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On May 04 2016 11:44 uriel- wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2016 10:17 CxWiLL wrote:On May 04 2016 01:56 Kamisamanachi wrote:On May 04 2016 01:09 Thetwinmasters wrote:
burning and rotk are such useless players Yes, bad thing BurNing cant manfight enemy team at 30 mins with lich. That could have compensated for bad shotcalling in their lost game, am I right? As much as I hate commenting on these random BurNing hate comments nowadays, I think he played pretty decent at the most as a support for them till now. His venge and lion have been pretty solid in most of their games. I don't think their losses today were dependant on individual performances , it was dependant on retarded shot calling mid game whoever that was..atleast 3 out of 4 games they lost , they won early game and then threw away their whole advantage with 1 fight.. If anything ,rotk should give up becoming captain for this team and give everything to cty..he isn't the type of captain he used to be anymore. There isn't seem to be a clear voice in the team which they need . idk if they disband or not, but they can atleast try to change leadership or shot calling I actually don't know who else can do the shot calling for this team. Burning and Sylar are not vocal person in games. Cty is famous for his retard decision mid game, and Rotk is bad.Maybe they should let the rookie to captain them? damn, I cannot even remember his ID. I think you found the root cause of their issues
+1
I tought they kept Rotk because they needed someone to draft and call shots... Im not trying to flame Rotk, but would they keep him for his plays on the offlane?? I dont get that...
Edit: Just for the record, I am not saying I think Rotk is a good shot caller, I actually dont got enough intel to say much about it, I just dont think his offlane play has been very inspiring and stable for the last year.
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CTY is better now on the late gaming; the decisions to farm or to fight is terrible.
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On May 04 2016 20:21 TanGeng wrote:
CTY is better now on the late gaming; the decisions to farm or to fight is terrible.
Yea, he has improved soo much from his status of 6 minutes god.his mid game plays have also improved a ton , but one thing is for sure. his aggressive plays sometimes backfires at him , but thats just due to the nature of the player he is..
as u said, he needs to work on his decision to farm or fight more. i wish they just give calling in game shots to cty.. let rotk be the drafter and let cty call the shots..he already knows how to control the tempo of the game.
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Even though their results are still shaky, the old VG is on a completely next level of dota these day.
They switch roles like crazy. Everyone of them is switching role from game to game, depends on the heroes they picked.
No fuck is give to the 1-5 position system, they picked super greedy lineups and the one that finds farm became the core.
You will never know how they plan their roles and who is playing it, even after you see through the entire b/p phase.
In a most recent game, they pick Timber, naix, bat, enigma and disruptor, which sound like a normal draft,
But it is actually a #1 Rotk Timber, #2 Hym Bat, #3 Cty naix, #4 Sylar enigma and #5 Burning disruptor
Considering they are doing alright these days.
I really hope they can make their way through the qualifiers and bring this awesomeness TI.
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that sounds mental haha
any vods you can link?
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On June 15 2016 01:26 LemOn wrote:
that sounds mental haha
any vods you can link?
it was a H-cup game i believe
I randomly bumped in to that live stream,
Edit: So many online tournaments in the Chinese scene these days. and I can't find the vods either.
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It was an H-cup game. i saw that as well against a rather unknown team.
i think it was an opportunity to mess around a bit.
sylar still typically plays carry in officials, but in this game he was an enigma, looking like he came from jungle.
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so how is the senior vg team doing in the scene right now? havent really heard from them in a while since apparently vg r is really overshadowing them in tournaments.
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On June 15 2016 01:33 CxWiLL wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2016 01:26 LemOn wrote:
that sounds mental haha
any vods you can link? it was a H-cup game i believe I randomly bumped in to that live stream, Edit: So many online tournaments in the Chinese scene these days. and I can't find the vods either.
Kinda gives hope for the Chinese Scene for TI6 actually!
