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nothingmuch
Profile Joined March 2015
448 Posts
August 10 2017 08:28 GMT
#781
On August 07 2017 23:17 MonkeyLarry wrote:
This is a genuine question, but do you guys think they could still do it with a different squad. Like obviously they're just as resilient with their current lineup, hungry for this, and they have the skill with each very talented in their respective roles, but that was a different team. This is a genuine question looking for genuine opinions.


There's no point. Even if you completely ignore this years TI they're still the team that won 4 of the 5 majors. Who could you possibly replace? Fly and Notail have proven to be the heart of the team by rebuilding after losing arguably the best players on their respective positions and keep on winning, S4 is a legendary clutch player with a huge pool of experience, Jerax is probably the number 1 pos4 in the west and Ana has proven himself over the last year as one of the best mid players (particularly come mid/late game). Certainly you could make up some fantasy drafts where e.g. Miracle shows up and wants to play for OG again- but lets be serious, there's no real upgrades out there and even if there was there is no way any upgrade could be big enough to make up for all that time/experiences building team chemistry.
The only thing that could break up the team is interpersonal issues and even going back to the HoN days the guys have done really well at avoiding drama.
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11446 Posts
August 10 2017 12:45 GMT
#782
What's Ana's ethnicity? Understand that his mom is from Shanghai. Pham sounds Vietnamese. Viet/Chinese?
yotsuna
Profile Joined June 2011
Hong Kong186 Posts
August 10 2017 16:14 GMT
#783
On August 10 2017 21:45 DucK- wrote:
What's Ana's ethnicity? Understand that his mom is from Shanghai. Pham sounds Vietnamese. Viet/Chinese?

His dad is Vietnamese
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
August 10 2017 20:49 GMT
#784
Sad to say
but Ana N0tail choking again
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Dison92
Profile Joined September 2011
Denmark142 Posts
August 10 2017 22:04 GMT
#785
Well, that was extremely dissapointing
lookfirewood
Profile Joined May 2011
1212 Posts
August 10 2017 23:09 GMT
#786
Seems like another year of China TI!
R.I.P STX 03.08.2013 never forget.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-11 00:49:18
August 11 2017 00:48 GMT
#787
*wrong thread, sry*
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saddaromma
Profile Joined April 2013
1129 Posts
August 11 2017 04:37 GMT
#788
sad to see OG out.

Better learn more heroes on key players or get outdrafted by strong teams.
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11446 Posts
August 11 2017 05:08 GMT
#789
OG never once look prepared this tournament. Always felt like they needed cheese to win
its_a_me
Profile Joined June 2016
Austria612 Posts
August 11 2017 07:00 GMT
#790
Is hard if you play well the hole year and then you play still gets crushed right before TI.
They are currently so off meta and worse even get countered by the meta.

This shadow side of all the patches and the major/TI system.
nothingmuch
Profile Joined March 2015
448 Posts
August 11 2017 07:37 GMT
#791
On August 11 2017 13:37 saddaromma wrote:
sad to see OG out.

Better learn more heroes on key players or get outdrafted by strong teams.


FYI Notail holds the record of most heroes played in pro matches.
lookfirewood
Profile Joined May 2011
1212 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-11 09:13:31
August 11 2017 08:09 GMT
#792
On August 11 2017 16:37 nothingmuch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2017 13:37 saddaromma wrote:
sad to see OG out.

Better learn more heroes on key players or get outdrafted by strong teams.


FYI Notail holds the record of most heroes played in pro matches.


I actually feel all cores played quite a variety of heroes this tournament. Some picks didn't play out as they wanted but can't complain about the number of picks for anyone actually. Maybe S4 played alittle too much bat/cent/brew, I dunno, but he also played enigma, shaker and slardar. I cant say that's too predictable.
R.I.P STX 03.08.2013 never forget.
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
August 11 2017 12:31 GMT
#793
When it mattered though, both N0tail and Ana choked with uncharacteristic mishaps
TI is in N0tail's head man
And Ana is emo naturally, when Fly/Notail don't keep it together N0tail won't either.
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
August 11 2017 12:35 GMT
#794
you could see it when S4 in G1 jumps 3, the guys wipe the floor with LGD
Force 2 buybacks
But instead of going back N0tail gets way too overzealous gets in again and pretty much make em lose the game.
That game they got outdrafted with the Offlane switch from Bat to Bristle
But with superb execution and patience still had a chance.
Last game Fly fucked up 90% ultimates, Ana did stupid stuff like TP right into middle of LGD and instadie and N0tail was again pressing too hard
Where OG is usually known for awesome patience.


If I were them I stick together
and just keep trying, hire a psychologist or some shit before TI
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
August 11 2017 17:31 GMT
#795
Game 1 was really fun. LGD had to play aggressive but respect the OG RPs. But whenever RP was down, you could see LGD DGAF charge.

I wasn't too sure if OG was playing around RPs though. OG definitely derped away in the last 4 minutes of the game. They had no business getting caught outside without notail and without RP.
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Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
August 11 2017 18:06 GMT
#796
Very sad they couldn't do it... imho Fly/Notail will never win a TI, they're too emotional, i think Ana, Jerax and s4 should try build a new team to win it...
The Real Power~
Minishield
Profile Joined October 2016
Italy145 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-11 19:20:25
August 11 2017 18:20 GMT
#797
As an OG fan i thought we could get Top 3 at best this time, so i'm not surprised, but going out like this is really upsetting, not just cause the team didn't play at his peak, but also cause the bad decisions and fails the team made were so clear even to an ultra-casual player that i can't accept it. Notail decision making was so bad all series (except for the early game of G2), and Ana made some errors that i see at 3k mmr (like the random tp suicide). And i'm pretty sad for S4 and Jerax since i think they deserved better this TI, especially S4 tried almost anything to win G1 with insane rps and Notail just overextending or casually try to solo Rosh with PL just to die 30 second after.

It's really the first time i feel that a game was lost due to poor performance of single players and not of all the team. And i'm an OG fan cause i'm a Notail fan, maybe that's why i'm so upset XD

P.S. i'm also really curious if that "weird" omnislashes were a Notail call or a team call (like the one near the Rosh Pit that bounced on every LGD player doing almost no dmg)
Pontual
Profile Joined October 2016
Brazil3038 Posts
August 11 2017 18:33 GMT
#798
To be honest OG wasn't that strong after Kiev, imo OG's run was actually as expected, seeing their power level. S4 is a god amongst players tho.
Mc justine
Profile Joined August 2017
2 Posts
August 12 2017 19:00 GMT
#799
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Dison92
Profile Joined September 2011
Denmark142 Posts
August 17 2017 21:49 GMT
#800
Now that Ana is out, then who do you guys think OG will pick up?
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