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Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8277 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-16 09:17:41
October 16 2013 09:13 GMT
#12981
On October 16 2013 18:08 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
I still stand on enemy creeps attacking you if the enemy hero does.

Very much no. I don't really know what else to tell you but it does not work that way.

There is a reason that mid heroes typically have fast creep clearing skills. If you don't the best way is to simply autoattack more on that single wave. Grabbing creep aggro in the lane by autoattacking the enemy is a very slow way of doing things that takes more than one wave to push far enough, and by that point you've given the high ground advantage to the enemy for that :50 wave, allowing him to outpush you and win the rune.


I take it back, you are right. Then I really cant explain why I've experienced differently. I will have to test further to check for bugs in this area. I remember a game where this happened several times, shame replays are deleted after a few days now ;(

edit: I don't understand why you're arguing so hard on the second point tho. Yes, if you do have a creep clearing ability, go for it. If you don't, this is a valid second approach. I never said using abilities wasn't better. But not every mid hero have this ability. If you push the wave to his highground and he uses spells to clear the wave, at the very least it wont be hitting on your tower when you run for the rune now, exactly because you pushed it earlier.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34504 Posts
October 16 2013 09:17 GMT
#12982
My guess is that you continued autoattacking after the 2 second aggro cd was up.

It is not the act of right clicking or A-clicking the enemy that grabs aggro, it is simply your hero initiating an attack at the enemy, whether it be because you controlled your hero to do so or because it was the AI automatically doing it for you.
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govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-16 13:15:08
October 16 2013 12:33 GMT
#12983
I sometimes watch Liquid`qojqva. He said that Earthshaka could maybe use enchant totem (short stun with 300% damage on 1 hit, spammable every 7 seconds) in combination with desolator. I liked the combination of the cheap desolatordamage+armorreduction+short stun+300% 1 hit damage. Now, im not dota intelligent or whatever, but im gonna try to build a earthshaker around that skill. If i understand correctly i should want to have as much 1 hit damage as possible! So most of the money should go into simple damage items (and much manaregen isnt a priority). I was thinking about shadowblade to be sure u have the chance to crithit the opponent+the extra damage it gives ya.

Therefore i was thinkin to :

Basic 7000 gold
1. Start saving for boots + wand + soulring. mana and healthregen just to survive earlygame and have some mana to fissure.
2. Transition into phaseboots+desolator

Extension 8000 gold
3. Top it off with a shawdowblade
4. More money means crystalys into daedelus
------


A. Is this doable, or am i insane or just a nut?
B. How does enchant totem stack with daedelus/crystalys critical strike (or does it even stack)?
C. Does the outputdamage work well together with battlefury in a teamfight?
D. Is the damageoutput magical or psychical damage or a bit of both?

thx
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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8915 Posts
October 16 2013 12:48 GMT
#12984
Treads shadowblade daedalus is known for being a fun carry style build on es. Pair him with wisp and hes quite strong. So no youre not insane.
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
October 16 2013 14:33 GMT
#12985
only works if you team is better than your opponents.
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
October 16 2013 15:14 GMT
#12986
Sometimes Blitz does that shit and it is so funny.
I thinkthe totem crit can stack with cryst/daed crit?
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
October 16 2013 16:40 GMT
#12987
On October 17 2013 00:14 PassiveAce wrote:
Sometimes Blitz does that shit and it is so funny.
I thinkthe totem crit can stack with cryst/daed crit?


it should cuz its not a crit, its a damage buff like svens ultimate.
Cyx.
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada806 Posts
October 16 2013 21:36 GMT
#12988
On October 17 2013 01:40 aintz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 00:14 PassiveAce wrote:
Sometimes Blitz does that shit and it is so funny.
I thinkthe totem crit can stack with cryst/daed crit?


it should cuz its not a crit, its a damage buff like svens ultimate.

definitely does, I've done 1400 damage with that build in one hit I had a relic too though, I really wanted a rapier but the game ended.
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
October 17 2013 04:14 GMT
#12989
About DotaLounge's bet system. What would happen if for example, 10 players bet 20 rares (total) on Team A, and 3 players bet 6 rares (total) on Team B, and Team A wins? How would the 6 rares be split among the 10 players?
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icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
October 17 2013 04:31 GMT
#12990
there are decimals i.e. 1.6, 2.6, 3.5 etc

the decimals means that .5 or 50% of total Team A gets to get one item, while the other 50% does not.
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Discarder
Profile Joined July 2012
Philippines411 Posts
October 17 2013 06:51 GMT
#12991
On October 16 2013 16:22 evilfatsh1t wrote:
Right click the ground? All youre doing is moving away from the creeps after youve gotten their aggro.

sorry, drunk, i meant attack-move the ground.
You can take the lion out of the jungle, but you can't take the jungle out of the lion
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34504 Posts
October 17 2013 06:56 GMT
#12992
On October 17 2013 15:51 Discarder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2013 16:22 evilfatsh1t wrote:
Right click the ground? All youre doing is moving away from the creeps after youve gotten their aggro.

sorry, drunk, i meant attack-move the ground.

You probably haven't sobered up yet because that still doesn't do anything.
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Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
October 17 2013 11:54 GMT
#12993
Battlefury ES sounds like it should work. Then again it is battlefury, the smallest cleave.
I should definitely try that some time.
Shadowblade Battlefury Daedalus.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
fdsdfg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1251 Posts
October 17 2013 12:25 GMT
#12994
I'm new and I can't find exactly what happens when you're invisible. Can you be hit by AOE? Does that break invis? Can towers detect you? What about damage-over-time? What creeps can see me? What spells/attacks of mine will break invis?
aka Siyko
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34504 Posts
October 17 2013 12:28 GMT
#12995
If you're invisible you can still be hit by AOE. They don't generally break invis, but there are a few exceptions such as Chronosphere. Towers have true sight and will detect you. Damage over time won't reveal you but will continue to tick and damage you. No creeps can see you unless you are revealed by nearby gems/sentries/dust/towers. All attacks/spells will reveal your invisibility (except for Slark's ultimate) unless you cast the spell during the fade time duration, which can vary depending on the type of invisibility.
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zezamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland5701 Posts
October 17 2013 13:00 GMT
#12996
On October 17 2013 13:14 SilverSkyLark wrote:
About DotaLounge's bet system. What would happen if for example, 10 players bet 20 rares (total) on Team A, and 3 players bet 6 rares (total) on Team B, and Team A wins? How would the 6 rares be split among the 10 players?

6 players get one and 4 none
Retgery
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1229 Posts
October 17 2013 17:27 GMT
#12997
What are other popular dota community websites?
Where can I find guilds to join, or others to play with?
Are there youtubers like purge who upload full games regularly?
Fall down 7 times, stand up 8.
Rodberd
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany531 Posts
October 17 2013 18:09 GMT
#12998
websites:
joindota.com could be worth a try

guilds/ppl:
TL inhousesclick me hard

YTlers:
purge, synderen, and tons of other pros. i gues just name one and type his name into teh YT-search
Ooooh, look at it go
Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
October 17 2013 18:40 GMT
#12999
Yango what do you think of the patch?
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
October 17 2013 18:41 GMT
#13000
On October 18 2013 03:40 Nightmarjoo wrote:
Yango what do you think of the patch?

What a simple question!
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