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Rufus Dupres
Profile Joined December 2018
Germany1071 Posts
February 09 2020 21:30 GMT
#121
Yes, seeing now the second game it is so awful disjointed the way they are playing. Minor here we come..hopefully.
"The map is black, but I see everything" - Kuro - MegaFon 2018
MintberryCrunchs
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany462 Posts
February 09 2020 21:34 GMT
#122
Can you play at this level, with players of this caliber and have results and performances like that without it taking a heavy toll on you mental stamina?
I honestly dont think so. This must be so draining for them.
Rufus Dupres
Profile Joined December 2018
Germany1071 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-09 21:43:23
February 09 2020 21:42 GMT
#123
Don't know...second game lost as well. So tomorrow they need a 4:0 to have a shot at the upper bracket, but I can see already Matu giggling and slapping his former team mates out of this qualifiers.

Looks true that he was indeed not the problem.
"The map is black, but I see everything" - Kuro - MegaFon 2018
SFDuality
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1318 Posts
February 09 2020 21:45 GMT
#124
They started with the 2 weakest teams in the group and went 1-3. At this rate they should be lucky to make it to the minor. What a disappointing performance so far.
juuto
Profile Joined January 2014
809 Posts
February 09 2020 21:48 GMT
#125
On February 10 2020 06:42 Rufus Dupres wrote:
Don't know...second game lost as well. So tomorrow they need a 4:0 to have a shot at the upper bracket, but I can see already Matu giggling and slapping his former team mates out of this qualifiers.

Looks true that he was indeed not the problem.


Let's not even entertain the idea that they have a shot at the upper bracket.

They don't and I hope there's no Nigma fan in the world foolish enough to think that they'll make it.
Rufus Dupres
Profile Joined December 2018
Germany1071 Posts
February 09 2020 21:50 GMT
#126
Would be good if they announce beforehand if they take qualifiers seriously and have practiced for it or if it is just for fun, otherwise it is just depressing to see how they play.

Well...tomorrow it can only get better as we have already reached the bottom.
"The map is black, but I see everything" - Kuro - MegaFon 2018
juuto
Profile Joined January 2014
809 Posts
February 09 2020 22:15 GMT
#127
I've avoided saying this for a while now but Nigma needs a sports psychologist and all of them need to be in therapy or something. Everything wrong with them feels like a mental issue and it's been going on for so long with no word on how they're actively trying to actually fix the issue, it's frustrating. The skill is there but most of time, not much else is there. Two breaks in a row have completely failed to refresh the team.

If they don't want to fix their mental problems, the least they could do is disband and do each other a favor.
NInoff
Profile Joined August 2011
Bulgaria1105 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-10 11:02:55
February 10 2020 10:09 GMT
#128
Hvent watched a single game, seems like i didn't miss much. But my guess is that the team will blame it on MC.
juuto
Profile Joined January 2014
809 Posts
February 10 2020 12:21 GMT
#129
Oh wow, just realized in the current format that if Nigma don't make top 2 out of this group, they're out of the Major qualifiers immediately. It's rough times...
Pontual
Profile Joined October 2016
Brazil3038 Posts
February 10 2020 12:55 GMT
#130
Minor is good enough, this way they farm more dpc points
juuto
Profile Joined January 2014
809 Posts
February 10 2020 13:00 GMT
#131
On February 10 2020 21:55 Pontual wrote:
Minor is good enough, this way they farm more dpc points


Well let's hope they're good enough for the Minor.
kerpal
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom2695 Posts
February 10 2020 13:18 GMT
#132
i guess we'll see. nigma recently (actually for quite a while now) seems to be a team that can beat anyone, but also is capable of losing to literally anyone. :/
Rufus Dupres
Profile Joined December 2018
Germany1071 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-10 13:59:51
February 10 2020 13:56 GMT
#133
Matu farming away on Medusa and winning an unfavorable matchup against MK at midlane.

Anybody saying that W33 is the better midlaner gets a big middle finger right into the face when watching this game.

Any initiation is getting whiffed by Snapfire who just cookie out a stunned target from MK and AA ult...

Looking dire again. :/

EDIT: MC having a day off as well. Missing coils and questionable itemization. Why going Travels first on Puck instead of a blink or Veil?
"The map is black, but I see everything" - Kuro - MegaFon 2018
juuto
Profile Joined January 2014
809 Posts
February 10 2020 14:06 GMT
#134
Anybody find anything that brings joy to their life that can possibly make up for the absolute depression that Nigma gives them?
NInoff
Profile Joined August 2011
Bulgaria1105 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-10 14:15:35
February 10 2020 14:13 GMT
#135
On February 10 2020 23:06 juuto wrote:
Anybody find anything that brings joy to their life that can possibly make up for the absolute depression that Nigma gives them?

Dude i will say this one more time just and especially for you. Nigma don't care for anything but TI. That is why they sometimes play weird ( i got to admit this time it is too much) and are losing left right and center. They don't need money, they've won literally everything but second TI. And they are underestimating how people are preparing for the game, and how much opponents are preparing. I am pretty sure that they don't play dota togheter for more than 2-3 scrims / week.
Also noone else thinks about that but runing a org is no joke - thats why Nigma are with 1 foot out of my hearth - trying to do "business" things when you have to play dota... and greeding never leads to success, at least not long term. And Kuro has 0 experience on runing an org. That takes a lot time and energy and you just don't have the juice left in you to actually prepare for dota.
However it is true that they look worse than usual. Maybe this is the end, maybe they will find a way out who knows. But do what i did after TI - just choose a different team that will actually play dota before TI, and when TI comes root for Nigma. The other way around is called mazochism.
juuto
Profile Joined January 2014
809 Posts
February 10 2020 14:24 GMT
#136
I'll start becoming a Secret fan at the Major, I guess. It won't even be hard to choose between Nigma and Secret because only one of them will be there.
kerpal
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom2695 Posts
February 10 2020 15:03 GMT
#137
lol, kuro finding out what it feels like to be matu brooded. :/ rough tourney for nigma.
juuto
Profile Joined January 2014
809 Posts
February 10 2020 15:04 GMT
#138
I really just want them to disband at this point.
sCuMBaG
Profile Joined August 2006
United Kingdom1144 Posts
February 10 2020 16:04 GMT
#139
Is it bad that I'm super fucking happy to see Nigma lose to MATU?

I don't know, but it genuinely fills me with joy

Especially after hearing MATU say that it's good to know he wasn't the problem.
kerpal
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom2695 Posts
February 10 2020 16:06 GMT
#140
i'm super happy to see matu doing well, but it's a shame nigma are struggling so badly.
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