That was surprising OG looking better than with Fly and S4.
Even draft better without Fly. Does anybody know who does the drafting now N0tail or Mad?
Topson looks so good at Invoker and Ana on Ember seems to be the main hero.
N0tail stepping up after poor regionals is good to see.

DropBear

Australia4353 Posts

June 23 2018 14:58 GMT

#1083

7-0 in group stage of Europe Qualifiers. All games bar Kinguin under 35 minutes. Looking pretty strong :D

NInoff

Bulgaria1105 Posts

June 23 2018 15:47 GMT

#1084

N0tail finally decided to use his real potential. He played with some pretty good drafters, he is a smart guy, i'm pretty sure that he learned a lot from them - and that shows it. 7 games with pretty solid draft & plan. That will win you most of the games. Yeah, no real competition here, but still compared to how Fly and s4 are doing with "stronger" carroes, its pretty impressive. OG really deserve to play in TI. GL to them.

LemOn

United Kingdom8629 Posts

June 24 2018 15:48 GMT

#1085

AAnd he made a huge omission and got huskar'd
still has a lot to learn

emperorchampion

Canada9496 Posts

June 24 2018 16:00 GMT

#1086

Sometimes huskar happens :p

LemOn

United Kingdom8629 Posts

June 24 2018 17:52 GMT

#1087

Wow
Ana voted MvP
but I had his 1st player perspective
And any player would be a superstar
Thet 2-4stack ancients, ce6 damages em with axes
And ana comes in to just get last hits
Over and over again

He actually messed up, missing CS, dive wrong time, didn't go with the team when they pushed rax, WITH AEGIS (lol)
But OG are the best enablers ever, even losing fly didn't harm them,
And they finally have someone to enable

I think this is a strong top8 TI contender

Sapaio

Denmark2037 Posts

June 24 2018 18:00 GMT

#1088

Really like Topson addition feel he suits them. Good at creating chaos around them map. Think he has super skills, would like to see if he can handle more boring heroes when needed, hope they try in a BO5 tomorrow.

More surprised that the loss of S4 haven't effected them more, but Ceb heroes in offlane seem to suit them. Like they switched the flashy heroes to mid and more utility to offlane.
Don't know if that is reason for better drafts in general or N0tail is doing better.

nVme

952 Posts

June 24 2018 18:04 GMT

#1089

On June 25 2018 03:00 Sapaio wrote:
Really like Topson addition feel he suits them. Good at creating chaos around them map. Think he has super skills, would like to see if he can handle more boring heroes when needed, hope they try in a BO5 tomorrow.

More surprised that the loss of S4 haven't effected them more, but Ceb heroes in offlane seem to suit them. Like they switched the flashy heroes to mid and more utility to offlane.
Don't know if that is reason for better drafts in general or N0tail is doing better.

well the main thing is ana can actually carry lol

NInoff

Bulgaria1105 Posts

June 25 2018 20:54 GMT

#1090

Congrats to OG, well deserved.

P.S. Im in love to that Skywrath Mid, especially combined with oracle,this is rediculous.

korendir

Singapore259 Posts

June 25 2018 23:56 GMT

#1091

Really impressed with Topson's play this entire run, looking real good with the lineup change!

DucK-

Singapore11447 Posts

June 26 2018 01:32 GMT

#1092

Well finally an OG that looks fun. Ana is a beast of a carry though

goody153

44121 Posts

June 26 2018 04:33 GMT

#1093

Ana looks really good as a 1 position and Topson fits the role role very well too. I don't exactly have high faith that they'll do well in TI8 but i hope at least Ana/Topson sticks together.

Gamble28

Germany107 Posts

June 26 2018 04:35 GMT

#1094

Ana was a beast in his first run with OG too, i guess there was some shit going on between him and S4 and/or Fly. I dont think He would have come back after they kicked him without some hidden Drama involving them.

And Thomson is such a funny mid, remembers me of the early Miracle days. Just crushing the midlane most of the time even in matchups with a disadvantage like the pugna vs TA game.

Sapaio

Denmark2037 Posts

June 26 2018 06:30 GMT

#1095

This OG seem so much more aggressive then under Fly.
Don't know if Ana had beef with Fly or S4 and that's why he came back, or they just realized that he liked playing in OG and could preform best in environment with people like Ceb and N0tail. Sometimes you have to leave something to see how much you really liked it.

It's Topson not Thomson hehe, but really think he brings much skill and some energy.

N0tail improved so much from the open qual to the regional qual really impressed by the leap in preformance by him, maybe this is his spot.

Minishield

Italy145 Posts

June 26 2018 12:10 GMT

#1096

I really enjoyed their playstyle this qualifiers, i dont know how well the can do vs better teams, but i think they are in a better position than the Fly, S4 OG, and they were not doing good, but sometimes they put up a fight even vs Liquid, VP or LGD. Also they have some time to get better.

My only concern is that Topson hero pool seems really limited, and he doesn't play a lot of the "hard carry" mid like TA, SF or even Tinker. I hope he can play those type of heroes too cause right now i feel like for TI8 his hero pool isn't enough.

Sapaio

Denmark2037 Posts

June 26 2018 12:33 GMT

#1097

Don't know if this will make you feel better, but Topson is know for one hard carry mid Arc Warden. Also has MK that can be one of fastest farming heroes.

Personally i am more concerned about Ana, he is the hard carry and played Ember and then a little PL.

MirageTaN

Singapore871 Posts

June 27 2018 08:31 GMT

#1098

Ana's hero pool is more than enough for any opponent to be worried. He has ember, PL, Storm, Alchemist and Troll under his reputation and that was when he was mid a couple months ago, no doubt this break he will use it to shore up his Carry pool significantly.

Topson also provides alot of attention in the draft by being a relative newcomer. 7mad's hero pool is also looking quite strong.

I think despite the roster shuffle so late into the season, OG might place higher than EG considering EG looks inconsistent still with a lot of reliance on individual skill while OG looks more dominant with an emphasis on teamplay and macrogame economy

sCuMBaG

United Kingdom1144 Posts

June 27 2018 09:19 GMT

#1099

I'm just glad to see a team, that actually seems to warrant a first phase invoker ban

as an invo spammer - it's always great to see some new stuff coming up, and I've been having some fun with his urn wex build myself.

Minishield

Italy145 Posts

August 16 2018 12:07 GMT

#1100

Just some shower thoughts.

I have mixed feeling about this day 1, and that's because they put up a fight vs Liquid that i didn't expect. I expected a 2-0 loss but a lot more stompy. And because of that i stared hoping they could win (especially game 1) and they didn't. Also they didn't win for some really questionable individual plays by Ana and Topson that could have been avoided.

I can excuse Topson, i feel like he didnt play bad, he just has to adapt to this level of competition, this is not only his firts TI, but also his first big LAN event. He's playing too overaggressive and overconfident, knd of pub style, and you can't do that vs teams like Liquid.

I can't excuse Ana, both his games vs Liquid were bad, especially on MK he made too many errors, yea he recovered, but even in late game some key errors by him cost OG the game.

Ceb, NoTail and Jerax instead played all really well, especially Ceb and NoTail made some great plays overall. (Also Jerax Tusk still a beast, little less impressed by his Shaker)