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On July 16 2013 09:56 Belisarius wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2013 08:19 Bibbit wrote:Thanks for all the responses on the tower denying question ! I feel a bit less dumb now that it wasn't a super straight up yes/no question  This is dota (/Sparta). Any post containing "always" will always trigger discussion. Possibly even this one. It won't ALWAYS trigger discussion... will it?
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On July 16 2013 10:26 synapse wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2013 09:56 Belisarius wrote:On July 16 2013 08:19 Bibbit wrote:Thanks for all the responses on the tower denying question ! I feel a bit less dumb now that it wasn't a super straight up yes/no question  This is dota (/Sparta). Any post containing "always" will always trigger discussion. Possibly even this one. It won't ALWAYS trigger discussion... will it?
When your ancient dies, you ALWAYS lose the game. Right?
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On July 16 2013 12:40 hacklebeast wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2013 10:26 synapse wrote:On July 16 2013 09:56 Belisarius wrote:On July 16 2013 08:19 Bibbit wrote:Thanks for all the responses on the tower denying question ! I feel a bit less dumb now that it wasn't a super straight up yes/no question  This is dota (/Sparta). Any post containing "always" will always trigger discussion. Possibly even this one. It won't ALWAYS trigger discussion... will it? When your ancient dies, you ALWAYS lose the game. Right?
But, but! What if you and the other team both kill each others ancients at the exact same time???
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On July 16 2013 12:40 hacklebeast wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2013 10:26 synapse wrote:On July 16 2013 09:56 Belisarius wrote:On July 16 2013 08:19 Bibbit wrote:Thanks for all the responses on the tower denying question ! I feel a bit less dumb now that it wasn't a super straight up yes/no question  This is dota (/Sparta). Any post containing "always" will always trigger discussion. Possibly even this one. It won't ALWAYS trigger discussion... will it? When your ancient dies, you ALWAYS lose the game. Right?
Not if you are playing traitor mode and you are the traitor. :D
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Traitor mode-- is that like randoming Mirana/Meepo/Medusa/Axe/Bloodseeker/Nightstalker and not repicking?
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On July 16 2013 17:50 Nightmarjoo wrote: Traitor mode-- is that like randoming Mirana/Meepo/Medusa/Axe/Bloodseeker/Nightstalker and not repicking?
traitor mode is when one guy on each team tries his hardest to lose the game for his team. Can't courier feed (I think) and after three deaths he has to sit at the fountain.
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not sure why you would lump NS/Mirana with all those other heroes.
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What's wrong with axe and new medusa?
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On July 16 2013 19:56 igotmyown wrote: What's wrong with axe and new medusa?
Was about to ask the same. The new medusa ulti is ridiculous..
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On July 16 2013 19:56 igotmyown wrote: What's wrong with axe and new medusa?
Axe gets useless really fast as his abilities starts to dwindle. He can be ok in a midgame dominant type of setup, but people in pubs use him as a carry.
Medusa is the exact opposite. She's best at the 50 min mark or so. People in pubs generally doesn't have the skills, coordination and teamwork required to pull her off.
So when you see someone pick medusa or axe, you know you're in for a shitty game.
In the progaming scene, they do have certain attributes that makes them viable in very specific scenarios. But in general, they do nothing that other heroes of the same type doesn't do way better imo.
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On July 16 2013 19:56 igotmyown wrote: What's wrong with axe and new medusa?
Axe is extremely matchup dependent. He's a great counterpick to many heroes.
Lately, the pick Axe blindly and go jungle guys seem to have disappeared from pubs for good, most likely they kept losing.
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When naga happens in pubs people kind of just pray that she afk farms and never uses her ult, because half the people that play her seem to not even know you can turn song off
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What would be good guidelines for picking and laning Furion? He seems so item dependent the further you go, it seems like it's good to participate in ganks in the early game and then get Lothars and split push to death.
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On July 16 2013 21:47 mizU wrote: When medusa happens in pubs people kind of just pray that she afk farms and never uses her ult, because half the people that play her seem to not even know you can turn song off
Medusa != Naga
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On July 16 2013 17:50 Nightmarjoo wrote: Traitor mode-- is that like randoming Mirana/Meepo/Medusa/Axe/Bloodseeker/Nightstalker and not repicking? they're all pretty good as long as you have some gamesense and timeflow in pubs
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On July 16 2013 21:47 makmeatt wrote: What would be good guidelines for picking and laning Furion? He seems so item dependent the further you go, it seems like it's good to participate in ganks in the early game and then get Lothars and split push to death. thats pretty much what he does. gank and split push. how you build his items is a huge factor in how he is played though. for ganking oriented furion, you opt for orchid/hex for the single target disable. however, for hardcore split pushing/carry, you might opt for other items such as maelstrom. i personally prefer the maelstrom build because pub players are terrible at defending split pushes, and the farm you get from it is enormous, allowing you to outcarry their hard carry in most cases.
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i think necro book + mek is much better in splitpushing
shadowblade is a must since fur has no proper escape mechanism
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On July 16 2013 22:44 Erasme wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2013 17:50 Nightmarjoo wrote: Traitor mode-- is that like randoming Mirana/Meepo/Medusa/Axe/Bloodseeker/Nightstalker and not repicking? they're all pretty good as long as you have some gamesense and timeflow in pubs They're all good pub heroes.
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On July 16 2013 19:56 igotmyown wrote: What's wrong with axe and new medusa? I don't think there's anything wrong with new Medusa, but there's no context to really judge her in because she's not popular in pubs and isn't in -CM yet.
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On July 16 2013 17:50 Nightmarjoo wrote: Traitor mode-- is that like randoming Mirana/Meepo/Medusa/Axe/Bloodseeker/Nightstalker and not repicking?
Pubwise? all heroes mentioned are good enough. I think you mean a that guy playing IO, Elder titan and does not know what he is doing 
Or back in Dota 1 techies.
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