It almost seems the roles have reversed and the top Western teams play way less smaller online tournaments + qualifiers and China is getting a lot more practice. Newbee is already pretty much on par with Liquid/OG after a few tweaks and there's a lot of up and comers while teams like EG and Secret are getting shat on with their direct invite, high travel + low competitive practice schedules.
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On June 15 2016 01:18 CxWiLL wrote:
Even though their results are still shaky, the old VG is on a completely next level of dota these day.
They switch roles like crazy. Everyone of them is switching role from game to game, depends on the heroes they picked.
No fuck is give to the 1-5 position system, they picked super greedy lineups and the one that finds farm became the core.
You will never know how they plan their roles and who is playing it, even after you see through the entire b/p phase.
In a most recent game, they pick Timber, naix, bat, enigma and disruptor, which sound like a normal draft,
But it is actually a #1 Rotk Timber, #2 Hym Bat, #3 Cty naix, #4 Sylar enigma and #5 Burning disruptor
Considering they are doing alright these days.
I really hope they can make their way through the qualifiers and bring this awesomeness TI.
i think h cup is just a chance for these teams to practice whatever they like as noone gonna play serious and pick their important strats with qualifier a week away,, but that game in particular was really funny and they almost won with those heroes too.. right now, it feels like the effect of their support duo playing lots of pubs together is showing as they seem more cohesive and intact during games. it's just that they need to work on their decisions.
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VG.R took the first spot
But heartbreakingly knocked out Burning and co. from the qualifier, farewell sweet prince
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Xyclops on VG:
Rotk retired and Sylar will take a break until after TI6. Cty might be on a break, not clear at the moment.
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On June 30 2016 18:16 maze. wrote:
Xyclops on VG:
Rotk retired and Sylar will take a break until after TI6. Cty might be on a break, not clear at the moment.
I wonder what Burning will do. It's sad, VG classic showed a lot of improvement. But I can understand after such a crushing loss some need to step away for a bit.
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On June 30 2016 19:54 the bear jew wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2016 18:16 maze. wrote:
Xyclops on VG:
Rotk retired and Sylar will take a break until after TI6. Cty might be on a break, not clear at the moment. I wonder what Burning will do. It's sad, VG classic showed a lot of improvement. But I can understand after such a crushing loss some need to step away for a bit.
They are playing with ayo and jixing from vg.p in nanyang atm. Cty was just missing for the first game.
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New VG.J lineup (rumored from their fan club which knows many things internal)
Sylar, CTY, FY,Fenrir, rotk
it's basically VG's TI4 lineup+CTY
no news on changes in VG
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On December 25 2016 21:26 Kamisamanachi wrote:
New VG.J lineup (rumored from their fan club which knows many things internal)
Sylar, CTY, FY,Fenrir, rotk
it's basically VG's TI4 lineup+CTY
no news on changes in VG
Didn't sylar and rotk have some argument then? About mistakes or something?
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On December 25 2016 23:18 DucK- wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2016 21:26 Kamisamanachi wrote:
New VG.J lineup (rumored from their fan club which knows many things internal)
Sylar, CTY, FY,Fenrir, rotk
it's basically VG's TI4 lineup+CTY
no news on changes in VG
Didn't sylar and rotk have some argument then? About mistakes or something?
Sylar and rotk were flaming each other on their streams, but nothing too serious. Wonder where hym is going? He was the next big thing in the support role.
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On December 26 2016 01:06 maze. wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2016 23:18 DucK- wrote:On December 25 2016 21:26 Kamisamanachi wrote:
New VG.J lineup (rumored from their fan club which knows many things internal)
Sylar, CTY, FY,Fenrir, rotk
it's basically VG's TI4 lineup+CTY
no news on changes in VG
Didn't sylar and rotk have some argument then? About mistakes or something? Sylar and rotk were flaming each other on their streams, but nothing too serious. Wonder where hym is going? He was the next big thing in the support role.
most probably promoted to main VG squad
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That lineup would be like 10 times better with end over sylar
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