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icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
July 13 2013 07:33 GMT
#10401
On July 13 2013 15:40 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 15:24 DoNotDisturb wrote:
does aphotic shield remove doom, or does it only absorb the damage?

It actually wasn't even targetable on Doomed targets in DotA 1 (because it removed Doom). In DotA 2 you can target it on Doomed targets, but it doesn't remove Doom.

but does it absorb the doom dmg?
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igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
July 13 2013 07:55 GMT
#10402
On July 13 2013 15:40 Mataza wrote:
I would really be surprised if doom was removed by an 8 second cooldown spell.

You mean like how you could purge god's strength?
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-13 08:06:14
July 13 2013 07:58 GMT
#10403
On July 13 2013 15:40 Mataza wrote:
I would really be surprised if doom was removed by an 8 second cooldown spell.

The "Doom" debuff actually *is* removed by Aphotic Shield, which is why Icefrog had to make Doomed heroes invalid targets for Aphotic Shield. In fact if you started casting Aphotic Shield before the Doom was applied, you would successfully cast it and remove the Doom.

The only other case where the "Doom" debuff is used is Legion Commander's ultimate, though because the Taunt portion of the Duel effect is still triggered, this is not removed--and the end result is that using Aphotic Shield on a target engaged in a duel allows them only allows certain edge case item activations (IIRC removing the Doom effect allows them to activate Wand for example) and not total freedom of movement.

On July 13 2013 16:33 icystorage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 15:40 TheYango wrote:
On July 13 2013 15:24 DoNotDisturb wrote:
does aphotic shield remove doom, or does it only absorb the damage?

It actually wasn't even targetable on Doomed targets in DotA 1 (because it removed Doom). In DotA 2 you can target it on Doomed targets, but it doesn't remove Doom.

but does it absorb the doom dmg?

Yes, it does.
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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8913 Posts
July 13 2013 09:19 GMT
#10404
On July 13 2013 16:55 igotmyown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 15:40 Mataza wrote:
I would really be surprised if doom was removed by an 8 second cooldown spell.

You mean like how you could purge god's strength?

i dont think u can purge god strength anymore
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
July 13 2013 09:22 GMT
#10405
On July 13 2013 18:19 evilfatsh1t wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 16:55 igotmyown wrote:
On July 13 2013 15:40 Mataza wrote:
I would really be surprised if doom was removed by an 8 second cooldown spell.

You mean like how you could purge god's strength?

i dont think u can purge god strength anymore

Well that would be why he used the world "Could"

Question: I've asked before but, since S&Y isn't an orb anymore does it stack with itself now? Diminishingly obviously, but does it stack?
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LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
July 13 2013 09:28 GMT
#10406
If you have a magnus on your team as AM, what item should you start with? BF seems like overkill on the cleave, but rushing manta leaves you with quite big mana problems.
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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8913 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-13 10:08:21
July 13 2013 10:07 GMT
#10407
On July 13 2013 18:28 LAN-f34r wrote:
If you have a magnus on your team as AM, what item should you start with? BF seems like overkill on the cleave, but rushing manta leaves you with quite big mana problems.

still battlefury. if you get it really early magnus wont even have empower for you, and even if he did its not strong enough in the early lvls to make up for not having a battlefury. not to mention the fact that hed have to follow you around permanently to make sure youre buffed 24/7
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-13 11:54:57
July 13 2013 11:54 GMT
#10408
And it's not overkill at all in teamfights.
RP on 2-3 + empower and BF means you're melting 2-3 people at once.

Like so:
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17702 Posts
July 13 2013 12:45 GMT
#10409
what does this "mvgame" thing mean.. that people end their comments with in various forums?
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
July 13 2013 19:32 GMT
#10410
On July 13 2013 19:07 evilfatsh1t wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 18:28 LAN-f34r wrote:
If you have a magnus on your team as AM, what item should you start with? BF seems like overkill on the cleave, but rushing manta leaves you with quite big mana problems.

still battlefury. if you get it really early magnus wont even have empower for you, and even if he did its not strong enough in the early lvls to make up for not having a battlefury. not to mention the fact that hed have to follow you around permanently to make sure youre buffed 24/7

Keep in mind using BKB will purge Empower.

