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Soap
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Brazil1546 Posts
August 03 2013 15:45 GMT
#11001
Besides his autoattack is the least of worries, better to pick a hard disable such as Bat, Tree or Bane.
Protoss-Bah
Profile Joined October 2011
74 Posts
August 03 2013 17:30 GMT
#11002
On August 03 2013 10:55 jrkirby wrote:
Is it ever a good idea to buy a cloak, but not build it into anything? I feel like 15% magic resistance is a really good deal for 550 gold, but it's not very slot efficient.

If your opponents have like lina, or zues, i think it's one of the more cost efficient survivability items, right?

no mate, naked cloak isnt good. If you need HP vs casters early game then buy bracers, gives you approx 10-15% more HP and other stats for 525. Mid/lategame use Linken or BKB versus heavy casters or if you are support build a pipe.
Protoss-Bah
Profile Joined October 2011
74 Posts
August 03 2013 17:37 GMT
#11003
On August 02 2013 22:13 Logo wrote:
How/when and on who do people make use of clarity potions? As I play more I've been finding myself buying clarities less and less, I just don't seem to have a situation where I need them. Any hero that has a spell I want to spam I tend to just save the 50/100g and get to their mana regen item faster. Heroes without spam I tend to just use the extra gold for an earlier magic stick to help with mana in fights. Other than stuff like jungle Enigma I'm just not sure when I should be investing in clarities over rushing a mana item or just going for actual items. Is that normal or is it pretty common to only sparingly use clarities?
Clarity is such a lovely item, I love it. You dont spam enough spells if you find yourself never needing one or you are not mindful managing your hero so that enemies disable it by attacking you. I use 3x clarity if I go NP, 2-3x as ES, 1 as KotL (yeah chakra inefficient at low levels), 2x as Lina, 1x as OD if I got money over just to mention a few.
MentalGNT
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1264 Posts
August 04 2013 02:11 GMT
#11004
On August 04 2013 02:30 Protoss-Bah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 10:55 jrkirby wrote:
Is it ever a good idea to buy a cloak, but not build it into anything? I feel like 15% magic resistance is a really good deal for 550 gold, but it's not very slot efficient.

If your opponents have like lina, or zues, i think it's one of the more cost efficient survivability items, right?

no mate, naked cloak isnt good. If you need HP vs casters early game then buy bracers, gives you approx 10-15% more HP and other stats for 525. Mid/lategame use Linken or BKB versus heavy casters or if you are support build a pipe.

I feel like naked cloak on lone Druid can be good in some situations. He doesn't care that its not slot-efficient, since his hero will have most slots free anyways, and he doesn't care that much about being stunned as the bear does most of the damage anyways. He also has a ton of hp in bear form, meaning that 15% magic resistance translates into a lot of EHP.
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Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
August 04 2013 05:52 GMT
#11005
yea, it is definitely good on Lone Druid, but on other heroes, you'll either want it into a Hood or Pipe, or just get more health.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-04 07:51:50
August 04 2013 07:20 GMT
#11006
On August 04 2013 11:11 MentalGNT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2013 02:30 Protoss-Bah wrote:
On August 03 2013 10:55 jrkirby wrote:
Is it ever a good idea to buy a cloak, but not build it into anything? I feel like 15% magic resistance is a really good deal for 550 gold, but it's not very slot efficient.

If your opponents have like lina, or zues, i think it's one of the more cost efficient survivability items, right?

no mate, naked cloak isnt good. If you need HP vs casters early game then buy bracers, gives you approx 10-15% more HP and other stats for 525. Mid/lategame use Linken or BKB versus heavy casters or if you are support build a pipe.

I feel like naked cloak on lone Druid can be good in some situations. He doesn't care that its not slot-efficient, since his hero will have most slots free anyways, and he doesn't care that much about being stunned as the bear does most of the damage anyways. He also has a ton of hp in bear form, meaning that 15% magic resistance translates into a lot of EHP.


It comes to a point that you need to decide which one is more cost effective: when a bracer gives you around 110hp or that 15% magic resistance from cloak can potentially give more effective HP by blocking alot of nukes. And then of course the slot efficiency problem.

Generally cloak is an item for #1-3 where you more often to see people build them into a hood/pipe later, or the most common naked cloak carrier would be LD because he has so many slots. Otherwise, i'd say that it is a situational item where you feel like that you needed that cloak against oppo team that full of nukers where you had a bracer already (that could be made into drum) and you feel like a cloak is better than a 2nd bracer, especially in the case of playing #1-2 when your income is not looking good but you are forced to join team to fights so a quick 500~ gold investment on a cloak is justified (just sell them later since 500gold is really nothing for a carry). The only reason for #4/5 supports to get a cloak is that you are moderately fat and your team needs a pipe.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-04 07:24:32
August 04 2013 07:22 GMT
#11007
nvm- i dont know enough to comment.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 04 2013 08:13 GMT
#11008
Sera covered it pretty thoroughly.

