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LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
July 01 2013 00:30 GMT
#10041
Although, being dota, it has exceptions. For example, going invisible will prevent sven's storm hammer from hitting, even though it is an AoE.
The only barrier to truth is the presumption that you already have it. It's through our pane (pain) we window (win though).
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
July 01 2013 00:33 GMT
#10042
I thought it still hits in an aoe even if the target dodges?
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
July 01 2013 00:34 GMT
#10043
On July 01 2013 09:30 LAN-f34r wrote:
Although, being dota, it has exceptions. For example, going invisible will prevent sven's storm hammer from hitting, even though it is an AoE.


That is actually a bug.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
July 01 2013 00:42 GMT
#10044
Though it's a fairly recent one, as of when he reworked Alch's stun to stun AoE (and made an undocumented change to Storm Bolt to work the same way).
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mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
July 01 2013 01:49 GMT
#10045
Whoa drow silence works as a dust?
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
July 01 2013 01:50 GMT
#10046
On July 01 2013 10:49 mizU wrote:
Whoa drow silence works as a dust?


No. If you silence a riki he won't be permanently invisible anymore because his ability is silenced. It will not work with shadowblade for instance.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8913 Posts
July 01 2013 01:56 GMT
#10047
veno's gale and ulti dont hit invis units off the top of my head
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
July 01 2013 03:16 GMT
#10048
On July 01 2013 10:50 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 10:49 mizU wrote:
Whoa drow silence works as a dust?


No. If you silence a riki he won't be permanently invisible anymore because his ability is silenced. It will not work with shadowblade for instance.


I meant you can use it as a dust for riki?
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
July 01 2013 03:19 GMT
#10049
what do you mean by that?
Riki's invis is disabled by any silence, so drow/dp's silence will reveal him.
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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8913 Posts
July 01 2013 04:21 GMT
#10050
On July 01 2013 12:16 mizU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 10:50 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On July 01 2013 10:49 mizU wrote:
Whoa drow silence works as a dust?


No. If you silence a riki he won't be permanently invisible anymore because his ability is silenced. It will not work with shadowblade for instance.


I meant you can use it as a dust for riki?

yes. but not for shadowblade
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
July 01 2013 04:26 GMT
#10051
You can use it for PotM's invis and Riki's because they are both based on the WC3 spell Permanent Invisibility.

Brood's webs are also based on Permanent Invis, but due to some strange exceptions her invis doesn't get disabled by silence.
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
July 01 2013 04:27 GMT
#10052
On July 01 2013 12:16 mizU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 10:50 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On July 01 2013 10:49 mizU wrote:
Whoa drow silence works as a dust?


No. If you silence a riki he won't be permanently invisible anymore because his ability is silenced. It will not work with shadowblade for instance.


I meant you can use it as a dust for riki?


It isn't a practical replacement. Silence's duration and radius aren't large enough to fulfill the same purpose. It is a useful thing to know just in case it will be useful though.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
July 01 2013 08:31 GMT
#10053
How do you control the lane if the pull didn't kill all the creepwave ? So let's say that you now have a full creepwave + 1 ranged creep and 2 melee, what do you do ?
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8913 Posts
July 01 2013 08:39 GMT
#10054
cant do anything. your lane is going to get pushed no matter what. you can stack pull and bring it back later though, or if the enemy clears out the wave very fast the lane will even up again
FreeZer
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden288 Posts
July 01 2013 11:16 GMT
#10055
Meepos net does not latch on invisible units which make absolutely no sense to me since it is an AoE..
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TOCHMY
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden1692 Posts
July 01 2013 11:33 GMT
#10056
What are some common solo rosh timings for lycan? Gametime and level
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-01 11:43:25
July 01 2013 11:37 GMT
#10057
Same as Ursa's pretty much. You finish your vlads and maybe brown boots pretty quickly in lane, maybe 7-9 minute mark. (around level 7-8, you want wolves maxed) Doing it from the jungle is a gigantic pain in the ass with lycan and I dont recommend it, you may find that by the time you have your vlads from the jungle that you are underleveled and lack the power to kill rosh.

always make sure you have a ward and a sent at the rosh pit around that timing when your against ursa or lycan to make sure they dont sneak in with smoke.
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LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
July 01 2013 12:00 GMT
#10058
Can Lycan still do rosh with just vlads after the wolf nerf? He was struggling before the patch, and medalion was often gotten for a more reliable and safer rosh.
The only barrier to truth is the presumption that you already have it. It's through our pane (pain) we window (win though).
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
July 01 2013 12:02 GMT
#10059
I think before rosh gets too tough it's still possible but I'm pretty sure if you get it from the jungle it will be too slow.
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34504 Posts
July 01 2013 12:06 GMT
#10060
On July 01 2013 13:26 TheYango wrote:
You can use it for PotM's invis and Riki's because they are both based on the WC3 spell Permanent Invisibility.

Brood's webs are also based on Permanent Invis, but due to some strange exceptions her invis doesn't get disabled by silence.

Are you sure it works for potm? I've never seen it work that way.
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