• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 18:47
CET 00:47
KST 08:47
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Dark completes military service, returns to SC28[BSL23] RO16 Group Stage19Weekly Cups (Nov 2-8): herO back on top?2Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win0Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.175
StarCraft 2
General
No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? Dark completes military service, returns to SC2 Greetings.. Serral's getting trashed by New Catsle's Mind Weekly Cups (Nov 2-8): herO back on top?
Tourneys
Dark returns! GSL CK #7 4v4 Team Battle (Nov 19) Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) soO & FanTaSy return! SC2 Kevin Scrim 4v4 (Nov 16) RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 Tasteless Time Warp: SC Evo Showmatch (May 25)
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[G] How to playtest arcade maps Starcraft 2 Advance [D] the control group Simple Questions/Answers
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 551 Robotic Revival Mutation # 550 Graveyard Shift Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion HELPls! The old replay video w full HD resolution List of top players active on ShieldBattery Recommended BW Settings for Mouse and Video Starcraft:Brood War Discord Servers
Tourneys
Bisu's Team vs Shuttle's Team 2026-11-14 2v2v2v2 Tournament Stage 1: Community Poll [BSL23] Ro16 Group C - Sunday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Pluto's TvP 5Marine 2Medic Push Infested Terran strategies in 2026 Nuke strategy worked in K-League 2026-11-09
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Free Space RTS Game, optimised f. Phone/Tablet etc List of Game Threads The PlayStation 5 Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Can Game Data Analytics Help Players Improvements
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Dating: How's your luck?
Fan Clubs
Fan Club Resource Thread Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Football (Soccer) Thread MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
VCT 2027 America Kickoff LAT…
anakin.
The time I organised my…
AssyrianKing
Why I built Repalyzer (1.1.…
BlueStar
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 11414 users

Simple Questions, Simple Answers - Page 521

Forum Index > Dota 2 Strategy
Post a Reply
Prev 1 519 520 521 522 523 1254 Next
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
July 13 2013 07:33 GMT
#10401
On July 13 2013 15:40 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 15:24 DoNotDisturb wrote:
does aphotic shield remove doom, or does it only absorb the damage?

It actually wasn't even targetable on Doomed targets in DotA 1 (because it removed Doom). In DotA 2 you can target it on Doomed targets, but it doesn't remove Doom.

but does it absorb the doom dmg?
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
July 13 2013 07:55 GMT
#10402
On July 13 2013 15:40 Mataza wrote:
I would really be surprised if doom was removed by an 8 second cooldown spell.

You mean like how you could purge god's strength?
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-13 08:06:14
July 13 2013 07:58 GMT
#10403
On July 13 2013 15:40 Mataza wrote:
I would really be surprised if doom was removed by an 8 second cooldown spell.

The "Doom" debuff actually *is* removed by Aphotic Shield, which is why Icefrog had to make Doomed heroes invalid targets for Aphotic Shield. In fact if you started casting Aphotic Shield before the Doom was applied, you would successfully cast it and remove the Doom.

The only other case where the "Doom" debuff is used is Legion Commander's ultimate, though because the Taunt portion of the Duel effect is still triggered, this is not removed--and the end result is that using Aphotic Shield on a target engaged in a duel allows them only allows certain edge case item activations (IIRC removing the Doom effect allows them to activate Wand for example) and not total freedom of movement.

On July 13 2013 16:33 icystorage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 15:40 TheYango wrote:
On July 13 2013 15:24 DoNotDisturb wrote:
does aphotic shield remove doom, or does it only absorb the damage?

It actually wasn't even targetable on Doomed targets in DotA 1 (because it removed Doom). In DotA 2 you can target it on Doomed targets, but it doesn't remove Doom.

but does it absorb the doom dmg?

Yes, it does.
Moderator
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8947 Posts
July 13 2013 09:19 GMT
#10404
On July 13 2013 16:55 igotmyown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 15:40 Mataza wrote:
I would really be surprised if doom was removed by an 8 second cooldown spell.

