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xHQx
Profile Joined August 2012
Russian Federation601 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-18 03:28:51
October 18 2012 03:28 GMT
#21
On October 17 2012 02:12 JohnJohnson wrote:
This may be a dumb question, but I didn't see any searched threads pertaining specifically to this.

I'm fairly new, I've got about 70~ hours on DOTA2 now.

The one thing bothering the most is specifically how to lane as a melee character, vs a ranged hero, particularly in mid.

Scenario: I went random, got spectre. All my random team-mates took their top/bottom slots and refused to trade out with me. I end up stuck on mid lane vs Silencer. It's near impossible for me to move away from my tower, as he will harass + use that spell that drains Mana+HP. Consequently, he ended up like 3-4 levels ahead of me, more money, etc.

I tried to get one of my teammates to swap positions with me so I could have a ranged person support me in a lane, but no one would communicate.

So.. is there a specific technique or something I should be doing when I get stuck in a situation as a melee hero vs a ranged, early game, trying to farm up some xp cash? I ended up just getting stomped the rest of the game because I couldn't hardly make any money to buy useful stuff.

stoutshield + 190 on potion+trees first, +5 reg ring before boots
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Doomblaze
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1292 Posts
October 18 2012 06:21 GMT
#22
Youre screwed if the other guy is competent. Most melee heroes dont stand a chance vs ranged, and the only way you will is if you bottle crow/ rune whore and spam your spells for CS with a stout shield/pms first. Try to not let that happen.
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igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
October 18 2012 06:30 GMT
#23
On October 18 2012 12:28 xHQx wrote:
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On October 17 2012 02:12 JohnJohnson wrote:
This may be a dumb question, but I didn't see any searched threads pertaining specifically to this.

I'm fairly new, I've got about 70~ hours on DOTA2 now.

The one thing bothering the most is specifically how to lane as a melee character, vs a ranged hero, particularly in mid.

Scenario: I went random, got spectre. All my random team-mates took their top/bottom slots and refused to trade out with me. I end up stuck on mid lane vs Silencer. It's near impossible for me to move away from my tower, as he will harass + use that spell that drains Mana+HP. Consequently, he ended up like 3-4 levels ahead of me, more money, etc.

I tried to get one of my teammates to swap positions with me so I could have a ranged person support me in a lane, but no one would communicate.

So.. is there a specific technique or something I should be doing when I get stuck in a situation as a melee hero vs a ranged, early game, trying to farm up some xp cash? I ended up just getting stomped the rest of the game because I couldn't hardly make any money to buy useful stuff.

stoutshield + 190 on potion+trees first, +5 reg ring before boots
ezgame


You're not going to farm 875 gold against an orb walker, especially if he fronts your creeps. Diving in to get one creep will mean he'll get at least 3 glaive shots at you, so it's like 200 hp per creep kill. Once he gets boots, he'll just kill you if you get in range.
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-18 06:48:07
October 18 2012 06:47 GMT
#24
It has sort of been mentioned already but i think it's easily missed, especially for new guys! "orb walker" as used above means the hero got a unique attack skill he can level up, prominent examples of heroes with this kind of skill is SILENCER, viper and drow ranger.

The most important part of this skill when it comes to early-game laning is that using them on the enemy hero counts as a spell and therefore does not make the creeps in lane attack you as they would if you used normal right-click attack! so it's especially hard laning with melee heroes against these ones.

spectre would generally be better off(though still losing, spectre is a hero that needs a babysitter to get early farm under most circumstances) against a ranged hero without such a skill.
Meta
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States6225 Posts
October 18 2012 07:22 GMT
#25
On October 18 2012 06:55 prplhz wrote:
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On October 18 2012 04:54 TheWarbler wrote:
If a silencer is mid he should not be leveling COTS. Stats, Glaive is much more powerful.

so your solution is to convince the silencer who is beating him to do another build

i doubt this is effective at all


True, it's not a good response to the OP, but he's right. CotS on solo mid silencer is an extremely short-sighted build.
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theaxis12
Profile Joined March 2011
United States489 Posts
October 18 2012 09:48 GMT
#26
The main thing that a melee character vs. ranged has to think about is creep positioning, the closer to your tower the better and you can even pull the creep wave under your tower. If you are mid you can run up and down the high ground so they don't have vision all the time. Sometimes you just won't be able to safely last hit, then you just need to get xp and have gank support from your team, or if you are mid go gank the side lanes.
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