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Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8277 Posts
March 13 2014 02:45 GMT
#16041
On March 13 2014 11:18 BlindKill wrote:
I find tuskar lacking killing power despite being a ganker-tier hero. No?

He is a bit underwhelming these days. I think a good buff to the snowball speed would do wonders.
sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
March 13 2014 03:10 GMT
#16042
On March 13 2014 08:50 Scorch wrote:
I've been on a huge losing streak over the last couple of days. I've already lost almost 400 MMR from where I had always been ever since Solo Ranked was introduced, and I can't seem to win any more. However, I don't feel it's because I play worse than before. In fact, I'm quite happy with my performance as I'm almost always one of the best players in the game. Is there a second, hidden rating in addition to MMR that would give me particularly weak teammates in order to balance my higher hidden skill rating? Or have I just gotten worse or unlucky?


Ever played poker?

You probably were running well prior and now you're running bad. Sometimes though, and this is what I realised, was once I started winning I started taking bigger risks and choosing heroes I wanted to play rather than what the team needed. Once I went back to my old mindset I started winning again, although it didn't take losing 400 MMR more like 100.
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synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
March 13 2014 05:05 GMT
#16043
On March 13 2014 11:18 BlindKill wrote:
I find tuskar lacking killing power despite being a ganker-tier hero. No?

the 3x/4x -> 3.5x change in 6.80 made him a lot weaker :T
:)
tauon
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Australia1278 Posts
March 13 2014 06:12 GMT
#16044
On March 13 2014 11:45 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2014 11:18 BlindKill wrote:
I find tuskar lacking killing power despite being a ganker-tier hero. No?

He is a bit underwhelming these days. I think a good buff to the snowball speed would do wonders.

When he was first released, the faster snowball speed made him a bit OP.
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Xxazn4lyfe51xX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States976 Posts
March 13 2014 08:48 GMT
#16045
What was it, like the combined speed of all units in the snowball or something ridiculous? I forget.
ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
March 13 2014 09:22 GMT
#16046
Snowball movement speed per extra hero reduced from 100% to 50% in 6.71
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
March 13 2014 09:25 GMT
#16047
On March 13 2014 08:50 Scorch wrote:
I've been on a huge losing streak over the last couple of days. I've already lost almost 400 MMR from where I had always been ever since Solo Ranked was introduced, and I can't seem to win any more. However, I don't feel it's because I play worse than before. In fact, I'm quite happy with my performance as I'm almost always one of the best players in the game. Is there a second, hidden rating in addition to MMR that would give me particularly weak teammates in order to balance my higher hidden skill rating? Or have I just gotten worse or unlucky?

This is like the story of one of my friends, he started off at like 4.2k mmr and he was playing around there for a while hovering there and than he went a huge losing streak and dropped to 4k and he tried to climb back up picking his best hero but he just seemed to keep losing more games than he won and he dropped to 3.8 and he was super pissed and laddered everyday trying to get back to 4k, i think he needs a break and try again at it after a while.
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-13 14:54:09
March 13 2014 10:53 GMT
#16048
On March 13 2014 11:18 BlindKill wrote:
I find tuskar lacking killing power despite being a ganker-tier hero. No?


Yes, because of that he solely played as supportish roles in competitive lately. Problem is he needs levels and items so badly. I think he becomes a threat if he outfarms/outlevels enemy heroes especially supports. There are better gankers and/or offlaners to do the same job.

I enjoy playing him but even in pubs it is hard to fit him into a proper line-up. He can use a buff like make snowball point target or something to joint spells(viable in hard lane at least) or reduce the cooldown/manacosts. He is underwhelming right now.
“Are you with the Cartel? Because you’re definitely an Angel.”
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
March 13 2014 11:45 GMT
#16049
Snowball is point target
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
March 13 2014 14:53 GMT
#16050
On March 13 2014 20:45 solidbebe wrote:
Snowball is point target


I mean target ground or target area or something. Also you can only target enemies and naturals. He needs something to be more viable.
“Are you with the Cartel? Because you’re definitely an Angel.”
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
March 13 2014 15:58 GMT
#16051
Tuskar is pretty viable, you just need to use it well.
If you're going support Tuskar, max sigil, it's ridiculously op in pushing strats or teamfighting on early levels.

If you're going ham Tuskar, just hit shards and hit R, chance that target won't die after it if you're not 1v5 it miserable.
Either way, if they made snowball growth a bit faster i guess it could move Tuskar to be more competitive but he's decent nowdays already.
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Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8277 Posts
March 13 2014 17:34 GMT
#16052
On March 13 2014 15:12 tauon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2014 11:45 Excludos wrote:
On March 13 2014 11:18 BlindKill wrote:
I find tuskar lacking killing power despite being a ganker-tier hero. No?

