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On February 10 2020 23:13 NInoff wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2020 23:06 juuto wrote:
Anybody find anything that brings joy to their life that can possibly make up for the absolute depression that Nigma gives them? Dude i will say this one more time just and especially for you. Nigma don't care for anything but TI. That is why they sometimes play weird ( i got to admit this time it is too much) and are losing left right and center.
Unfortunatly, this is not a viable strategy for winning it nor is it something any team would ever aim for.
These players play to win, they play to win on the highest level with the highest competition. They hate to loose.
Thats the competitive mindset.
If you dont have this mindset, you might aswell not even go to TI at all, as you for sure wont win a TI without the absolute will to win.
And at this stage, any Tier 1 team, like Secret, OG, EG etc. only care for TI. Those that won it, because they have enough money those who havnt won it, because well, they have to win it, right?!?
The "Nigma only cares for TI" is honestly not a (viable) argument at all!
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On February 11 2020 01:11 MintberryCrunchs wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2020 23:13 NInoff wrote:On February 10 2020 23:06 juuto wrote:
Anybody find anything that brings joy to their life that can possibly make up for the absolute depression that Nigma gives them? Dude i will say this one more time just and especially for you. Nigma don't care for anything but TI. That is why they sometimes play weird ( i got to admit this time it is too much) and are losing left right and center. Unfortunatly, this is not a viable strategy for winning it nor is it something any team would ever aim for. These players play to win, they play to win on the highest level with the highest competition. They hate to loose. Thats the competitive mindset. If you dont have this mindset, you might aswell not even go to TI at all, as you for sure wont win a TI without the absolute will to win. And at this stage, any Tier 1 team, like Secret, OG, EG etc. only care for TI. Those that won it, because they have enough money those who havnt won it, because well, they have to win it, right?!? The "Nigma only cares for TI" is honestly not a (viable) argument at all!
Well if you care for tournaments different than ti you tryhard on every one and not skip a single one. You can check Nigma and OG schedule for the last two years. Once you win it - you don't really care for anything else. Yeah winning is nice, but since teams of this caliber know they can make it to TI, they are saving strength and motivation for TI. Plus now that we are back to the major patch system twice an year we all know that this is not the patch people are going to play during TI so...
Don't get me wrong - noone wants to lose from bunch of random teams. But if you really want to do well in a qualifier and or major you just scrim a lot and your team plays a lot of random pub games to practice the patch. Just check The 10 people that won TI the last 3 years ranking... ( apart from MATU who actually enjoys dota again) all the rest are either not there, or very low on the board because they dont play enough. Now You can check for example how Nigma players were ranked the year prior TI7.. see the difference.
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It's at a point for me that this team could win another TI and I'd still want there to be multiple kicks or a disband because I know exactly what kind of hellish rollercoaster ride the next year will be again. I'm just tired of this roster constantly being given lifelines when it should've been time for them to start making kicks ages ago.
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So...at least they got their shit together against OG.Seed and have now the pleasure to play against Liquid in the first round for the minor qualifiers.
Hope they can somehow pull through and get some more DPC-points.
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This minor qualis will be harder than the minor itself
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Jesus Nigma is playing so bad again....following a Timber to T2 tower to die in one echo slam, always perfectly together for Taiga to hit two/three man echoes. Whoever is making these bloody calls should get a slap.
And just like that they teamwipe Liquid with a perfectly executed fight. This squad tho...
EDIT: Game was closer than it should have been after being ahead 15k and a rax. Liquid is really having issues to close out games without giving their fans a rollercoaster of a ride.
EDIT2: Beatdown in the second game so far. If you pick Medusa last, give him some sort of save and help securing the lane. Not a fucking Puck which did nothing.
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Tier 2,5 gaming boys!
Time for a typical LB run?
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It really feels like that this Team can only strive when they are facing elimination....an amazing well played game one against Liquid, but Snapfire is really damn strong even as 5, her ult is a perfect counter to MK. Also MC involved in 18 of 27 kills on Slardar and not dying one time. Give MC a game and he will reward your efforts...
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Pity that they did not make it...questionable plays at the end of game five when they have megaed Alliance. Dying like this without buybacks...uff...this loss was Miracles fault. Same in game 4 where he did not go for any BKB on ember and died in every single engagement
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Thank God, honestly, this team deserves to suffer for their poor performances, and it's about time they stopped being given last minute miracle runs to save them. Oh wow, sucking until you get into the lower bracket of a Minor Qualifiers has consequences. I would've been more mad if they didn't get the kick in the ass they deserve.
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Get a mental coach or disband. I cant watch this.
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And the award for the best entertainers go to: NIGMA
But overall i'm glad to see Alliance qualify over them, all of them have been playing much better, great plays to hold that game and tilt nigma.
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I struggle to have much respect for this team after they admitted to not bootcamping before the Minor. Now they can't even qualify for them.
Everyone else is trying their best all season and these guys thought failing to qualify for the second Major from qualifiers was a sign from God that they're too good to bootcamp.
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I dont know what but something happend after Heen left and Kuro put Miracle safe lane.
Ever after they were not the same, strangs drafts, no chemistry, lifeless, stupid plays. Atfer the Matu kick they had a short high but now they are back to the dumpster.
They used to play such a lovely aggressive timing oriented style, now its just some random shit.
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Seems like the TI slump hit the team pretty hard. They're not in sync at all. No tourneys for the next, what, three months?
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I'm glad for them, chilling is the best for now.
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So why they lost game 5? Because there was no team chemistry? No it was a throw - as a new and inexperienced team and palyers will do - you get megas, lose a core then go 4v5 to die with your other carry that has no BB. They were looking for a chance to throw and they found it. Lets be honest here - if they play toactually win there is no way this would happen - they just go back wait for w33 then get map control back and abuse the mobility to pick a player or two until the defence collapses. Like they did countless times.
Unless someone posts the actuall audio of their communication there is noone to convince me they tryharded for this qualifiers ( both major and minor ) . Unfortunateley this means that there is lack of motivation - and that will lead to not enough practice for the patch that actually matters - the next one, and underpreparation for TI.
Whatever - Alliance made it, im still happy 
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25k gold lead and megacreep, I thought it was over and stopped watching. I opened liquidpedia just now and saw that Alliance won. How the fuck, Nigma? XD
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On February 15 2020 05:20 BadAim wrote:
Seems like the TI slump hit the team pretty hard. They're not in sync at all. No tourneys for the next, what, three months?
There is next week a tournament where they are participating with Secret etc.(WeTow or WeTug), after that they will probably rest and (hopefully) make a bootcamp before the next qualifiers.
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Ugh, guys... im still bummed out about yesterdays loss.
There was no reason at all to not pull back after megas.
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