A lot of people forget that
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-13 19:56:45
July 13 2013 19:52 GMT
#10411
Will the automatic trigger on borrowed time not happen if abbadon is sufficiently overkilled? I assume axe can ult abbadon without having to worry about it triggering but I was wondering if any sufficient source of damage would prevent the trigger.

o wait i re read the description and I think i know the answer, i thought it triggered when you went below 400 but I guess its when you take damage when already below 400. so i guess anything can prevent it?
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
July 13 2013 20:02 GMT
#10412
It does not trigger if you take a lethal damage instance when you are above 400 HP (e.g. you get Lion ulted at 500 HP).
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Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
July 14 2013 02:43 GMT
#10413
On July 13 2013 18:22 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 18:19 evilfatsh1t wrote:
On July 13 2013 16:55 igotmyown wrote:
On July 13 2013 15:40 Mataza wrote:
I would really be surprised if doom was removed by an 8 second cooldown spell.

You mean like how you could purge god's strength?

i dont think u can purge god strength anymore

Well that would be why he used the world "Could"

Question: I've asked before but, since S&Y isn't an orb anymore does it stack with itself now? Diminishingly obviously, but does it stack?


I just created a quick test game to test this, and yes it works. I can't say how the math behind it works but I assume it's the same as with stout shield?
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-14 03:19:21
July 14 2013 02:53 GMT
#10414
On July 13 2013 18:22 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 18:19 evilfatsh1t wrote:
On July 13 2013 16:55 igotmyown wrote:
On July 13 2013 15:40 Mataza wrote:
I would really be surprised if doom was removed by an 8 second cooldown spell.

You mean like how you could purge god's strength?

i dont think u can purge god strength anymore

Well that would be why he used the world "Could"

Question: I've asked before but, since S&Y isn't an orb anymore does it stack with itself now? Diminishingly obviously, but does it stack?


If your maim triggers twice the second should just refresh the debuff duration. You can Greater Maim and Lesser Main something though, although you might need two different heroes to apply (one has S&Y and the other has Halberd for example).

Actually that is on the bug list.
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crayhasissues
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States682 Posts
July 14 2013 03:34 GMT
#10415
I've played a LOT of Dota 2, and somehow I don't know what creep skipping is.

Can someone explain it to me? I'm sure I've seen it and hell maybe even done it. I'm just not sure what it is.
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-14 04:13:31
July 14 2013 03:39 GMT
#10416
On July 14 2013 12:34 crayhasissues wrote:
I've played a LOT of Dota 2, and somehow I don't know what creep skipping is.

Can someone explain it to me? I'm sure I've seen it and hell maybe even done it. I'm just not sure what it is.


It's when you kill the enemies creep wave on the other side of their tower (between their T2 and T1 typically). You'll see this with Axe or Darkseer most commonly.
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Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
July 14 2013 03:48 GMT
#10417
More in general creep skipping is when one kills the enemy creepwave before it meets your own creeps.
It was at some points forbidden in dota leagues, along with backdooring(killing a tower without your creepwave).
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crayhasissues
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States682 Posts
July 14 2013 04:12 GMT
#10418
Got it. Thanks for the clarification guys. I've obviously done it and seen it, just didn't know the terminology.
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Scrandom
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2819 Posts
July 14 2013 04:49 GMT
#10419
If Bane nightmares a clockwork who has battery assault active, does it stop batter assault?
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
July 14 2013 04:56 GMT
#10420
On July 14 2013 13:49 Scrandom wrote:
If Bane nightmares a clockwork who has battery assault active, does it stop batter assault?


No, battery assault is triggered once and then continues to be active (even through astral and disruption iirc). Think of it like Eclipse or Song of the Siren in the way it works.
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