Casual cloak on supports was more common when there weren't as many good options for supports, so you often just ended up with vit booster+cloak as cheap slot-filler. Nowadays there are too many other useful items that supports will buy into those slots, so its hard to find a practical time to get one.
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Andre
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Slovenia3523 Posts
August 04 2013 08:13 GMT
#11009
Is morphling's waveform supposed to not break tether? or is it a bug
You must gather your party before venturing forth.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
August 04 2013 10:17 GMT
#11010
Is shadow demon disruption supposed to have a visual indicator of when it ends? I swear I recall seeing this at one point. I know OD's astral imprisonment does.
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
YoruWaAkeru
Profile Joined April 2012
41 Posts
August 04 2013 10:59 GMT
#11011
I've seen somewhere (probalby reddit) a good dota2 cm pick guide, but I can't find it anymore. If someone has it please send me.
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
August 04 2013 11:18 GMT
#11012
On August 04 2013 19:17 ahswtini wrote:
Is shadow demon disruption supposed to have a visual indicator of when it ends? I swear I recall seeing this at one point. I know OD's astral imprisonment does.


none as far as I know

the difference between OD's and SD's is that OD's imprisonment time scales with the level, SD's time stays fixed.
Narcind
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2489 Posts
August 04 2013 13:12 GMT
#11013
I just realized I've never tried this before, and it could be useful to know; can the spirit bear use cheese?
ChunderBoy
Profile Joined August 2011
3242 Posts
August 04 2013 13:55 GMT
#11014
On August 04 2013 22:12 Canas wrote:
I just realized I've never tried this before, and it could be useful to know; can the spirit bear use cheese?

Pretty sure you can, also more about bears if game goes rly rly rly late LD shud probably buy a Refresher for 3 bears.
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Cyx.
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada806 Posts
August 04 2013 16:11 GMT
#11015
On August 04 2013 22:55 ChunderBoy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2013 22:12 Canas wrote:
I just realized I've never tried this before, and it could be useful to know; can the spirit bear use cheese?

Pretty sure you can, also more about bears if game goes rly rly rly late LD shud probably buy a Refresher for 3 bears.

Pretty sure that doesn't work unfortunately ^^
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
August 04 2013 16:24 GMT
#11016
On August 05 2013 01:11 Cyx. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2013 22:55 ChunderBoy wrote:
On August 04 2013 22:12 Canas wrote:
I just realized I've never tried this before, and it could be useful to know; can the spirit bear use cheese?

Pretty sure you can, also more about bears if game goes rly rly rly late LD shud probably buy a Refresher for 3 bears.

Pretty sure that doesn't work unfortunately ^^

clearly you let them kill the bear twice and fool them into thinking that there's no bear left when in reality you have refresher
:)
tehplank
Profile Joined October 2010
977 Posts
August 04 2013 16:30 GMT
#11017
Does Spectre's Dispersion work under the effects of Astral Imprisonment (Drop a Sanity's Eclipse on an AI'd Spectre).
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Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
August 04 2013 19:55 GMT
#11018
On August 05 2013 01:30 tehplank wrote:
Does Spectre's Dispersion work under the effects of Astral Imprisonment (Drop a Sanity's Eclipse on an AI'd Spectre).

It shouldn't. Imprisonment removes from the map and pauses a hero, that also removes most passive abilities. (at least in dota 1, "paused" status is not a mechanic in dota 2 afaik)
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
August 04 2013 23:26 GMT
#11019
Is it ever worth buying linken's on lifestealer if you're facing a team with multiple disables that ignore magic immunity? (bm, bane, bat, etc).

Also when is sange and yasha appropriate on lifestealer?
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govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
August 04 2013 23:27 GMT
#11020
Ok, so , i am a sc2 player that has played his first two DOTA2 game today. 1 win 1 loss. I did a lichbuild because i read somewhere that as a support its easier in the start. But what i need to know atm aint in the guide

So hopefully u guys/girls will help me out.

1. I play a lichbuild as support for the carries. Now ,do I need to let them take all the xp and gold or not, if so how do i get to the point of mekanism+some research?
2. Lets say i try this lich+mekanism+drum of indurance build. What do i research first, 2nd, 3rd and 4th with a build like this?

thx peeps!
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