On March 27 2021 17:57 juuto wrote:
Sometimes it's hard to tell how much Nigma cares about their Dota careers. Why is Kuro and RMN playing offlane instead of a standin?

yeah, kky and rmn both did some "crazy" decisions in the games... normally they "play" (rmn!?) pos5. That is the person, that stays in the back and supports (duh...). And then they are "thrown" into pos3 with heroes that want to be in the front of the team. You need quite a different mindset for that!

It is quite short notice... so it is not easy to get a replacement. And also: Who? The only "spontaneous idea" I have is maybe Khezu... don't know if he would have been available...

juuto

809 Posts

March 28 2021 05:41 GMT

#346

I really do not find Pos 5 w33 and Kuro doing his competitive all hero challenge at their first LAN of the DPC season acceptable. It's so disrespectful. Do they not understand how shit it is seeing them perform like this? I don't care if they're eliminated already. They lost 8 games in two days already. Was 7 losses not enough? Could they not have just won a few more games for the sake of it?

[Edit]: And they posted about Kuro's all hero challenge on Twitter too. Fuck that shit. I set my expectations low for this team considering their circumstances, I feel like I'm not asking too much for them to take things seriously so the games are actually enjoyable to watch.

emperorchampion

Canada9496 Posts

March 28 2021 08:28 GMT

#347

Yeah that’s pretty ridiculous, it’s nice to see your team win some games, even if they’re eliminated. All hero challenge is cool and all if you’re winning, kinda lame otherwise. Guess with MC missing they can’t take things seriously.

One thing to note though is that the incentive structure in this major is pretty f'd. Especially for wild card. Need to make top 2 (3 with Na'Vi dropping out). Then need to make upper half of groups or you're facing elimination. If not, need to make it past that game THEN you're in the money.

juuto

809 Posts

April 01 2021 09:45 GMT

#348

Nigma got more money and DPC points than Liquid! I guess that's an accomplishment.

Geisterkarle

Germany3257 Posts

April 01 2021 13:08 GMT

#349

Nigma relocated their HQ to Abu Dhabi!

What region is this?

Sapaio

Denmark2037 Posts

April 02 2021 05:11 GMT

#350

Probably a April fools joke

juuto

809 Posts

April 03 2021 15:20 GMT

#351

I'm scared for Nigma. I really am.

Secret is on a completely different level than them and they only got 4th place at the Major. Every other EU team also got trashed and they didn't have a standin. With the shape Nigma has been in for a long time, I don't see how they'd do well even with their full roster in an international competition.

EU got away with being mediocre for so long because all of them collectively sucked. Now that other regions are coming into play, people can finally realize just how bad these teams are.

juuto

809 Posts

April 07 2021 03:44 GMT

#352

So w33 has been made into an inactive player and honestly, good.

w33 reminds me a lot of the great ol' Matu mid days. The hero pool just isn't good enough. I think w33's a fantastic player full of talent and his hero pool is actually quite large, it's just the heroes in those pool aren't versatile enough. If TA, WR, Meepo, and Visage aren't meta, w33 can't really do anything besides play those "green heroes" people think he's forced to play. He was even given the chance to play carry to see if he could be more versatile and enhance his hero pool but he wasn't good enough at that either. One meta shift and w33's hero pool of viable heroes is very limited in nature. He can't be the win condition or the semi carry like he used to anymore.

The rest of the team still needs to improve on their play, Miracle needs to drastically improve as a carry, but he ended up looking like a very good space making mid on Void Spirit. Versatility is incredibly important in Dota these days which has been an issue for the players in matu/w33's spot. Matu on Secret is fine enough playing carry in the vast majority of his games but Miracle likes to switch between both so if the other player cannot allow him to do that, it's not a good fit for the team. w33 was a good offlaner when they wanted to switch lanes but as a safelane carry? He was pretty damn bad. I wish they could've stayed as 5 but competition is rough and w33 should've done a better job improving his versatility. Even when he's playing well, it just isn't good enough if his hero pool can be severely crippled by patches.

Nigma had a long way to go before they became a top tier team again, a roster change was very much necessary. Now they have find a good replacement and improve their overall play. GH is the only one who looks like a consistent Tier 1 player. Top teams, which Nigma is not, don't have as many "bad days" as the Nigma players do.

Rufus Dupres

Germany1071 Posts

April 07 2021 14:19 GMT

#353

Seems to be logical, W33 seems to have lost his confidence in mid matchups. His influence in the games was dwindling further and further and Kuro was apparently not able to draft in a way which would enable him the most. There have been enough harsh words towards him, he helped to secure a 2nd place at Epicenter and being crucial for their run through the LB at TI.

So...who will be the new mid player trying to reignite Nigma? Sumail? Mage? Any other free agent which I am missing or will we see a swap in roles and Miracle is going back to mid with a new promising carry player? Considering that the qualifiers are around the corner and MidOne was playing with a stack at open qualifiers in SEA, I doubt that he will be the one to join Nigma but who knows. If iceiceice is of the opinion that Nigma will be stronger than before, the stakes and expectations are pretty high but except of GH who performed nearly in every game on a top level and sometimes Miracle, all of them have to improve. At least I am seeing MC playing a lot of pubs, guess same is the best way to get back into shape.

derElbe

Germany571 Posts

April 08 2021 05:33 GMT

#354

I think it could be someone, who is not a free agent!
Let me hear your thoughts, who would be best in slot for the team?

Rufus Dupres

Germany1071 Posts

April 08 2021 07:30 GMT

#355

Teams could remove players only till last Tuesday, so basically anybody who has not been removed from the Roster is locked in for the next season. Actually same does limit the options to players only who have not been assigned so far to a Team like Sumail, Mage or MidOne(not assigned to a squad although playing the opens currently) as a midlaner or if they want to put Miracle back mid, there may be the option of picking up iltw. Latest on Sunday we will have the answer who will be the new scapegoat in case they are underperforming. :p

its_a_me

Austria612 Posts

April 08 2021 09:05 GMT

#356

So Kuro plays blame the midlaner again, how convenient from him. As if only w33 is at fault for their shitty performance.
I mean most of the time their teamplay, drafting and mentality is a mess, but if the stars align, they can beat anyone. (TI 2019 2nd or the reverse sweep against Secret)
And now looks like Kuros least valued player is the scapegoat again, this is the reason i stop rooting for them

This is the second time someone gets fucked by Kuro (Matu got kicked after they qualify and w33 after the season starts) im so done with this guy.

xM(Z

Romania5296 Posts

April 08 2021 16:54 GMT

#357

i want to see w33 in OG; don't know why, for the 'what would happen if ...' probably.

derElbe

Germany571 Posts

April 10 2021 11:02 GMT

#358

anyone checking every minute if there are some news?

Geisterkarle

Germany3257 Posts

April 10 2021 17:10 GMT

#359

On April 10 2021 20:02 derElbe wrote:
anyone checking every minute if there are some news?

I didn't check every minute, but got lucky and it is just 10min ago:

Fleetfeet

Canada2611 Posts

April 10 2021 19:17 GMT

#360

This seems like a mistake. W33 wasn't the reason we're losing and actually seemed to have some fire some of these days. Better to set one of the older, dispassioned players free imo.