He is a bit underwhelming these days. I think a good buff to the snowball speed would do wonders.

When he was first released, the faster snowball speed made him a bit OP.


Hmm yeah, I can see the thin line. The problem is that for snowball to be viable, it really needs to move fast as you'll suddenly be stuck in one place with every hero you grabbed with you. And in most teamfights, thats not where you want your heroes to be: stuck together in a small area. If its faster, its possible to get in and grab a target before the enemy can react (for an example, it would be possible to gank someone in lane. Instead of snowballing after them, end up under their tower because its too slow, and have 3 enemy heroes port on top of you before the snowball even finishes).

I honestly think a faster, but static speed is the way to go. (just have it at like 400-600-800-1000, instead of 150% of tusk speed (or 100% of everyone in it lol)).
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-13 23:01:09
March 13 2014 22:59 GMT
#16053
Yeah, I like the idea of a static, non-scaling speed. Just set it to 600 or something at all levels.

Edit: What if you let Tusk cast while in the snowball?
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Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8277 Posts
March 13 2014 23:23 GMT
#16054
On March 14 2014 07:59 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Yeah, I like the idea of a static, non-scaling speed. Just set it to 600 or something at all levels.

Edit: What if you let Tusk cast while in the snowball?


Thats an interesting idea as well. I like it. Would let him cast ice shards while engaging, making it easier to hit the snowball.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-13 23:30:44
March 13 2014 23:30 GMT
#16055
On March 14 2014 08:23 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2014 07:59 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Yeah, I like the idea of a static, non-scaling speed. Just set it to 600 or something at all levels.

Edit: What if you let Tusk cast while in the snowball?


Thats an interesting idea as well. I like it. Would let him cast ice shards while engaging, making it easier to hit the snowball.


To be completely honest it's hard to miss snowball when you hit shards if target has no force staff or Earth Spirit/Chen or something like that.

And it will just transform Tuskar for worse version of Slark who will run around the map, pick support and run away. Other playstyles won't use this potential change just.
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SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
March 14 2014 03:50 GMT
#16056
Guys, what are good time stamps to get tinkers items? Assume that it's all pick and we start with 3 branches and a tango.
I usually get the bottle at the 1:30 mark, soul ring at around 3 minutes in. However, I have a hard time getting my BoT and I get it at around 15 minutes in, that has been my biggest challenge so far, getting BoT faster. Then of course my dagger and sheepstick is late. I'm still having a hard time last hitting with tinker.
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Xxazn4lyfe51xX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States976 Posts
March 14 2014 04:08 GMT
#16057
Make full use of ancient/jungle stacking. Esp on radiant, the ancients are close enough to stack, even without leaving the mid lane.
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
March 14 2014 04:26 GMT
#16058
don't get soul ring before bots unless you need them to clear stacked ancients
bots should come in before 10 minutes, ideally around 8
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
March 14 2014 05:39 GMT
#16059
On March 14 2014 08:30 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2014 08:23 Excludos wrote:
On March 14 2014 07:59 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Yeah, I like the idea of a static, non-scaling speed. Just set it to 600 or something at all levels.

Edit: What if you let Tusk cast while in the snowball?


Thats an interesting idea as well. I like it. Would let him cast ice shards while engaging, making it easier to hit the snowball.


To be completely honest it's hard to miss snowball when you hit shards if target has no force staff or Earth Spirit/Chen or something like that.

And it will just transform Tuskar for worse version of Slark who will run around the map, pick support and run away. Other playstyles won't use this potential change just.


I feel like it'd be useful all the time. And Tusk is, right now, an inferior version of Slark who runs around the map, picks off supports and runs away. Unless you use the Sigil-max build, which to me is incredibly boring and completely counterethical to the hero (although super effective obviously).
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edgemega
Profile Joined August 2012
United States239 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-14 08:45:20
March 14 2014 08:44 GMT
#16060
On March 14 2014 12:50 SilverSkyLark wrote:
Guys, what are good time stamps to get tinkers items? Assume that it's all pick and we start with 3 branches and a tango.
I usually get the bottle at the 1:30 mark, soul ring at around 3 minutes in. However, I have a hard time getting my BoT and I get it at around 15 minutes in, that has been my biggest challenge so far, getting BoT faster. Then of course my dagger and sheepstick is late. I'm still having a hard time last hitting with tinker.


soulring before bots only on radiant or you have supports stacking jungle in dire.
As you get closer to 2k play passive/jungle. The reason BoT come out slow is if u die. Dying sets your BoT back about a minute plus each death. Jungling is kuch better than dying because even if you are forced to jungle bot will usually still come at 10-11 latest
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