You mean like how you could purge god's strength?

i dont think u can purge god strength anymore
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
July 13 2013 09:22 GMT
#10405
On July 13 2013 18:19 evilfatsh1t wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 16:55 igotmyown wrote:
On July 13 2013 15:40 Mataza wrote:
I would really be surprised if doom was removed by an 8 second cooldown spell.

You mean like how you could purge god's strength?

i dont think u can purge god strength anymore

Well that would be why he used the world "Could"

Question: I've asked before but, since S&Y isn't an orb anymore does it stack with itself now? Diminishingly obviously, but does it stack?
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
July 13 2013 09:28 GMT
#10406
If you have a magnus on your team as AM, what item should you start with? BF seems like overkill on the cleave, but rushing manta leaves you with quite big mana problems.
The only barrier to truth is the presumption that you already have it. It's through our pane (pain) we window (win though).
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8947 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-13 10:08:21
July 13 2013 10:07 GMT
#10407
On July 13 2013 18:28 LAN-f34r wrote:
If you have a magnus on your team as AM, what item should you start with? BF seems like overkill on the cleave, but rushing manta leaves you with quite big mana problems.

still battlefury. if you get it really early magnus wont even have empower for you, and even if he did its not strong enough in the early lvls to make up for not having a battlefury. not to mention the fact that hed have to follow you around permanently to make sure youre buffed 24/7
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-13 11:54:57
July 13 2013 11:54 GMT
#10408
And it's not overkill at all in teamfights.
RP on 2-3 + empower and BF means you're melting 2-3 people at once.

Like so:
+ Show Spoiler +
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada18057 Posts
July 13 2013 12:45 GMT
#10409
what does this "mvgame" thing mean.. that people end their comments with in various forums?
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
July 13 2013 19:32 GMT
#10410
On July 13 2013 19:07 evilfatsh1t wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 18:28 LAN-f34r wrote:
If you have a magnus on your team as AM, what item should you start with? BF seems like overkill on the cleave, but rushing manta leaves you with quite big mana problems.

still battlefury. if you get it really early magnus wont even have empower for you, and even if he did its not strong enough in the early lvls to make up for not having a battlefury. not to mention the fact that hed have to follow you around permanently to make sure youre buffed 24/7

Keep in mind using BKB will purge Empower.

A lot of people forget that
ヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノDELETE ICEFROGヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-13 19:56:45
July 13 2013 19:52 GMT
#10411
Will the automatic trigger on borrowed time not happen if abbadon is sufficiently overkilled? I assume axe can ult abbadon without having to worry about it triggering but I was wondering if any sufficient source of damage would prevent the trigger.

o wait i re read the description and I think i know the answer, i thought it triggered when you went below 400 but I guess its when you take damage when already below 400. so i guess anything can prevent it?
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
July 13 2013 20:02 GMT
#10412
It does not trigger if you take a lethal damage instance when you are above 400 HP (e.g. you get Lion ulted at 500 HP).
Moderator
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
July 14 2013 02:43 GMT
#10413
On July 13 2013 18:22 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 18:19 evilfatsh1t wrote:
On July 13 2013 16:55 igotmyown wrote:
On July 13 2013 15:40 Mataza wrote:
I would really be surprised if doom was removed by an 8 second cooldown spell.

You mean like how you could purge god's strength?

i dont think u can purge god strength anymore

Well that would be why he used the world "Could"

Question: I've asked before but, since S&Y isn't an orb anymore does it stack with itself now? Diminishingly obviously, but does it stack?


I just created a quick test game to test this, and yes it works. I can't say how the math behind it works but I assume it's the same as with stout shield?
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-14 03:19:21
July 14 2013 02:53 GMT
#10414
On July 13 2013 18:22 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 18:19 evilfatsh1t wrote:
On July 13 2013 16:55 igotmyown wrote:
On July 13 2013 15:40 Mataza wrote:
I would really be surprised if doom was removed by an 8 second cooldown spell.

You mean like how you could purge god's strength?

i dont think u can purge god strength anymore

Well that would be why he used the world "Could"

Question: I've asked before but, since S&Y isn't an orb anymore does it stack with itself now? Diminishingly obviously, but does it stack?


If your maim triggers twice the second should just refresh the debuff duration. You can Greater Maim and Lesser Main something though, although you might need two different heroes to apply (one has S&Y and the other has Halberd for example).

