EPTOG Discussion - Page 53
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Pontual
Brazil3038 Posts
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Aldehyde
Sweden939 Posts
I'm not, however, seeing this horrid mess that you'd assume they are if you read a lot of the posts in this thread. -Adding on- On May 18 2018 03:28 wims80 wrote: I think these rapid patches are hurting OG more than the top teams. They dont seem quite as flexible as some of the other teams like Liquid, Secret, VP etc I'd agree with this. In fact, I think the constant flow of patches is a detriment to the game on pretty much all levels. For spectators, only the most committed have a chance of knowing what's up. For competitors, there's no chance of actually perfecting a patch. There was never much chance of that in Dota to begin with but it's worse than ever. Which in turn gives us spectators less polished Dota to watch and, to me, that's just not as interesting. | ||
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nanaoei
3358 Posts
to me this was one of the cruxes of OG play. take roshan with teamfight heroes, make unlikely ganks work, and slow push to death which they are masters of. however, teams have gotten much more knowledgeable. teams are shoving lanes and hitting great item timings with aura heroes and aura items to control when this roshan (also buffed) stuff can occur. | ||
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NInoff
Bulgaria1105 Posts
On May 18 2018 05:20 nanaoei wrote: OG's rosh timings are some of the worst for tier 1 teams. Sorry but OG are not even close to Tier 1 teams. Just some glimpses from G1 vs Newbee - Brew Mid to get you some kills with splits to 20 mins then what? He does that with no fram in the offlane. - DK Offlane to have no impact on the game other than a stun. - Spectre with weak lane, with once chance to get radiance, farm, stay relevent and get some kills, Seb instead goes for Blademail + Yasha first. Even buys back in the last minutes with nothing to help his team ( no farm, no radiance, no haunt). this makes him a big creep with blademail, and dies again. Because of all that post 15-20 mins they managed to kill a SK and a Warlock twice. While getting teamwiped after using all their ulties at least 3 times. Jerax played well, created some space, but he is just a clock with no folloup.. No plan, no communication - example of that - S4 goes in with BKB ( around Radiance t2 mid), on 3 heroes stuns his target.... 4 seconds later, he is on 20%hp, and Seb haunts in?! Then they die. And thats vs Newbee, that are not on their prime.. Its painful man... | ||
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nanaoei
3358 Posts
slark has 2/3 items towards a bkb, manages to die during a fight or key components of his team does, they lose tower mid, and by this point they have a major item--probably radiance, plus very close to the health talent on spectre--to plow through the main BKB fight. you underestimate losing a hero for a solid couple minutes and what it does to the choices you have to make. fighting mid was a hail mary attempt at out-teamfighting when they are weaker and they are met with good execution by a great teamfight team. the best team in the world is occasionally going to make a silly unforced mistake similar to what OG did that game. they are still tier 1 occasionally, so wait until the series is over to shovel it in. | ||
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NInoff
Bulgaria1105 Posts
Unfortunatelly the reallity says otherwise... | ||
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wims80
1892 Posts
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Sapaio
Denmark2037 Posts
Think Notail actually played very well today and was the top farmer before the team fall off. But again team draft and strategy seem off, it's nice N0tail is top farm but not really on a Brew. Don't really like Seb performance today, but think bigger problem is not having coach. And at this point going back is maybe not a good choice, as coach player boundaries can be broken already. | ||
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ieltsband020
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emperorchampion
Canada9496 Posts
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its_a_me
Austria612 Posts
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Gamble28
Germany107 Posts
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
On May 29 2018 02:14 emperorchampion wrote: Now the question will be who goes to OG? I saw someone mention misery and khezzu, seems possible That would make sense, and that stack could probably get through the European qualifier. | ||
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the bear jew
United States3674 Posts
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lasl
Romania21 Posts
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Aldehyde
Sweden939 Posts
That sucks. I guess I'll go look for a new team to root for? Meh. | ||
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NInoff
Bulgaria1105 Posts
So now they have the old OG but with new mid and carry players. Yes, RTZ and Sumail are better mechanical players,than old teamates, but i am pretty sure, they are not even close to the teamataes / people that Miracle/Ana/N0tail were. Maybe this is for the best, Notail can try captaining, he has what it takes, then some fresh blood, and this team can work. | ||
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Sapaio
Denmark2037 Posts
Think N0tail should use the opportunity of S4 leaving to go to pos 3, maybe sometimes other if on micro hero carry. | ||
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Minishield
Italy145 Posts
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