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Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8277 Posts
March 28 2014 20:35 GMT
#16361
On March 29 2014 04:59 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2014 04:38 eXeYukon wrote:
I'm a new player what mid champions should I play?


Never say "champions" in dota-threads, there are "heroes".
Dunno, Queen of Pain, Pugna or Zeus are pretty ez. Core mids are QoP, Puck, Storm Spirit, SF, Invoker and if you want, Pudge and Batrider. Ember Spirit also is legit to master.
Ah, and fucking Destroyer, how dare i forgot. Outworld Devourer.

Show nested quote +
On March 29 2014 04:33 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:
So I have been playing with Lycan and love playing the hero right now he can do so much in a game. My question when soloing rosh do you guys get Medallion first or just go with +4 wolves and vlads? I have been waiting for medallion but people on my team kept telling me to do it before but I think it would be pretty close. What are your strats?


Doesn't matter, i don't like medallion at all for example on Lycan and don't value Roshan as much as Ursa values it for example. Focus on towers, if towers are gone, then yep, Roshan choice is legit. But i play only lane Lycan, i assume that jungler is basing on Roshan as high experience boost.

But afaik, you go vladmirs-medallion, even skipping pt sometimes and dive pit in smoke or asking someone to check the vision.


You forgot the easiest pubstomp midhero in the game: Viper
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-28 21:01:58
March 28 2014 20:59 GMT
#16362
On March 29 2014 05:35 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2014 04:59 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On March 29 2014 04:38 eXeYukon wrote:
I'm a new player what mid champions should I play?


Never say "champions" in dota-threads, there are "heroes".
Dunno, Queen of Pain, Pugna or Zeus are pretty ez. Core mids are QoP, Puck, Storm Spirit, SF, Invoker and if you want, Pudge and Batrider. Ember Spirit also is legit to master.
Ah, and fucking Destroyer, how dare i forgot. Outworld Devourer.

On March 29 2014 04:33 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:
So I have been playing with Lycan and love playing the hero right now he can do so much in a game. My question when soloing rosh do you guys get Medallion first or just go with +4 wolves and vlads? I have been waiting for medallion but people on my team kept telling me to do it before but I think it would be pretty close. What are your strats?


Doesn't matter, i don't like medallion at all for example on Lycan and don't value Roshan as much as Ursa values it for example. Focus on towers, if towers are gone, then yep, Roshan choice is legit. But i play only lane Lycan, i assume that jungler is basing on Roshan as high experience boost.

But afaik, you go vladmirs-medallion, even skipping pt sometimes and dive pit in smoke or asking someone to check the vision.


You forgot the easiest pubstomp midhero in the game: Viper


And then you pick Razor and Viper is getting rolled in his grave.
Even tho, i agree :D
Fucking AIDS-dispenser, i hate him more than OD and Furion sometimes.

On March 29 2014 05:59 Sn0_Man wrote:
Veno is the aids dispenser tho


Venomancer doesn't damage you when you attack him and he runs.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 28 2014 20:59 GMT
#16363
Veno is the aids dispenser tho
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solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
March 28 2014 22:22 GMT
#16364
veno mid is so much fun its ridiculous
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
March 29 2014 00:57 GMT
#16365
On March 29 2014 04:33 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:
So I have been playing with Lycan and love playing the hero right now he can do so much in a game. My question when soloing rosh do you guys get Medallion first or just go with +4 wolves and vlads? I have been waiting for medallion but people on my team kept telling me to do it before but I think it would be pretty close. What are your strats?

No medallion = long time to kill rosh. If you see an opportunity to do rosh when you only have vlads (entire enemy team is pushing top tower or something), go for it. If you're scared people are gonna find you, then you want medallion to kill rosh as fast as possible.
:)
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
March 29 2014 01:17 GMT
#16366
So which skills keep their long cast time when stolen by Rubick? So far I can only think of Requiem and teleport.
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Xxazn4lyfe51xX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States976 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-29 01:42:25
March 29 2014 01:34 GMT
#16367
On March 29 2014 10:17 ahswtini wrote:
So which skills keep their long cast time when stolen by Rubick? So far I can only think of Requiem and teleport.


Rubick's cast time is always 0.1. There are spells however that have a cast delay which is actually separate from the spell's cast time. Requiem, teleport, assassinate, poof and netherstrike. Rubick will still have the cast delay from all these spells.

