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synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
July 16 2013 01:26 GMT
#10461
On July 16 2013 09:56 Belisarius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 08:19 Bibbit wrote:
Thanks for all the responses on the tower denying question !

I feel a bit less dumb now that it wasn't a super straight up yes/no question


This is dota (/Sparta). Any post containing "always" will always trigger discussion. Possibly even this one.

It won't ALWAYS trigger discussion... will it?
:)
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8913 Posts
July 16 2013 03:23 GMT
#10462
^i see what u did there
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
July 16 2013 03:40 GMT
#10463
On July 16 2013 10:26 synapse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 09:56 Belisarius wrote:
On July 16 2013 08:19 Bibbit wrote:
Thanks for all the responses on the tower denying question !

I feel a bit less dumb now that it wasn't a super straight up yes/no question


This is dota (/Sparta). Any post containing "always" will always trigger discussion. Possibly even this one.

It won't ALWAYS trigger discussion... will it?


When your ancient dies, you ALWAYS lose the game. Right?
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
Xxazn4lyfe51xX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States976 Posts
July 16 2013 04:15 GMT
#10464
On July 16 2013 12:40 hacklebeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 10:26 synapse wrote:
On July 16 2013 09:56 Belisarius wrote:
On July 16 2013 08:19 Bibbit wrote:
Thanks for all the responses on the tower denying question !

I feel a bit less dumb now that it wasn't a super straight up yes/no question


This is dota (/Sparta). Any post containing "always" will always trigger discussion. Possibly even this one.

It won't ALWAYS trigger discussion... will it?


When your ancient dies, you ALWAYS lose the game. Right?


But, but! What if you and the other team both kill each others ancients at the exact same time???
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
July 16 2013 04:20 GMT
#10465
On July 16 2013 12:40 hacklebeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 10:26 synapse wrote:
On July 16 2013 09:56 Belisarius wrote:
On July 16 2013 08:19 Bibbit wrote:
Thanks for all the responses on the tower denying question !

I feel a bit less dumb now that it wasn't a super straight up yes/no question


This is dota (/Sparta). Any post containing "always" will always trigger discussion. Possibly even this one.

It won't ALWAYS trigger discussion... will it?


When your ancient dies, you ALWAYS lose the game. Right?


Not if you are playing traitor mode and you are the traitor. :D
Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
July 16 2013 08:50 GMT
#10466
Traitor mode-- is that like randoming Mirana/Meepo/Medusa/Axe/Bloodseeker/Nightstalker and not repicking?
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hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
July 16 2013 09:36 GMT
#10467
On July 16 2013 17:50 Nightmarjoo wrote:
Traitor mode-- is that like randoming Mirana/Meepo/Medusa/Axe/Bloodseeker/Nightstalker and not repicking?


traitor mode is when one guy on each team tries his hardest to lose the game for his team. Can't courier feed (I think) and after three deaths he has to sit at the fountain.

...

not sure why you would lump NS/Mirana with all those other heroes.
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
July 16 2013 10:56 GMT
#10468
What's wrong with axe and new medusa?
FreeZer
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden288 Posts
July 16 2013 11:00 GMT
#10469
On July 16 2013 19:56 igotmyown wrote:
What's wrong with axe and new medusa?


Was about to ask the same. The new medusa ulti is ridiculous..
Ahh Scept-- hey where did you come from?
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8272 Posts
July 16 2013 11:01 GMT
#10470
On July 16 2013 19:56 igotmyown wrote:
What's wrong with axe and new medusa?


Axe gets useless really fast as his abilities starts to dwindle. He can be ok in a midgame dominant type of setup, but people in pubs use him as a carry.

Medusa is the exact opposite. She's best at the 50 min mark or so. People in pubs generally doesn't have the skills, coordination and teamwork required to pull her off.

So when you see someone pick medusa or axe, you know you're in for a shitty game.

In the progaming scene, they do have certain attributes that makes them viable in very specific scenarios. But in general, they do nothing that other heroes of the same type doesn't do way better imo.
EtherealBlade
Profile Joined August 2010
660 Posts
July 16 2013 11:16 GMT
#10471
On July 16 2013 19:56 igotmyown wrote:
What's wrong with axe and new medusa?


Axe is extremely matchup dependent. He's a great counterpick to many heroes.

Lately, the pick Axe blindly and go jungle guys seem to have disappeared from pubs for good, most likely they kept losing.
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-16 13:44:07
July 16 2013 12:47 GMT
#10472
When naga happens in pubs people kind of just pray that she afk farms and never uses her ult, because half the people that play her seem to not even know you can turn song off
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
makmeatt
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
2024 Posts
July 16 2013 12:47 GMT
#10473
What would be good guidelines for picking and laning Furion? He seems so item dependent the further you go, it seems like it's good to participate in ganks in the early game and then get Lothars and split push to death.
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Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8272 Posts
July 16 2013 13:24 GMT
#10474
On July 16 2013 21:47 mizU wrote:
When medusa happens in pubs people kind of just pray that she afk farms and never uses her ult, because half the people that play her seem to not even know you can turn song off


Medusa != Naga
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
July 16 2013 13:44 GMT
#10475
On July 16 2013 17:50 Nightmarjoo wrote:
Traitor mode-- is that like randoming Mirana/Meepo/Medusa/Axe/Bloodseeker/Nightstalker and not repicking?

they're all pretty good as long as you have some gamesense and timeflow in pubs
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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8913 Posts
July 16 2013 14:02 GMT
#10476
On July 16 2013 21:47 makmeatt wrote:
What would be good guidelines for picking and laning Furion? He seems so item dependent the further you go, it seems like it's good to participate in ganks in the early game and then get Lothars and split push to death.

thats pretty much what he does. gank and split push. how you build his items is a huge factor in how he is played though. for ganking oriented furion, you opt for orchid/hex for the single target disable. however, for hardcore split pushing/carry, you might opt for other items such as maelstrom. i personally prefer the maelstrom build because pub players are terrible at defending split pushes, and the farm you get from it is enormous, allowing you to outcarry their hard carry in most cases.
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
July 16 2013 14:13 GMT
#10477
i think necro book + mek is much better in splitpushing

shadowblade is a must since fur has no proper escape mechanism
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nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
July 16 2013 14:38 GMT
#10478
On July 16 2013 22:44 Erasme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 17:50 Nightmarjoo wrote:
Traitor mode-- is that like randoming Mirana/Meepo/Medusa/Axe/Bloodseeker/Nightstalker and not repicking?

they're all pretty good as long as you have some gamesense and timeflow in pubs

They're all good pub heroes.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
July 16 2013 14:47 GMT
#10479
On July 16 2013 19:56 igotmyown wrote:
What's wrong with axe and new medusa?

I don't think there's anything wrong with new Medusa, but there's no context to really judge her in because she's not popular in pubs and isn't in -CM yet.
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woreyour
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
582 Posts
July 16 2013 14:54 GMT
#10480
On July 16 2013 17:50 Nightmarjoo wrote:
Traitor mode-- is that like randoming Mirana/Meepo/Medusa/Axe/Bloodseeker/Nightstalker and not repicking?



Pubwise? all heroes mentioned are good enough. I think you mean a that guy playing IO, Elder titan and does not know what he is doing

Or back in Dota 1 techies.
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