Actually that is on the bug list.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
crayhasissues
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States682 Posts
July 14 2013 03:34 GMT
#10415
I've played a LOT of Dota 2, and somehow I don't know what creep skipping is.

Can someone explain it to me? I'm sure I've seen it and hell maybe even done it. I'm just not sure what it is.
twitch.tv/crayhasissues ||| @crayhasissues on twitter ||| Dota 2 Streamer that loves to help new players!
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-14 04:13:31
July 14 2013 03:39 GMT
#10416
On July 14 2013 12:34 crayhasissues wrote:
I've played a LOT of Dota 2, and somehow I don't know what creep skipping is.

Can someone explain it to me? I'm sure I've seen it and hell maybe even done it. I'm just not sure what it is.


It's when you kill the enemies creep wave on the other side of their tower (between their T2 and T1 typically). You'll see this with Axe or Darkseer most commonly.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
July 14 2013 03:48 GMT
#10417
More in general creep skipping is when one kills the enemy creepwave before it meets your own creeps.
It was at some points forbidden in dota leagues, along with backdooring(killing a tower without your creepwave).
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
crayhasissues
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States682 Posts
July 14 2013 04:12 GMT
#10418
Got it. Thanks for the clarification guys. I've obviously done it and seen it, just didn't know the terminology.
twitch.tv/crayhasissues ||| @crayhasissues on twitter ||| Dota 2 Streamer that loves to help new players!
Scrandom
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2819 Posts
July 14 2013 04:49 GMT
#10419
If Bane nightmares a clockwork who has battery assault active, does it stop batter assault?
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
July 14 2013 04:56 GMT
#10420
On July 14 2013 13:49 Scrandom wrote:
If Bane nightmares a clockwork who has battery assault active, does it stop batter assault?


No, battery assault is triggered once and then continues to be active (even through astral and disruption iirc). Think of it like Eclipse or Song of the Siren in the way it works.
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
Prev 1 519 520 521 522 523 1254 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
08:30
Masters Cup #151: Playoffs
ByuN vs MaxPax
herO vs Krystianer
Percival vs Shameless
LetaleX vs YoungYakov
Nicoract vs Gerald
GgMaChine vs ArT
davetesta18
Liquipedia
The PiG Daily
07:00
Best Games of SC
Clem vs MaxPax
herO vs Solar
SHIN vs TBD
PiGStarcraft425
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft416
Nathanias 97
StarCraft: Brood War
Pusan 159
Terrorterran 34
LuMiX 6
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm88
League of Legends
JimRising 81
Counter-Strike
allub272
jkaem139
Other Games
summit1g7773
tarik_tv6067
Grubby2468
syndereN188
C9.Mang0161
Liquid`Hasu144
PPMD28
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1639
BasetradeTV133
StarCraft 2
CranKy Ducklings35
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 91
• StrangeGG 28
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP6
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki27
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• imaqtpie989
Upcoming Events
CranKy Ducklings
10h 13m
WardiTV Invitational
12h 13m
ByuN vs SHIN
MaxPax vs Solar
Clem vs TBD
herO vs TBD
Lambo vs TBD
Rogue vs TBD
IPSL
17h 13m
TerrOr vs IJ_Terran
rasowy vs Hazorath
BSL
20h 13m
TerrOr vs OyAji
UltrA vs Gosudark
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 10h
WardiTV Invitational
1d 12h
IPSL
1d 17h
Art_Of_Turtle vs KameZerg
Radley vs George
BSL
1d 20h
Artosis vs Dewalt
Ret vs Tech
SOOP
2 days
WardiTV Weekly
2 days
[ Show More ]
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
PiGosaur Cup
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
GSL
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
KCM Race Survival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-11-12
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
Individual League
BSL Season 23
IPSL Winter 2026-27
Calamity Cup Div. A Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026

Upcoming

YSL S4
Sector 591
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
StarCraft2 Weekly Open Tournament 2026 Grand Finals
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Underdog Cup 2026 Div 2-3
PGL Bucharest 2027
BLAST Bounty Winter 2027
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.