Edit: Should also note that these spells take the user's cast time + the cast delay to execute. Since Rubick's cast time of 0.1 is often less than that of the spell's original owner, Rubick often does still cast these spells faster than the original user does. It's just that he cannot ignore the cast delay on each of these spells.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
March 29 2014 01:41 GMT
#16368
Oh I see, didn't realise there was a distinction between the two
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Hagen0
Profile Joined June 2013
Germany765 Posts
March 29 2014 02:15 GMT
#16369
Is my assumption that Culling Blade kills through Shallow Grave correct?
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
March 29 2014 02:17 GMT
#16370
Yes
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
March 29 2014 09:04 GMT
#16371
Guys, does anyone have a link to a Dota 2 Pro Highlight Game where the Dire team was hiding the woods near the Tier 1 Radiant Tower (which was gone btw) and then disruptor casts his third skill and ulti and gets everyone from the radiant inside and then the dire proceeds to perfectly wipe the radiant?

I've been looking around for it but I can't find it.
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
March 29 2014 17:17 GMT
#16372
On March 29 2014 10:34 Xxazn4lyfe51xX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2014 10:17 ahswtini wrote:
So which skills keep their long cast time when stolen by Rubick? So far I can only think of Requiem and teleport.


Rubick's cast time is always 0.1. There are spells however that have a cast delay which is actually separate from the spell's cast time. Requiem, teleport, assassinate, poof and netherstrike. Rubick will still have the cast delay from all these spells.

Edit: Should also note that these spells take the user's cast time + the cast delay to execute. Since Rubick's cast time of 0.1 is often less than that of the spell's original owner, Rubick often does still cast these spells faster than the original user does. It's just that he cannot ignore the cast delay on each of these spells.

There are actually spells that are *supposed* to use the original user's cast time and not Rubick's (e.g. all Blinks are supposed to do this), but they are bugged in DotA 2 to use Rubick's incorrectly. So for DotA 2, what you said is correct.
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Fhiz
Profile Joined October 2013
361 Posts
March 29 2014 23:13 GMT
#16373
Hi i'm not sure if this belongs here but;

What are some good late/mid game items for naga siren carry? (Specifically solo mid carry).

Also for which roles should i get midas and when is the appropriate time to? Like I don't often see solo mid players get a quick midas, more so off lane carrys? I could be wrong but either way my question stands.
girls generation make u feel da heat
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34504 Posts
March 29 2014 23:32 GMT
#16374
On March 30 2014 08:13 Fhiz wrote:
Hi i'm not sure if this belongs here but;

What are some good late/mid game items for naga siren carry? (Specifically solo mid carry).

Also for which roles should i get midas and when is the appropriate time to? Like I don't often see solo mid players get a quick midas, more so off lane carrys? I could be wrong but either way my question stands.

Radiance, Boots of Travel, Manta, Diffusal, Heart, Butterfly, Skadi, Daedalus.
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TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
March 29 2014 23:47 GMT
#16375
On March 30 2014 08:32 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2014 08:13 Fhiz wrote:
Hi i'm not sure if this belongs here but;

What are some good late/mid game items for naga siren carry? (Specifically solo mid carry).

Also for which roles should i get midas and when is the appropriate time to? Like I don't often see solo mid players get a quick midas, more so off lane carrys? I could be wrong but either way my question stands.

Radiance, Boots of Travel, Manta, Diffusal, Heart, Butterfly, Skadi, Daedalus.

Linkens is situationally good too
Dodge arrows
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
March 30 2014 05:30 GMT
#16376
why isn't ogre mage used?
I've been playing cd/cm for a few weeks; and ogre mage never seems to be used for anything.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
Staboteur
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada1873 Posts
March 30 2014 05:48 GMT
#16377
I see him somewhat frequently as the third support of a trilane, but he doesn't really fit anywhere else in the game, as far as I can see. It isn't really because he's a weak hero, but he is pretty hard to fit in a lane.
I'm actually Fleetfeet D:
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12136 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-30 07:00:34
March 30 2014 06:57 GMT
#16378
Ogre is a melee support. The only melee support that are being played are either team fight aoe (ES/SK) or extreme support (roof/abaddon). Ogre falls into the same slot as CM/Lina but is melee. Or the same slot as beastmaster, but don't have good farming or anti bkb ulti.

I think one way to make him viable would be that the slow hits through BKB after ulti is skilled. A large aoe slow with short cooldown that goes through BKB wouldn't break him in pubs but would make him good in CMs.
EpiK
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5757 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-30 07:15:47
March 30 2014 07:10 GMT
#16379
On March 29 2014 04:38 eXeYukon wrote:
I'm a new player what mid champions should I play?

if you're new and don't want to be flamed, don't play mid

On March 30 2014 14:30 zlefin wrote:
why isn't ogre mage used?
I've been playing cd/cm for a few weeks; and ogre mage never seems to be used for anything.

he's not bad but there are better supports
Staboteur
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada1873 Posts
March 30 2014 08:20 GMT
#16380
I dunno if he's meant to be "viable". His sound effect is a slot machine for a reason, he isn't around to be a reliable and consistent hero.
I'm actually Fleetfeet D:
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