Out of fashion. Shes still as strong as ever, she just doesn't fit the metagame atm.

Not really. She had a sub 40% winrate during a period where she was picked frequently, then eventually dropped off


If hero has low winrate it doesn't mean that he/she is weak.
And I don't even remember when was last change for Windrunner so it means that hero is very legit.

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Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-02 12:07:57
April 02 2014 12:05 GMT
#16432
On April 02 2014 20:54 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2014 08:15 TheSubtleArt wrote:
On April 01 2014 04:03 Excludos wrote:
On April 01 2014 02:56 OtomPotom wrote:
How come windrunner (still haven't come to terms with wind ranger) isn't used in competitive anymore?


Out of fashion. Shes still as strong as ever, she just doesn't fit the metagame atm.

Not really. She had a sub 40% winrate during a period where she was picked frequently, then eventually dropped off


If hero has low winrate it doesn't mean that he/she is weak.
And I don't even remember when was last change for Windrunner so it means that hero is very legit.


Well the hero is pretty hit-or-miss. If you could guarantee latched shackles and hit powershots every fight she'd be a top support, but its just a bit too unreliable. When you compared to something like, say, a vengeful spirit or shadow shaman, they will alwyas hit their CC and do reliable nuke damage while providing additional utility (swap, minus armor, serpent wards). WR just doesnt do anything if you dont get the proper shackles.

I really think she needs a reworked ulti. Just the fact that people dont pick it up until 13 should put a huge NEEDS CHANGE sign on it for Valve.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-02 13:14:41
April 02 2014 13:12 GMT
#16433
On April 02 2014 21:05 Kreb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2014 20:54 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On April 02 2014 08:15 TheSubtleArt wrote:
On April 01 2014 04:03 Excludos wrote:
On April 01 2014 02:56 OtomPotom wrote:
How come windrunner (still haven't come to terms with wind ranger) isn't used in competitive anymore?


Out of fashion. Shes still as strong as ever, she just doesn't fit the metagame atm.

Not really. She had a sub 40% winrate during a period where she was picked frequently, then eventually dropped off


If hero has low winrate it doesn't mean that he/she is weak.
And I don't even remember when was last change for Windrunner so it means that hero is very legit.


Well the hero is pretty hit-or-miss. If you could guarantee latched shackles and hit powershots every fight she'd be a top support, but its just a bit too unreliable. When you compared to something like, say, a vengeful spirit or shadow shaman, they will alwyas hit their CC and do reliable nuke damage while providing additional utility (swap, minus armor, serpent wards). WR just doesnt do anything if you dont get the proper shackles.

I really think she needs a reworked ulti. Just the fact that people dont pick it up until 13 should put a huge NEEDS CHANGE sign on it for Valve.


I have no idea, how many games did i win/lose because of 135 degrees shackleshots from downtown.

And she's way better at sololanes imo than supporting because she needs fast levels, at least in pubs.
Ult is legit if you play #1 position.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-02 14:18:44
April 02 2014 14:13 GMT
#16434
I was curious about this as well. It always seemed to me it just came down to how useful a shackle is in a teamfight. With heroes getting more and more even farm (multicore and all that) and faster items shackle faces more opposition in the form of Bkbs and less impact if other heroes can step up with items and still take the fight. Uh I'm sure 2 hero shackles are still enough to win a teamfight, but it always seemed like you could really only count on a 1 person shackle at best. So it just seemed like shackle was better tuned against a style that's not played as much anymore.

Also with force staff being nerfed it seems like that would negatively impact WR's ability to position for shackles.
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Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
April 02 2014 14:48 GMT
#16435
Need some knowledge bomb here:

About quelling blade,
is it possible to retain %32 bonus with ranged troll by acquiring the item when in melee form?
Is deso is work with qb? (both bonuses applied?)


“Are you with the Cartel? Because you’re definitely an Angel.”
Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
April 02 2014 14:51 GMT
#16436
Another one: lets say Void has 950/1000 health and we use a 500 dmg(after %25 reduction) nuke on him. If he backtracks the nuke, considering BT is a pre-heal trigger, hp at the end is 550/1000?
“Are you with the Cartel? Because you’re definitely an Angel.”
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-02 14:55:59
April 02 2014 14:53 GMT
#16437
On April 02 2014 23:51 Laserist wrote:
Another one: lets say Void has 950/1000 health and we use a 500 dmg(after %25 reduction) nuke on him. If he backtracks the nuke, considering BT is a pre-heal trigger, hp at the end is 550/1000?


If Void backtracks, he backtracks everything.
0 damage, stun/slow/disable will go through though.

On April 02 2014 23:48 Laserist wrote:
Need some knowledge bomb here:

About quelling blade,
is it possible to retain %32 bonus with ranged troll by acquiring the item when in melee form?
Is deso is work with qb? (both bonuses applied?)




Quelling blade works with Troll as +32/12%, considering form.
Ye, qb isn't a buff placer, because of it they work both on creeps.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
April 02 2014 14:55 GMT
#16438
On April 02 2014 23:53 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2014 23:51 Laserist wrote:
Another one: lets say Void has 950/1000 health and we use a 500 dmg(after %25 reduction) nuke on him. If he backtracks the nuke, considering BT is a pre-heal trigger, hp at the end is 550/1000?


If Void backtracks, he backtracks everything.
0 damage, stun/slow/disable will go through though.


Void backtrack doesn't work for the first instance of damage when at %100 health. So I assume it can pre-heal a maximum of missing health.
“Are you with the Cartel? Because you’re definitely an Angel.”
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-02 14:58:09
April 02 2014 14:56 GMT
#16439
On April 02 2014 23:48 Laserist wrote:
Need some knowledge bomb here:

About quelling blade,
is it possible to retain %32 bonus with ranged troll by acquiring the item when in melee form?

No. It may be possible to bug it into giving you the 32% on a given ranged attack by form switching since it automatically applies different effects to ranged and melee attacks. It isn't possible to permanently bug it or w/e.
On April 02 2014 23:48 Laserist wrote:
Is deso is work with qb? (both bonuses applied?)

Deso works with QB though. QB isn't a unique attack modifier or w/e.

In dota 2, backtrack is actually just damage avoidance its not a triggered heal or w/e. You don't take any damage when you backtrack, period
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oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
April 02 2014 14:58 GMT
#16440
On April 02 2014 23:55 Laserist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2014 23:53 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On April 02 2014 23:51 Laserist wrote:
Another one: lets say Void has 950/1000 health and we use a 500 dmg(after %25 reduction) nuke on him. If he backtracks the nuke, considering BT is a pre-heal trigger, hp at the end is 550/1000?


If Void backtracks, he backtracks everything.
0 damage, stun/slow/disable will go through though.


Void backtrack doesn't work for the first instance of damage when at %100 health. So I assume it can pre-heal a maximum of missing health.


I'm just quoting WIki right now.

Backtrack will not evade the secondary effects of enemy spells and attacks (such as stuns or slows).

Any damage type can be dodged except HP Removal.

So, if you have 90% health and Lina ults you, then you backtrack, you're still at 90%+amount of hp which you regened while animation was appearing.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
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